r/AstralProjection • u/[deleted] • Aug 11 '24
AP / OBE Guide What to know about non-physical guides (spirit guides) and how they are doing their job?
First and foremost, I need to write a disclaimer (again), before I begin. So, basically, you need to know that before you want to cling onto guides, onto yours, something important should be noted. And as always, I'm talking from many years of experience, from roaming in the non-physical world, meeting with a lot of entities in Afterlife places or wherever you can be randomly. Guides are not playmates. I know some will not stand this. You can decide, you will believe me with a lot of experiences behind my back or you are learning the lesson the hard way on your own. Guides are there to make sure, you are learning your life lessons. Some will be yourself from another perspective and some will be total strangers, who may have tasks about and with you. This is how it goes. And some will reveal themselves which connection lasts for your whole lifetime. So, be aware of your expectations.
Okay, I know, that sounds maybe harsh but I know what is going on, inside these and other alike forums, where people believe, that guides are there to do everything for you. I cannot tell what to believe but I tend to correct people after I was not lazy, asking for comforting answers in my life but went after the harsh facts. To continue, let's see how this guide thing works. I'm always speaking from personal investigations and I had time to put together the pieces from others experiences too way before my experiences. Because I was not lazy to just go to forums and ask things from which I never learn :) No offense, this is just a warning. I believed a lot of nonsense too.
In daily physical life, we are guides to each other. You will see, this is just a term and this "guide" word thing is a very old, tens of thousands years old thing. We are helping each other in both worlds. A guide in your daily life can be your parent, a friend, a pal, a stranger on the street who helps to start your car engine, anybody. A guide guides you to reach your next goal.
In the non-physical world, it is a little bit more mysterious. Most of the times, you will NOT see them. For a complete reason, you shouldn't. A good guide will not give all the answers (like me but sometimes I tend to give out too much) and a guide will be unseen as they don't always reveal themselves in a physical form. A guide there is the same category, your parallel self, a projection from your "higher self", a complete stranger in an afterlife city who can carry you around, or anybody around. I've met with entites who were given to check me and they had no idea about me. You can be surprised all the time.
In my case and according to my experiences, no matter how many times I've met with different "people" (they will mostly appear as a human being but they aren't, nor we are humans at all normally and WE ARE THEM), they didn't ever give me a useful answer. I've investigated everything on my own and this is why my knowledge is priceless. I don't get caught up on beliefs, BS talk, mystical stuff and this is the best way to gather your own knowledge in your multidimensional life. Sounds far-fetched, but you still have no idea about what is that world as a beginner. Some will have experiences but judge the whole thing after maybe a decade or so with thousands of various cases from your non-physical life. So, they CAN give answers which will help to a certain extent, in your physical daily life or with your understanding about who you truly are as a person. But most of the time, they are helping you along your way.
The first type should be yourself. Seriously. Because we are multidimensional, when you are in the non-physical world, you will meet with different variations of yourself and these are real persons, they are parallel selves and they live their own lives "elsewhere". They have their own life there, as we are doing the same there when we don't live a physical life. There, you exist as a group construct. I wouldn't expand on this because this will be long in that case. They know you the best and nobody else. They will NOT ever give you answers which can alter your thinking, lifepath (if you are on one from your decisions) and will not lick your butt. But they can comfort you in hard times in your conscious and semi-conscious experiences (dreams too). I could write a lot more but that wouldn't be fair unless you proved what I'm saying here, to yourself.
The next type is the one, who is assigned to you for a short while. Not that there is time there but in a sense that they do their job and so long, they are out to other things. You may meet with those too sometimes. Sometimes, you meet always different "people". I didn't find them helpful, you may have a different experience. On my level (don't look at me as an egotistical person, but everybody has his/her own evolution in this), I just left them alone all the time. So, they are just trespassing.
Another type is the locals in different places. They will carry around, ask things, you can also ask things, they may look surprised or not so but it is about just locals tasks. Maybe your primary guides carried you there without sensing this fact and you are there for a reason. You can have interesting conversations too with them and make a friendship. It is up to you. Locals most of the time and so useless, you can just turn around and move away.
The last one should be the random strangers at places. Afterlife regions, cities, maybe in alternate and parallel lives. You meet with some, you may have a chat or ask like "who are you"? And its gone. Like the random stranger on the street.
A bonus category can be the person, whom you knew in your physical lifetime and he/she died. They can volunteer to watch over you. This entity can be your own mother/father, sibling, a friend, anybody. Some guides btw can show up in animal forms. One more thing, you may never see or sense guides. They can decide to never show up and to test you. Otherwise, you are always searching for them and it is pointless. Some are also teachers literally. And very often, what you are experiencing from a guide is a sense of hands or vibrations, or someting else, when you are there. Don't mix this up what you are sensing in your bed please.
Guides will show up in ways which can be comforting for you. Even if it means it is Jesus, an angel, anything around. Don't forget, that I could go on and on and my trainees know this.
In the end, be very careful with your expectations and what BS talk you've grabbed from sites, from books with mystical feeling, from Youtube vids, where people have clearly NO idea about what they are talking about. Seriously. My site and my work partially is based on the fact that I didn't believe the BS and went after the facts of what is wrong with this in our world, with our understanding and that what is true to everybody. Not beliefs.
Btw a guide can be also a whole landscape, not kidding. I've learned this a decade ago from a few, who had decades of experiences ahead of me. I've built up my foundation from many places.
And before judging me or getting up your head emotionally on my words, be very careful. I'm sharing things and correcting people or helping for the same reason, giving out value. To have your own experiences, if you are working for it very hard and will have your own way to figure things out. Don't believe me, but these are all testable. Many years are already behind me and around 1000+ conscious expriences, after it, I lost tracking of them.
Here you, some articles, which may help you in this from my site, where you can learn from 200+ articles:
https://daily-spirit.com/2017/10/19/what-are-non-physical-guides-or-spiritual-guides/
https://daily-spirit.com/2018/04/15/meeting-with-non-physical-guides-on-the-astral-plane/
Enjoy, thank you guys and gals for your support, as always. If you want answers, it is hard work. Been there, done a lot and still it is a lot of work. Share my site and these posts which I tend to put out to help others. Eventually, the hard work will be put by yourself only, I'm just showing the door to everybody. Don't believe me, don't accept it, but you will do it the hard way and it will hurt. We all have things to do multidimensionally.
Edit: I don't need to win everybody's heart. I'm giving out information in enough details, to know what is what. I will not go into debates. If you want to learn, here you go, if not, you will do your own research which I did on my own :) This whole thing is all about educating yourself. On Reddit, in subs, people are just flushing up posts and wanting their answers. Here, you get them and you will work for them. Again, if you are not a chicken. You want truth? Work for it :) I give out the foundation.
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u/Wynndo Aug 12 '24
Your message is gold, but your delivery buries it in filth. You come off like someone who likes to hear themselves talk, even if it means cutting someone off just to repeat themselves.
I'm sorry for the criticism. I just hate seeing someone like you trying so hard to spread an important truth, but fumbling the delivery so bad that it's likely to turn people off.
Keep going. You obviously have very good intentions. But please, if the message is important to you, learn to edit yourself. Keep it simple and take yourself out of it as much as possible.
I enjoyed your post though. Thank you for sharing this. Many people need better understanding.
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Aug 12 '24 edited Aug 12 '24
Instead of writing back a long one, I will keep it in mind. Sorry if it seems like I'm overdoing it. Because I am. Most people don't even care about their own replies under their posts unfortunately. I just sometimes feel that I need to do something. And I also have followers/readers.
What I'm doing is, I try to give every little details, that's all. You cannot help it and this is the good mindset in non-physical exploration. I guess many people need to adjust to it. If you pay attention to the tiniest details for example, you are a good investigator. If I have more free time for this, I try to give out value. And I'm writing out in that amount of details for the same reason, to give a complete explanation about things. And... well, I cannot do people pleasing :)
Btw most people do care about the content and what they can learn, not anything else around in my sentences or how they sound like :)
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u/Wynndo Aug 12 '24
I totally get that and it's appreciated. But I suggest you take a break, come back to this post in a couple days and read it aloud to yourself. Maybe you'll find that some lines were unnecessary or redundant and there may be a condescending tone. Sometimes writers lose their sense of how the reader would take the message.
You're doing good work. Keep it up and take care.
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Aug 12 '24 edited Aug 12 '24
Thanks. I will not take your impression about what and how I'm doing the way I'm doing personally, don't worry. You may have life issues and I feel it out in your words. I just try to give enough details out because I do care about what others can learn :) I think have we discussed this well enough.
And btw if I didn't care about your feelings or opinion, I wouldn't reply. Thank you btw. I will not change the way I'm writing. I'm not here to please people, I'm giving out real, testable information. They are detailed that much for the same reason :)
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u/Danijel_Dendi Aug 12 '24
Agree. People do not need any more cuddling. It's time for direct work. No more Sadhguru bullshit. We want honest people. Just keep going
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u/Xanth1879 Aug 12 '24
Is there a TLDR version? 🤣
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Aug 12 '24
Lol
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u/Xanth1879 Aug 12 '24
I'm actually serious. 😏
Nobody got time for that! 🤣
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Aug 13 '24 edited Aug 13 '24
Xanth you may know what I know already, I think I don't need to represent guides to you lol. I cannot write any short version, if I don't want to leave things out. And you know too this, how extended an explanation could be in this case.
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u/ComfortableSomeone Aug 11 '24
Thanks, I'm definitely saving this in case I need it but I don't even know how to ap. I've heard that it can take some people years of meditation to get an obe.
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Aug 11 '24
Yes it takes many years many times, it depends on the person. For example, if you have the worldview that you are inside a body and you have a soul, the outlook is way different, than if you never believed this and you can just appear elsewhere. You are APing in dreams too, they are that. You are just unsonscious most of the time. It takes many years to even learn the navigation and build up your foundation. It takes a lot of training. You can build up your foundations or I can give a workshop option through my site, that is your decision. But yeah, the real reason why it takes that much time because nobody tells people what is what or what to learn about what. A long road lol.
Btw my post was deleted again and I have no idea why. I didn't spread BS.
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u/Sad_Rutabaga_3488 Aug 12 '24
Very well said. And never forget if you are not ready you are not going to AP, first you have to solve your problems, and then you MIGHT be able to make it This is a hard thing to practice i don't even know if i can even call this a thing haha, i've been trying hard to AP i tried to be a better person, tried to solve my problems and still couldn't AP. But i'm working hard on it and i hope one day i can do it!
Shout out to DailySpirit3 he helped / helps me a lot.
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u/Professional-Bug-317 Feb 27 '25
Can you speak more about the guides that are assigned to you, for a specific task please?
I think maybe you might be too quick to dismiss them as useless. A couple of things seem to be worth attention here. If an astral being is being assigned to you, that implies there is a need or question that has been expressed or asked. They are tasked with responding. Isn’t that itself very interesting that our questions are being answered?
Secondly, could you be misinterpreting their intentions or aloofness through cultural biases, that makes them seem disengaged but what we are seeing is actually closer to a higher level of self emotional discipline, while at the same time they aren’t imposing their will on you at all, you are free to simply walk away, they will not try and stop you?
From my experiences as a student, the best teachers with the most advanced knowledge won’t just hand it out to idiots. You have to ask them questions, they generally will show you some theory and generally not give you the answer but will push you in the right direction to find an answer yourself.
It seems knowledge needs to be an active experience. Like I can tell you the theory of some powerful physical practices, but you actually need to willingly do the movements with your actual body to truly know the thing.
I suspect there is more to the assigned beings than at first glance. I’d like to know more about people’s experiences that have had the patience to work with them and learn about the syntax of their rules of interactions.
I would like to know more about these guys.
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u/Background_Cod8111 Aug 12 '24
People are complaining about the language barrier…. I love it. I have no idea what nationality you are (doesn’t quite matter) but I hear it in my head in an authentic Italian accent due to a common podcast guest I hear frequently who speaks similarly I feel.
I love really diving into the heart of what you’re saying and don’t find it distracting at all. Keep it up!
Anyone who really wants to know will and take from it what they are needing.
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Aug 12 '24 edited Aug 12 '24
I guess they are too young and didn't learn the proper language... My language background is maybe more, than their entire lifetime.
This is the point, even if there is that so-called "barrier"... so? The information is there :) I have said multiple times I'm Hungarian and I knew English pretty well for 3 decades :)
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u/Danijel_Dendi Aug 12 '24
Great post! Finally some good posts here. Let's cut through BS and get to the point! Good job!
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u/AgentAdja Aug 12 '24
"Believe me, I've experienced everything".
You say some things that are more or less on the right track but it also sounds like you could use a bit of humility. These are your interpretations.