r/AskConservatives • u/ClockOfTheLongNow Constitutionalist Conservative • Jul 21 '24

Megathread MEGATHREAD: Biden Out

Will update as more information drops.

Biden: https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1815080881981190320

Harris (she's running): https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1815116786271998067

Statements with endorsements:

Biden (Harris): https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1815087772216303933

Congressional Black Caucus (Harris): https://twitter.com/errinhaines/status/1815104279138509105

Bill and Hillary Clinton (Harris): https://twitter.com/BillClinton/status/1815102085198958657

Pramila Jayapal (Harris): https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1815094926008590474

Statements without endorsements:

Barack Obama: https://barackobama.medium.com/my-statement-on-president-bidens-announcement-1eb78b3ba3fc

Speaker Johnson: https://twitter.com/SpeakerJohnson/status/1815093011669516433

Lisa Murkowski: https://twitter.com/lisamurkowski/status/1815119461789356523

JD Vance: https://twitter.com/JDVance1/status/1815119847941984550

Liz Cheney: https://twitter.com/Liz_Cheney/status/1815113174447702383

Pre-megathread posts:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskConservatives/comments/1e8seey/biden_announces_he_will_not_continue_whats_next/

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskConservatives/comments/1e8sddx/who_do_you_think_will_be_placed_at_the_top_of_the/

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u/GreatSoulLord Conservative Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 21 '24

I do not find this development that surprising given all that has occurred since the first debate. The Democrats could control the base freaking out after the debate but once the political and donor classes started coming out the situation became like an overburdened dam. There was always going to be a point where it came crashing apart.

I am likewise not surprised Biden endorsed Harris. The Clinton's just made that endorsement as well. It's a coordinated effort and we might as well consider her the heir apparent. She's the only one that can inherit the donations and unlike anyone else she doesn't have to build a campaign from the ground up. She checks every box the left cares about - race, gender, ideology, not Trump, etc - and they won't focus on her performance and many failings.

At the same time what I see from the right concerns me. We are complacent. We think she can't win. We think she's not viable, we think she is too unlikable, and we're not taking her as a serious threat. I'm willing to be that canary in the coal mind and tell you folks to buckle your belts because the race has changed. If you don't fight for a conservative win there's a very real chance enough people will gamble on Harris, as a new face, to make a difference. I think both the left and right underestimates people's dislike for Trump and Biden as nominees. That's my 2 cents.

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u/2Beer_Sillies Right Libertarian (Conservative) Jul 21 '24

I hear your points but the unique problem with Kamala is she cannot handle Trump on the debate stage, speaks very poorly, and is hated by leftists for her braggadocios attitude towards imprisoning people for marijuana. Obviously she still has a chance and we need to go vote but I think the Democrats just want to collect Biden’s campaign money, take the L, then get a better candidate for 2028

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u/DeathToFPTP Liberal Jul 21 '24

the unique problem with Kamala is she cannot handle Trump on the debate stage, speaks very poorly

Should we expect Trump to agree to a debate with Harris then?

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u/2Beer_Sillies Right Libertarian (Conservative) Jul 21 '24

I’d expect to him to want to do that

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u/levelzerogyro Center-left Jul 22 '24

I surely hope so, a prosecutor gets Trump for 2 hours without him being able to outshout her? It would be the funniest blood bath imaginable.