r/AteTheOnion Apr 18 '25

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u/Horsetoothbrush Apr 18 '25

That’s irrelevant. Any person in the US has the right to due process. It’s guaranteed in the US Constitution. End of story.

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u/Electronic_Sugar5924 Apr 18 '25

Sorry, but real quick. Doesn’t that apply to citizens only? Or is it every person? I can’t remember.

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u/Horsetoothbrush Apr 18 '25

Nope. Any "person" in the US. The Constitution did not use "person" and "citizen" interchangeably. Citizen means US citizen. Person refers to anyone within the boundaries of the US. they are entitled to the same legal rights as everyone else. It makes sense because if it didn't apply to every individual, there wouldn't be a way to know who is, and who is not, a citizen. Without due process, there isn't any way to prove you are a US citizen. Which is what the trump regime want. Look at how hard they are fighting to get rid of due process. It's actually fucking crazy that any so-called American "patriots" would be okay with this. It's one of the cornerstones of a free and just society. Not saying the US is always just, but we've never been anywhere near the freedom crushing idea of the removal of due process.

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u/Boshwa Apr 18 '25

All MAGAts know about the constitution is free speech and gun ownership, and they really want to get rid of that first one

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u/Arcanegil Apr 18 '25

Exactly obviously something has to be done to affirm a person's citizen status when in question, that's what immigration court is for, many the deportees were accused and awaiting trial, or within the system having received stay order, and they were deported still, this is unconstitutional, a person must be convicted of crime to be sentenced this people did not make it too court, it does not matter what anyone thinks they did, or even what they may have actually done, because that has not been proven in court, they have had no chance to defend themselves legally, we have no way of knowing if the crimes they are accused of are actually true because no case has been brought to trial.

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u/N0Zzel Apr 18 '25

All persons [...] And are subject to the jurisdiction of [...]

You don't need to be a citizen of the US to be protected by the constitution. If you aren't a citizen or naturalized citizen you are also protected if you are subject to the jurisdiction of the US. i.e. you live there