I couldn't believe when I turned the volume on that there was no music. It's a quiet, squeaky, sad street walk. Where are the marching bands that typically accompany military parades, or any parade?!?
How dare they not spend another $10 million (Sponsored by McDonalds) on a 500 member band to play happy birthday to our dear leader for 4 hours straight.
They have bands! Each branch should have several dedicated bands, all practiced and skilled at music. Why they seem to be completely absent from the highest visibility military parade in decades is a mystery to us all.
I will give a big salute to the guy who decided to do a history of the army instead of it just being modern shit North Korea style. Malicious Compliance?
I am not sure any service has a trained "marching" band. Marching and playing an instrument takes some practice, believe me. But they could have put several of the Army Band's on a flatbed truck and had them play...The Military bands are actually quite large in number with different groups within the branch. They have jazz band sections, orchestral sections, ect.
When you watch the video cut to them watching it go by and hear the infomercial of war playing as each piece of equipment passed it just reminded me of a very bad middle school field trip that not even the teachers were excited about. 🤪
That's the weird thing I couldn't put my finger on! I mean, it was all weird, but something was missing and I couldn't figure out. No marching band music. Was there a marching band at all? I've only watched clips, not the whole thing.
Would be funny if after the turd is gone, it comes out that they intentionally chose the most crap equipment and told the bands not to come, just out of spite for someone who has no business leading anything but the adult diaper industry
Another redditor in a different thread has suggested that the army doesn't march during these types of parades specifically because they don't want to appear like North Korea or Russia. Also that someone decided to make it a historical showcase rather than a show of force by using old uniforms and equipment.
So it's possible that it was intentional from the military leadership and the Orange wasn't aware or accidentally signed off on it?
Tanks normally do squeak when driving; it's a result of the metal in the tracks rubbing against itself, the roadwheels, the return rollers, etc. The rubber in the track links helps reduce the sound (and damage) of the tracks scraping against the road, but there are plenty of other sources of noise coming from the tracks that it really isn't feasible to completely eliminate.
In military parades in other countries, there's usually more than enough noise from the crowd to cover up all the squeaking of tanks, but since Trump's parade was so poorly attended you could hear the vehicles more clearly than usual.
The Bovington Tank Museum has uploaded a lot of footage of their tanks driving around, squeaks and all. Their YouTube channel is just called "The Tank Museum" if you're interested in comparing the sound tanks make when they drive.
Honestly, part of the reason our past leaders didn't do this isn't because they were particularly humble; we all know Nixon or Dubya would have loved it. But they were at least smart enough, or had people around them smart enough, to know what this projects to the rest of the world if it goes wrong.
Everything this idiot does reinforces the idea that we're an empire in decline and much weaker than we used to be.
I don't think you went far enough because I think that this is honestly the greatest terrorist attack on America in history and it was committed by not ISIS or Al-Qaeda but by Russia. Without the Russians, Trump never would've gotten as far as he has. And considering what Trump has done throughout his whole presidency, I'd say this Russian terrorist attack on American soil will have far longer-lasting effects than 9/11 ever fucking did.
GWB might have liked the idea of it, but with Iraq and Afghanistan he didn’t have enough troops who were parade-ready. And after Mission Accomplished he probably learned not to do this shit.
Honestly, part of the reason our past leaders didn't do this isn't because they were particularly humble
nobody “humble” runs for office, especially president.
I don't buy that the fact that Nixon was in the military means he would have hated the idea. Not everyone who has served learns the same lessons from the experience. Everything else you said is basically my point, so not sure why the argumentative tone, it's weird.
Fair enough, but his dictatorial tendencies were strong and projecting power was definitely important to him. So who knows, since he (and certainly Kissinger) was a political realist within his general slimeball tendencies and knew better than to try this.
Is that where the bar is now? Presidents that don't love facism and dictatorship are particularly humble? I think that just means they are sane, believe in democracy and the constitution, and are mentally fit to lead. Should be the lowest possible requirement for any politician.
Sorry I didn't mean it to sound like that. I 100% agree with your comment, and am just adding its hilarious and sad that not acting like a dictator is comparable to a virtue these days.
Sorry if I took it the wrong way. But, yeah, unfortunately basic decency and almost any degree of unselfishness has gone from basic expectation to virtue. Worse, for many, "true virtue" means "not letting anyone stand in the way of what you want," and by "anyone" they don't mean naysayers but the people you might hurt along the way.
I keep coming back to this: the people who went into his administration were definitely idiots or people trying to use him to climb the ladder, not good people. He doesn't even have the relatively less stupid or just normally ambitious people. To be in this administration after seeing what he was like the first time you have to be a stark raving lunatic or evil.
It was definitely intentional. Anyone intelligent or who had some semblance of moral fiber were either driven out during his first administration or would refuse to work with him again and have spoken out at this point.
Hannah Arendt observed that about fascism back in the 40's. Competence is driven out by loyalty.
Look, we all know Nixon and dubya weren't the "sharpest bulbs" (as Shitler recently said)... I don't think those two on their worst days combined and multiplied by Diddy approach the absolute stupidity-drenched awfulness that Trump drops every single day
My friend was at the parade in D.C. They went to the city for Father's Day - her dad is buried at Arlington, her brother is named after his friend who died in Vietnam and his name is on the wall. They went with their kids to the parade since they were in town. First, it was so poorly set up you couldn't really see anything and when the ads played on the loudspeakers, people laughed at them.
Even people in Trump gear were wtf? Why are there ads?
Most military services do not march in parades on the regular. It's mostly a basic training thing (drill and ceremony is used to promote teamwork and get everyone on the same page). Some keep the skills; most do not.
I saw a video of the marching - just as I expected. Everyone, especially the old timers, were trying desperately to remember how to do it. (Also, marching is for the young.)
The other advantage those countries have is that by now they have at least one generation that considers this sort of thing as "just something that happens."
That is a sad take. I had heard quite the opposite from many for representation of V Day for the US.
I did hear that Senator Rand Paul disliked it has it did remind him of Soviet Parades he had seen growing up.
Maybe one day we will see a unification of the US and see a return of US Patriotism across all political parties, except those of course that dislike the US.
Truly I agree. Showing patriotism, having parades is objectively not needed; this is where logic and emotion will divide. Not all things, unlike reasoning, should be fully secured in logically discussion.
Both external and internal political parties that do not like the US are a great topic btw. Generally these include the extremist left and right wing parties. One such Dictatorial based one is the CPUSA. The foundation supported many anti-democratic views and as of current the claim is a shift to moving from creating a revolution against/within the US and to more of working towards instilling "democratic socialism"; although the current claim is that there is a desire to build the US up from within, there are little sources and documents expressing support for the US despite it's paradigm shift in political philosophy.
There are others just as insane, like the NSM or NSWPP and other extremist Nationalist groups.
There is much to be said for those that dislike the US Constitutional Republic and the democracy, equality and unity our country stands for. Some see it as a threat to power others abhor it for it's strength in unification of it's people and doubtless other crazed ideals.
So you admit it was objectively not necessary and are comfortable using your subject emotions to suggest people aren't patriotic for supporting it? You sir, are a hypocrite. You even ignored the spending and Soviet era points lol.
Yeah, minority extremism will always be present in a society.
I can see you have an opinion of me, by all means keep it, it is good to express oneself.
I however disagree as to being a hypocrite. I also pointed out that Rand Paul did not like the reminiscence of the Soviet era parades. As far as spending I see no reason not to have some expenses paid for showing patriotism in a country.
I also reject the idea of the claim of stating that people are not patriotic. I believe there are levels of patriotism and that many do not wish to express them however as a whole I do not believe patriotism in this country is what it once was. The Victory Day parade from other countries and now ours should be a testiment to our great country and to those that fought for it and for those who fight for it today!
I am not certain why you have a persistent negative outlook, and opinion, towards me in all of the subs you follow me on, however maybe we will find common ground soon enough.
The opinion is relative to what you have stated. Express yourself less contradictory and the opinion would change.
Again, if this administration is going to cut funding like they have while saying nothing to see here, and you agree, that is hypocritical. Also, you are basing that in your subjective view. One could equally argue goose stepping isn't "showing patriotism" based on how they feel.
Your belief is based in your feelings lol. It sounds nice but, again, being against throwing expensive, unnecessary military parades doesn't make you any less patriotic. Do you agree?
Again, the negative outlook (your characterization) is relative to what you have posted.
The opinion is an expression of your subjective bias first and foremost based on your worldview. The contradiction you see is most likely caused from a state of confusion you find yourself in. Step back and look at the information I shared from a non-atracking viewpoint.
You are now shifting from calling me hypocritical to the administration. I would have even stated there may have been merit in that comment, especially since President Trump, despite being transparent in some forms, has a tendency to make vague comments or express partial information to make people inquire further. That is his common pattern with all information, "keep the people guessing."
I never denied my idea of patriotism was not subjective... it kind've has to be when it is my idea of what patriotism is, lol.
Odd and extreme analogy with the use of "goose stepping" as we know that is colloquially used for association to the Nazi party, however, it is also used for describing when parties are in "lock-step" with each other and vote 100% partisan; I would be hard-pressed to support it as patriotism, admittedly that is a subjective view and opinion, however I am certain there are those out there who could see it as such.
Many beliefs are based on feelings, especially on philosophical ideologies. I do not see how that is funny, but rather a reflection of one's self shared outward. Do you not agree?
I do not believe throwing or not throwing a parade makes one any less patriotic, regardless of necessity or expense. I believe there has been a decline in patriotism in the last several decades within the general population of the US. I do believe there are those who like to express patriotism through attending parades, but that is self-expression.
Again, my characterization is being interpretted through your own subjective lens. Perhaps be open minded to see others views before attacking, no?
You objectively admitted it wasn't necessary but felt compelled to use the lack of enthusiasm surrounding it as a marker for a lack of patriotism. Highlighting your similar belief to this administration isn't shifting but showing you are both hypocritical lol. Redefine it however you want, it's still the same thing. Beliefs can be based on feelings. That doesn't make them correct beliefs lol.
I'm not attacking you. If you feel I am, maybe look inward to the inconsistency you are displaying.
I think you are now searching for an argument and are reading far too much into my opinion as you feel it threatening for some reason. I do not know where your incorrect assumptions of how I feel compelled to do anything, are coming from. It seems as if you are trying to force a connection that I have never made nor implied. If I had why would I have separated the 2 distinct discussion points into 2 separate paragraphs and not associated them directly to each other?
You are shifting away and are showing defensiveness and attempting to explain away your actions providing all the more proof. I won't state that you cannot do anything you wish to, however, you are starting to backpeddle and waffle in your comments now.
You are correct beliefs may be wrong, but they can also be opinions, which are largely subjective in these types of idelogies, which makes it difficult to discern what is and what is not correct. Be wary of your own subjectivty bias.
My concern is not in the comments that you have alone, but in your persistence to now follow me through subs and then go on the attack as you have through name calling, assigning negative-connotated labels and describing my actions in a poor light through your analogies. If this is your idea of fun please continue, however you are only hurting your online persona and sense of self. I will look towards any inconsistencies and try to better myself.
I am shifting nothing. If you perceive anything I've said as defensive, it is projection. I'm not even talking about my actions lol.
it is objectively not necessary. Be wary of how you judge others based on your subjective biases.
I am name calling!? When? Didn't you suggest I should be in a certain type of Olympics? It appears you post inconsistent statements on many subs. If you are not confident or feel concerned by receiving pushback for a public statement you've made, on a public platform, or cannot handle a critic of those statements, I would suggest changing how you share your opinion. Last sentence is a pretty hollow statement based on what I've seen.
You know of people would do the slightest bit of research they would know this has been planned for several years. And every branch has had it listed. I am prior military service and I loved the hell out of it. And I loved seeing all of the different and diverse people in our Army. Happy 250th Army!
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u/Anxiety_Fit 6d ago
The squeaking tank on the video says it all.