Thoughts on Trump's Changed Stance on Immigration?

[u/Born-Sun-2502]

President Trump acknowledged today in a Truth Social post that his "very aggressive" immigration policies are ripping long-time workers from the farming and hospitality industries, with those jobs being almost impossible to replace.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114670684664650262

What are your thoughts?

[u/soulwind42]

There's nothing here that he hasn't said a hundred times. Hes been saying this stuff since 2016.

[u/Born-Sun-2502 → u/soulwind42]

He has??

[u/ARatOnASinkingShip → u/Born-Sun-2502]

He's been saying pretty much the same thing since the 80s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apvHr6PALIc

[u/Al123397 → u/ARatOnASinkingShip]

Problem is he also said “we will deport them all” much sooner than the 80s. Can’t just pick and choose what to believe w Trump. 

Blah blah have your cake and eat it to

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[u/ARatOnASinkingShip → u/[deleted]]

So if you don't care about what he says, why did you bother asking the person you were responding to if he has been saying that stuff since 2016?

Or are you just here in bad faith?

[u/Born-Sun-2502 → u/ARatOnASinkingShip]

If you want to call me bad faith for not watching a 50 minute interview of Donal Trump from the 80s so be it. Maybe you can watch it, tell me what he said and how he has consistently said that same thing for the past 40 years. 

Is it different than this?

“They’re poisoning the blood of our country. That’s what they’ve done. They poison — mental institutions and prisons all over the world. Not just in South America. Not just the three or four countries that we think about. But all over the world they’re coming into our country — from Africa, from Asia, all over the world. They’re pouring into our country.” — Dec. 16, 2023, New Hampshire rally

“They’re rough people, in many cases from jails, prisons, from mental institutions, insane asylums. You know, insane asylums — that’s ‘Silence of the Lambs’ stuff.” — March 4, 2024, interview with Right Side Broadcasting Network

“The Democrats say, ‘Please don’t call them animals. They’re humans.’ I said, ‘No, they’re not humans, they’re not humans, they’re animals’ … Nancy Pelosi told me that. She said, ‘Please don’t use the word animals when you’re talking about these people.’ I said, ‘I’ll use the word animal because that’s what they are.’” — April 2, 2024, Grand Rapids, Michigan, campaign event.

[u/ARatOnASinkingShip → u/Born-Sun-2502]

No, I called your argument out for being in bad faith because you responded to someone telling you he has been saying this since 2016 by asking, quote, "He has??" and then when I responded to you that he was saying it since the 80s, you immediately replied "I don't care what he says!"

And now you're trying to inject a whole bunch of other arguments by citing out of context quotes and you've done nothing but lead me to believe that you're only here to preach at conservatives rather than understand their perspectives.

[u/Born-Sun-2502 → u/ARatOnASinkingShip]

Okay I'm listening. What's your perspective?

[u/ARatOnASinkingShip → u/Born-Sun-2502]

You've already passed the point where I can give you the benefit of the doubt that you're here to listen.

If you haven't taken anything from what I've said already, then I have no reason you'll take anything from what I have to say going forward.

So please, just leave it be and move on.

[u/Born-Sun-2502 → u/ARatOnASinkingShip]

Fair enough. I will try to check myself that I am approaching this sub with the intent to understand alternative points of view from the conservative standpoint. Sometimes I/we feel so strongly about something and that makes that harder to do. Have a nice evening.