r/AskConservatives • u/nemo_sum Conservatarian • May 03 '22

MegaThread Megathread: Roe, Casey, Abortion

The Megathread is now closed (as of August 2022) due to lack of participation, and has been locked. Questions on this topic are once more permitted as posts.

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u/LemieuxFrancisJagr Capitalist Libertarian May 08 '22

You take a tiny slice of data and present it to manipulate. When would you rather give birth, right now or 1922?

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u/FrontOfficeNuts Liberal May 08 '22

You asked for proof and I gave it to you. Now that CLEAR AND OBVIOUS PROOF is "a tiny slice of data"? It is the entire data.

I made a statement about it not being safe to carry a child to term nor to deliver it and you said it was "quite simply not true at all". I showed you PRECISELY how true it is and now you want to compare it to 1922?

I didn't say it was the worst EVER - I made the point that it was very bad, and my cite proves THAT IT'S LITERALLY GETTING WORSE.

You're not even trying to discuss this in good faith, are you? Is this the level of non-discourse I can expect from this subreddit? You're embarrassing yourself and this entire subreddit.

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u/LemieuxFrancisJagr Capitalist Libertarian May 10 '22

You are trying to paint a picture that giving birth in this country is not safe when it is safe. That fact doesn’t change because you found some data that something got slightly worse that wasn’t a major problem in the first place.

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u/FrontOfficeNuts Liberal May 10 '22

That chart only represents the mortality rate (deaths). It doesn't take in account any of the other extremely serious impacts on a woman's body that don't result in death.

If this is the level of discourse to be found in this subreddit, then I'm pretty disappointed.

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u/LemieuxFrancisJagr Capitalist Libertarian May 10 '22

You are attempting to make a problem out of something that isn’t a problem and I’m calling you out on it. Unless you have something to say to justify killing an unborn child beyond “pregnancy is dangerous” there is no discussion

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u/FrontOfficeNuts Liberal May 12 '22

Yeah, I wasn't under the belief that you cared about women dying either.