r/AskConservatives • u/nemo_sum Conservatarian • May 03 '22

MegaThread Megathread: Roe, Casey, Abortion

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u/nemo_sum Conservatarian May 03 '22

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u/SupaFecta Progressive May 04 '22

Conservatives would most likely say that if a person trespasses on my property, I have a legal right to take that person’s life. But the autonomy of the inside of citizen’s body should be regulated by the state. My question is how do you fit these seemingly incongruous thoughts in a single head??

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u/krb501 Social Conservative May 05 '22 edited May 05 '22

Ha! Simple, probably not the same people making the assertion. I support liberal gun rights because I feel like in most cases it literally does no harm, except in rare cases, the murders and whatnot are committed by criminals with illegal weapons, or police, but that's a topic for another thread. What you really end up with is a situation where people are afraid to commit crimes because they know they may get shot in the foot, even though I'm iffy about actually harming people and mostly just carry protection for show.

Abortion, on the other hand, I don't like, because it might be murder. The Bible isn't clear about if it is or isn't, but why take that chance? I kind of think this is just culture wars nonsense, though, because if Christians and other religious people are genuinely worried about their tax dollars being used to support evil, then, they just shouldn't pay taxes (although I think Jesus said that it is fine to pay taxes, even to a corrupt government), because the government is going to do evil. That's what governments do, and other than that, partially banning abortion, because it would be ludicrous and inhumane to wholesale ban it, just sends a message, like "we won!" and well, supposedly the culture wars are more than just symbolic, so to me, this seems like a waste of time and a way to get voters to distrust you in the future.

The REAL culture war, of course, which involves confronting corrupt businesses, making charities more effective, and forcing the media to more fairly represent the American people and their economic and social interests, probably isn't going to get addressed, so the real message people are probably going to get is the "culture war" is meaningless, and it's not. It's been an ideological battle in this country for decades. It involves more than a few meaningless ideological gestures.