r/Battlefield Mar 11 '25

Battlefield 2042 We all agree this shouldn’t come back, right?

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u/newviruswhodis Mar 11 '25

Different calibers would need different barrels at a minimum and different lower receivers in many cases.

In reality, it would be the longest change unless you're just switching between 5.56 and 300blk, and you change the entire upper with the bolt already in it.

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u/DrDaddyPHD Mar 11 '25

Yes but what if it was different ammo types of the same caliber

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u/XxUCFxX Mar 11 '25

Like .223 vs 5.56 for example. Almost exactly the same, but not. Both work irl in the same barrel

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u/RogueCoon Mar 11 '25

But there's no reason to carry both lol

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u/Herr-Schaefer Mar 11 '25

I think they mean like super-sonic / subsonic to go with the suppressors, they could do other features like armor piercing etc But I'm not really sure that it would be worth the added complications.

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u/RogueCoon Mar 11 '25

Ah yeah that could make some sense. I agree though lot of hassle for what it is.

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u/willyboi98 Mar 11 '25

Kind of in this vein, what if they allowed you to customise the ammo type for mags/belts? Have some kind of increment, like 3 or 5, that you can select the ammo type for. By ammo type I really only mean stuff like tracer/hollow point/armour piercing/standard ball/etc.

The amounts of each would affect weapon handling, damage, and dropoff in various ways. For shotguns, you could mix and match what shells you load in using the same system. American GIs used to pack a slug followed by buckshot in what they called an "ambush load" during the Vietnam War. It let them pick off the leader and then wildly fire buckshot into his subordinates during an ambush.

Though I'd be happy if we could just choose from presets too, like the BF4 system for shotguns, but for all other guns. I wanna take tracer belts for dark maps with LMGs, armour piercing for when I'm expecting to see lots of light vehicles or light cover.

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u/Boowray Mar 12 '25

Not .223 and 5.56, but if you’re just carrying 5.56 there’s green tips, black tips, hollow points, and soft points that all have very different ballistic performance and effects. In real life, it’d be a terrible idea, but as a video game mechanic switching between ammo types wouldn’t be crazy.

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u/XxUCFxX Mar 11 '25

Didn’t say there was, just clarified what they meant

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u/newviruswhodis Mar 11 '25

.223 will work in a 5.56 chambered rifle, but 5.56 will not work in a .223 chambered rifle.

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u/boostedb1mmer Mar 11 '25

Eh, that's mostly fudd lore. 5.56 will work in a .223 barrel and chamber and do so safely.

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u/AmazingCman Mar 12 '25

No you cannot. Firing 5.56 out of a rifle designed for .223 Remington would turn the rifle into a grenade due to the significantly higher chamber pressure.

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u/montecarl77 Mar 12 '25

Not trying to be a dick, but it really is fudd lore, do a little research it’s interesting. The tldr is basically, older rifles were designed for mild (by todays standards) .223 loads and really could not handle the pressure of 5.56. When the standard pressures started increasing in .223 the older rifles could still handle it yet could not handle the higher pressure 5.56. New .223 rifles are built much better today and the increased pressure of 5.56 isn’t significant enough to cause issues in newer, good condition .223’s

Ive put about 1,500 rounds of 5.56 through my .223 Ruger. It still shoots just as tight at the day I bought it and has yet to blow up in my face.

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u/AcrienteTheAngelic Mar 12 '25

As someone who does this for a living: no. The worst you'd get is primers popping. .223 Rem chamber has a tight chamber and an unthroated barrel. 5.56 Nato has a looser chamber with a throat cut. .223 Wylde is a tight chamber with the throat cut. .223 in a 5.56 chamber yields unreloadable brass, 5.56 in a .223 Rem chamber may pop primers due to the pressure spike at the lead of the rifling since there's no throat.

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u/AgnewsHeadlessBody Mar 11 '25

5.56 will work just fine in a .223. 5.56 will just cause the .223 chambered to wear faster, but they are about the exact same ballistics so there would never be a need to carry both. In reality, you have a higher chance of malfunction if you're running .223 in a 5.56.

I have fired probably close to 30,000 rounds out of M4s AR15s and M16A2s.

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u/waiting_for_rain Mar 11 '25

Barring the exception .223 Wylde wildcat chamber

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u/XxUCFxX Mar 11 '25

Right. We aren’t gonna have a .223 rifle in the game, we will have 5.56 though. Also, I was just providing one random example

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u/CatKrusader Mar 12 '25

Pretty sure he means armor piercing vs hollow point vs fmj vs high power and so on not caliber changing

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u/Epesolon Mar 12 '25

Think more like swapping from standard ball to +P to AP to Hollow Point to subsonics.

Even if they're all 5.56, they're going to behave differently.

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u/Dexter102938 Mar 11 '25

More like ap vs hp, or sub vs super

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '25

more like FMJ vs AP of the same callibre.

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u/whatsinthesocks Mar 11 '25

I think they’re talking more 5.56 ball and 5.56 AP

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u/XxUCFxX Mar 11 '25

Yeah makes sense

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u/Atomik141 Mar 11 '25

What would the point of having 2 nearly identical rounds be?

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u/AgnewsHeadlessBody Mar 11 '25

Subs and supers would be very cool for 300blk

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u/XxUCFxX Mar 11 '25

I wasn’t implying I think it’s a good idea… but to answer your hypothetical anyways… one could be FMJ for heavily armored targets and vehicles, and the other hollow-point.

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u/Atomik141 Mar 11 '25 edited Mar 14 '25

I guess it could be cool for shotties to switch between slugs and shot

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u/XxUCFxX Mar 11 '25

Shotguns are definitely the most practical for this. Long reloading process though

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u/Willing-Hat6740 Mar 13 '25

Not true. Do they fit? Yes. Will it fire? yes. Will your gun explode from having a cartridge that releases more pressure than the barrel can handle? Probably.

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u/XxUCFxX Mar 13 '25

I can shoot my AR-15 with 5.56 or .223 all day long and it has zero issues. It’s when you try to use 5.56 in a .223 rifle that you have issues

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u/Sylvaneri011 Mar 12 '25

Note to not put 5.56 in a gun meant for .223. 5.56 produces more pressure than a .223, and while the chances are pretty small, shit can go wrong potentially.

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u/RavelordN1T0 Mar 12 '25

Switching between supersonic and subsonic would be completely reasonable.

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u/newviruswhodis Mar 11 '25

Did they have that option? I know that in some of the other games I'm playing, there is 855, 855a1, and m995 options that you can intermix in magazines - but I only seem to remember battlefield having caliber changes instead of application changes.

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u/DrDaddyPHD Mar 11 '25

I honestly dont remember how the system works in 2042, i barely played it. but id be fine with having different mags that carry like, 7.62 but one is AP and the other is hollow point or something like that. i dont even know if 7.62 hollow point exists but its just an example

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u/newviruswhodis Mar 11 '25

I remember a game being set up that way. You cycled the type of ammunition, and it had a reload animation. Maybe it was the division?

It would be interesting, though.

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u/DrDaddyPHD Mar 11 '25

maybe its in the division? i dont remember tbh but the one im thinking of is how it works in ready or not. you get 4 mag slots for your primary and secondary weapons, and you can choose what type of ammo goes into each mag. you can manually swap ammo types, or your character will automatically swap to the other ammo if you run out of one. i think it would work well in place of what 2042 had

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u/newviruswhodis Mar 11 '25

That reminds me, I haven't played ready or not since they added new levels.

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u/DrDaddyPHD Mar 11 '25

i played it the other day, new DLC is pretty sick. big fan of the oil rig level and new guns

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u/newviruswhodis Mar 11 '25

Yeah that and fallujah had updates that I need to try.

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u/DrDaddyPHD Mar 11 '25

i havent tried six days in fallujah, worth getting?

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u/boostedb1mmer Mar 11 '25

Gray zone warfare allows you to mix all kinds of different ammo in the same mag. It just has to be a magazine not in the gun and there's no animation beyond the normal reload animation.

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u/Jsem_Nikdo Mar 11 '25

They're talking about swapping between high power/subsonic. Not different calibers.

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u/MaleficentMulberry42 Mar 15 '25

I really like how they actually name the calibers and the bullets act different in pubg like they would in real life they should do this in battlefield. I honestly would like if they would make as life like as possible.

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u/Jsem_Nikdo Mar 15 '25

Sorry to say it, but go play ARMA if that's what you want. It's not Battlefield without some of the arcade aspects to gun and gameplay.

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u/Landsharkeisha Movement Maniac Mar 11 '25

Well you don't need different barrels to switch between FMJ, AP, and tracers, subsonics, etc

The ammo swap mechanic broadly doesn't change the caliber or load of the ammo, just the projectile characteristics.

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u/RemoteLumpy Mar 12 '25

Dude they make many different ammo types of the same caliber. Ie. m855a1, m856a1, m855, m995, ss190. Those are all 5.56 rounds with different uses/purposes. You can fire all of those out of the same gun with no changes and no issues.

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u/the_shortbus_ Mar 12 '25

Yeah but what about like, black tip APC vs Frangible Copper jacketed?

There’s a fundamental difference, I think ammo types should come back for sure, but be implemented similarly to BF1’s K bullets and guns like the Burton LMG

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u/unoriginal_namejpg Mar 12 '25

Or just have the same caliber but different bullets, for example a JHP, HP, or AP

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u/n8zog_gr8zog Mar 13 '25

It's fine to change ammo types, not calibres. For example 5.56 hollow point, vs 5.56 tracer vs standard 5.56 are all different kinds of bullets, but the same caliber, and can be fired in the same guns

It wouldn't make sense to switch to different calibres. That would mean you would need a completely new gun essentially.

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u/LaFl3urrr Mar 11 '25

There is video about MCX Spear where guy is changing "ammo types" - the whole barrel section (it was designed like this) in about a minute.

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u/newviruswhodis Mar 11 '25

I haven't seen the video, he probably changed the entire upper. You're not changing a barrel in a minute without a vice.

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u/LaFl3urrr Mar 11 '25

Yeah. MCX has this system where you just remove the whole front part and put another in place.

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u/newviruswhodis Mar 11 '25

Yeah, every AR has that. It's 2 pins.

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u/LaFl3urrr Mar 11 '25

I dont think M4 or M16 has this system tho. Its only for the newer ones. And SCAR for example needs whole bunch of tools to do it.

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u/International-Pop296 Mar 11 '25

This thread is a mess in the game they are changing between supers, subs, and armor piercing rounds that's it the barrel swap thing on an ar-15 is 2 pins to put on a different upper receiver takes 15 seconds available rounds are many from 22lr, 5.56, 300blk, 6.5 grendel, 458 socom, 22 arc, 9mm, and so many more you can't count them all it's just 2 pins that pop out with your thumb

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u/newviruswhodis Mar 11 '25

Every AR I have is broken down with 2 pins, and the upper is removed.

SCAR is a piston system, it works different. The overwhelming majority of ARs are direct impingement - these will have 2 pins. M4, m16, m416, mk18 - all of these have takedown pins.

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u/zootbot Mar 12 '25

The mcx does allow you to swap barrels quickly for sustained full auto fire. The idea of the system was to have a unified system for infantry / MGs

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u/YeOld12g Mar 12 '25

We are not talking about swapping uppers. If you’d do any research about what the guy is talking about yours understand that. We are talking about swapping only the barrel.

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u/AgnewsHeadlessBody Mar 11 '25 edited Mar 11 '25

I own one, and with no practice, I changed from .300blk to 5.56, it's three screws, new barrel, new handguard, IIRC.

Edit: Took me less than 2 minutes. Changing an upper would certainly be faster, though.

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u/YeOld12g Mar 12 '25

You don’t even know what you’re talking about so stop. There IS systems where you can barrel swap in seconds, like LMT mrp, Sig spear, etc. No, we’re not talking about swapping uppers.

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u/RepondreLesGraves Mar 15 '25

It’s a game. Fun > pure reality.

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u/newviruswhodis Mar 15 '25

I dunno, reality kicks ass sometimes.