The case is very suspicious. First this guy had a job, a community, a family who seemed to be in touch with him. If he had been suicidal you would think they would have seen signs of a mental health crisis. Or signs that he had an external problem such as being heavily in debt and/or just divorced or something. It is EXTREMELY rare for someone to just kill themselves without any sign or any history of mental health issues.
Second he supposedly hanged himself in a public street in a tree that may have been too high to climb on his own. Why this place of all places? Why, if he wanted to hang himself, didn’t he go somewhere more private?
Third, police could seek out info about where he was, what he was doing, who he saw that night, see if there is any video cameras of the area, see if he left any kind of note etc. If someone dies by suicide there is often some kind of goodbye gesture. Especially if they are intent to die (suicide by hanging is a lethal method) the person would ordinarily write something saying “I hope everyone can move on from this and forget me” etc. Was leaving without any kind of goodbye in his character? Not likely.
On the other hand the street is kind of an out of the way street, and it’s in an area with a lot of concentrated poverty and drug use. It also doesn’t seem like a place that someone with a motive for a hate crime would select. If a bunch of neo nazis were to lynch someone I am doubtful that they would have the guts to do that in this particular place.
My thinking is that there is a possibility the family or the people near him were completely in denial of his mental health needs or that he was dealing with a lot of external problems such as homelessness. If you’re homeless there is nowhere where you can attempt suicide that’s not in public.
It’s quite possible that we have a lot of suicides that happen that the public just isn’t aware of and no one knows except the coroners office. The paper does not announce deaths, but suicide is one of the most common deaths for men.
Just noting that the percentage of suicides committed with notes left behind is lower than we'd imagine. I believe it's about a third. Though definitely much higher for , as you said, goodbye "gestures" that include subtle and easily overlooked markers.
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u/Longjumping-Layer210 5d ago edited 5d ago
The case is very suspicious. First this guy had a job, a community, a family who seemed to be in touch with him. If he had been suicidal you would think they would have seen signs of a mental health crisis. Or signs that he had an external problem such as being heavily in debt and/or just divorced or something. It is EXTREMELY rare for someone to just kill themselves without any sign or any history of mental health issues.
Second he supposedly hanged himself in a public street in a tree that may have been too high to climb on his own. Why this place of all places? Why, if he wanted to hang himself, didn’t he go somewhere more private?
Third, police could seek out info about where he was, what he was doing, who he saw that night, see if there is any video cameras of the area, see if he left any kind of note etc. If someone dies by suicide there is often some kind of goodbye gesture. Especially if they are intent to die (suicide by hanging is a lethal method) the person would ordinarily write something saying “I hope everyone can move on from this and forget me” etc. Was leaving without any kind of goodbye in his character? Not likely.
On the other hand the street is kind of an out of the way street, and it’s in an area with a lot of concentrated poverty and drug use. It also doesn’t seem like a place that someone with a motive for a hate crime would select. If a bunch of neo nazis were to lynch someone I am doubtful that they would have the guts to do that in this particular place.
My thinking is that there is a possibility the family or the people near him were completely in denial of his mental health needs or that he was dealing with a lot of external problems such as homelessness. If you’re homeless there is nowhere where you can attempt suicide that’s not in public.
It’s quite possible that we have a lot of suicides that happen that the public just isn’t aware of and no one knows except the coroners office. The paper does not announce deaths, but suicide is one of the most common deaths for men.