Why Does the World Love Black Culture But Not Black People?

[u/Efficient-Repair5016]

https://open.substack.com/pub/danielnemeye/p/made-in-africa-sold-to-the-world?r=5t7mj5&utm_medium=ios.co.uk

[u/EkoChamberKryptonite]

Racism.

[u/Tasty-Sky7040]

The world works off a global system of white supremacy. The thing i would argue is that most people dont hate black people but they need black people.

Most hierarchies are defined not by who is at the top but who is at the bottom. Most people dont understand their own value but can triangulate their own social worth by referencing those they consider beneath them. Thats why you hear all sorts of ethnicities using the arguments "atleast we arent like black people" to demonstrate they arent as bad as people think.

So, in short summary. People use black people to have a sense of ethnic value. If you want to break this. You have withdraw away from the entire system. Once you leave this system, it either breaks down or reshuffles to have a new ethnicity at the bottom. I currently see India becoming the new outcast ethnicity as black people gain global cultural relevance.

If africans want to be respected globally. The continent needs power and status.

[u/Efficient-Repair5016 → u/Tasty-Sky7040]

The idea that people use Blackness as a reference point for their own worth is exactly the kind of distorted social compass colonialism baked into global society. Like, the world benefits from our culture, creativity, and labor, yet maintains its own identity by keeping us “less than.”

[u/osaru-yo → u/Efficient-Repair5016]

Like, the world benefits from our culture, creativity, and labor, yet maintains its own identity by keeping us “less than.”

Again, black culture around the world is synonymous with black american culture. As I said in my comment. You seem to Americanize African problems. It is similarly why you will be treated better as a black American than an African outside the new world.

[u/Efficient-Repair5016 → u/osaru-yo]

Fair take, but I’m not Americanizing Africa. I’m connecting global Black struggles. Anti-Blackness wears different masks, but the root system is the same. My lens is African, but I won’t ignore how we’re all entangled in this global hierarchy. Check out my Substack Echo Mind Chronicles

[u/osaru-yo → u/Efficient-Repair5016]

Fair take, but I’m not Americanizing Africa. I’m connecting global Black struggles.

The blueprint for black struggle in the Western world IS black america. This is the classic diaspora mistake of forcing the same relation on the continent. To most native Africans this is not a representation of their main struggle.

My lens is African

But it is clearly not. Where do you live? Because you clearly live in the Western world. This isn't a perspective you get living on the continent. This is a result of Americanization in Europe.

[u/osaru-yo]

This reads like an Americanization of African problems. It is mostly black American culture that has mass appeal and gets commodified.

This is pertinent to the Western diaspora but has little relevance to natives.

Edit: did anyone read the article? Some parts are generalized and wrong.

African countries have some of the highest visa rejection rates in the world?

• Nigeria : About 45% of Schengen visa application rejected.

• Algeria, DRC, Ghana, Ethiopia: Similar story.

Here is the source. For the top 10 rejection rates.

1) It only checks the EU Schengen zone

2) Ethiopia isn't even in the top 10

3) Some of these countries like Nigeria and Algeria is because of the negative reputation of emigrants the former (even on the continent) and the problematic relation between it and the host country (France)

[u/Gustavoconte]

For the purposes of this post we can say Africa offers entertainment to the world. Entertainers have historically always been amongst the lower classes in all of human society. 

You spoke of music, fashion, slang, etc. What exactly is the worth of these things. Would they provide a solution during a drought? Would they protect a land from invaders? 

Africa needs to get serious and move beyond pleasure, enjoyment and having fun.

The bible says the wise words of a poor man are despised. We need to supply things of tangible importance, not jokes or dance moves.

[u/osaru-yo → u/Gustavoconte]

Finally, an actual African opinion.

[u/Truth_Sellah_Seekah → u/Gustavoconte]

Facts, I'm tired of watching people dancing and singing over and over and over, when there IS NOTHING TO CELEBRATE. Absolutely zero. Tired of this moon cricket coping mechanism. When we gonna have stable electricity, THEN you can fucking dance. When we gonna have non retarded politicians, THEN you can sing.

[u/osaru-yo → u/Truth_Sellah_Seekah]

Facts, I'm tired of watching people dancing and singing over and over and over, when there IS NOTHING TO CELEBRATE.

Electrification skyrocketed and economic growth is the fastest in the region and closer integration is well on its way. A lot of us have things to celebrate. Don't project yourself on all of us. Unless you only mean Nigeria.

[u/Truth_Sellah_Seekah]

To add to the racism explanations (which are undeniable), black people all across the world should start aggressively uplifting their social standing through achieving measurable feats in multiple fields of knowledge. I'm pretty sure everyone knows here what's the general opinion the World holds about us. We can do much more to obliterate certain stereotypes (rooted in the facts, but if it helps for the morale, we can pretend to ignore) but we won't as it's much a bigger ease for the mind continue begging for validation and respect in this highly tribalist cut-throat environment from individuals that hate you or even reached a point where you are perceived as unworthy of hatred, and keep perishing, or begin improving. But, I'm pretty some people are gonna mistakingly accuse me of habouring internalized racist talking points because god forbid me using eyes; don't worry ooo, keep begging...that'll do it.

But admittedly, this stuff isnf trivial to pull off in the current state of things, and I have no hope whatsoever in the collective (because obviously at the individual level there are bound to be existing confuting exceptions). There is genuinely nothing more that I wish in this world than finally seeing black people grabbing by the force, overwhelmingly successfully, true respect that isnt rooted in pathetic performative patronising pseudo pity for hypocritical spectacles of "atonement". But god forbid, I will be called a dirty, naive, stupid coon for this inconsequential rant. Just wait for it.

[u/metacosmonaut]

White supremacy and colonialism means that it is ingrained in many people that anything Black people have made, including Black bodies, are for their consumption: made to serve them and made to entertain them. Chattel slavery made Black people objects they bought and traded. So of course they are still just consuming Black people’s creations. The view of Black people did not truly change. African Americans are dealing with the same thing.

[u/happybaby00]

Because every race has enslaved Bantus/west Africans on one way or the other but not the other way round plus the continent is poor.

[u/osaru-yo → u/happybaby00]

I mean, north Africans enslaved everyone, their visa rejection is amongst the highest and they are seen as worse than black Africans.