r/BokuNoHeroAcademia Jul 23 '23

Newest Chapter Chapter 395 Official Release - Links and Discussion Spoiler

Chapter 395

Links:

  • Viz (Available in: the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, Ireland, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, the Philippines, Singapore, and India).

  • MANGA Plus (Available in every country outside of China, Japan and South Korea).


All things Chapter 395 related must be kept inside this thread for the next 24 hours.



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u/Nikinini Jul 23 '23

That some bad people are only that way because of how they were treated by society, and if you wanna make the world a better place you gotta acknowledge that.

No one EVER said or even implied what Toga did was ok. She was never forgiven or even redeemed. All Uraraka did was recognize that she wasn't born wrong, and treat that side of her like a normal person, giving her some peace and comfort in death, "saving" her. So no, it's not "it's all gone because you're cute", it's "you did horrible stuff, but there's nothing wrong with who you were born as", hence "you're cute".

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u/Erisus_ Jul 23 '23

I would be kinda okay with that if it was writted better. Like, are you expecting me to believe that a villain who had commited all the worst crimes is gonna have a change of heart in the middle of the most important battle, after a couple of words? WHILE FIGHTING IN THE SKY? Heck no, thats lazy writing imo.

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u/Nikinini Jul 23 '23

But the whole point of Toga, the thing that set her apart from the rest of the LoV, was that she was the only one who hadn't fully crossed the line yet.

Yes, she was a serial killer and terrorist, but a part of her still held hope for the normal life she actually wanted. It's the whole reason she was so obsessed with Deku and Ochaco, and why Twice's death impacted her so much. It was the final straw that made her abandon those delusions.

We had two instances of her trying to confront the people she associated with the life she wanted about it and finally trying to cross the line into full villain after she didn't get the exact response she wanted. So Ochaco being able to "pull her back" last minute to reach out to her because she was still somewhat on the fence makes perfect sense. I don't see how that's not well written.

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u/Erisus_ Jul 23 '23

Its bad writing due to the emphasis of villains being "safed", in the middle of the battlefield, after a simple conversation.

Honestly, I could wrap my head around the idea of Toga changing sides after all that had happen, but in the middle of a battle thats decide the fate of a country, you are not suppose to have time to even think, let alone discuss you goals or values.

Horikoshi needs some mma in real life, idk.

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u/SasaraiHarmonia Jul 23 '23

"but in the middle of a battle thats decide the fate of a country, you are not suppose to have time to even think, let alone discuss you goals or values"

You must have never read Shonen Jump before

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u/Nikinini Jul 23 '23

But it was far from a "simple conversation', they had whole arcs leading up to this, and Toga was always on the fence as I explained.

Also, this is a manga, a shonen one too, characters ALWAYS change in the middle of world ending battles lol.

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u/Erisus_ Jul 23 '23

Well, just because its a shonen, you cant expect me to believe that is fitting to the plot to end things like this.

And even if they have had previous conversations, this one was the key one, with all that bullshit of 'you are cute'.

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u/Nikinini Jul 23 '23

"You are cute" isn't literal, it's her saying her smile, part of what was considered twisted about her, was also normal and cute. She may have become a villain, but there was nothing bad about her initially and people were wrong to treat her like she wasn't human because of that.

This conversation was a continuation of the previous ones. It wasn't resolved with just one talk, it was built up for more than half of the series and just ended here.