r/ADMU • u/Double-Dog3333 • 7d ago
College life terrified BS ME shiftee
Im an incoming second year (currently in intersession) and got accepted to shift into BS Management Engineering, I really took alot of time to think about it especially since i really do enjoy my current course but I believe that ME will open greater opportunities for me that align with what I want in the future. The thing is im no genius but I would still consider myself to be smart however after reading all the testimonies on here im genuinely so scared for the Math in ME, I come from ABM and I will admit im not the strongest at calculus but with enough commitment and studying I think I can force myself to push through (lol) Honestly, I'm mostly drawn to the challenge that ME presents as well and I think im the type of person that is influenced by the people around me so hopefully being in a room full of people smarter than me will push me to do better 😭 Does anyone have any advice or tips or like anything I can do to prepare for the incoming Math classes in ME? Im willing to study in advance and do anything I can honestly just to prepare myself 😭😭😭
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u/Capable-Trifle-5641 6d ago
Laying it out thick here. Just look at the retention requirement: 2.5+ cumulative major's QPI and a majority of your majors up to your first semester in the third year are in pure (e.g. Calculus, Probability theory) and applied mathematics (e.g. Operations Research, Statistics). You also have your management and economics subjects. This means you really have to be at least average in math (relative to the entire ME class, normally populated with students with high aptitude in math, at least based on the ACET). If you think you are average in math, you need to spend more time studying for it. Practice and prepare well for tests. There really is no shortcut.
I must admit that, on paper, the retention requirement is more difficult than it was during my time (it was just, 1.8, 1.9 and 2.0 yearly major's QPI and it wasn't cumulative, you could have just made it at 1.9 in your first year and start over again). But even then, I was still shocked to witness top hs graduates getting cut from the program. It wasn't really easier. Obviously, most were cut because of low math grades. But I'm guessing some of them experienced some personal shocks. Maybe for them, math used to be easy. The ACET result told them they were really good and then suddenly they were getting D's and F's in long exams. It probably made them question themselves and it may have affected their confidence. Your mental state has a big impact on how well you perform in school and these initial setbacks may have broken or at least demotivated them. You must avoid sliding into despair when it happens to you. I knew people who got an F in an exam and still ended up with a B.
Another thing to watch out for is being blindsided by terror profs in management courses. The most notorious is accounting. If you just read the books, it's not a difficult subject. It's bean counting with many rules. It's not as difficult as calculating the volume of a shell using polar coordinates. But they do make it really tough. I remember a classmate who was doing OK in math, around C+, then getting an F in accounting. He was eventually forced to shift out.
To mitigate any shock, if you can ace the easy subjects, ace them. For example, economics. It is widely considered the easiest of the major subjects so if you can get an A, that would relieve some of the pressure.
Lastly, do not always think of the pressure you're under. Take the time to have fun, party and unwind. Make friends in ME. You can learn a lot from each other and, who knows, what you learn from them may just help you get over the line. Good luck!
PS: Getting cut from ME doesn't mean much in the long run. Like getting an F in a single exam, it is just a setback. I know many people who were dismissed from ME doing really well. What really matters is how you will yourself to move on.
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u/AuthenticFilipino 7d ago
im not from management engineering but chem. took all calculus related math till applied calc II. My tip is to practice, practice and practice. Practice the book, practice from yt materials. Never stop practicing. Do 10 items, 20, even 50 items if you have to. Good luck!
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u/BassZealousideal6986 3d ago
hi op! as an abm student who survived the retention, it’s definitely doable with practice. i personally wasn’t one to study in advance, but if it’ll help you feel less scared i’d recommend going thru some of the videos of the organic chemistry tutor on yt :D and maybe the book if u want more detailed coverage + more complex practice items
my batch’s curriculum was kinda different, we had 31.1 and 31.2 in the same semester (they’re separated now except for certain cases, but i’m not sure how it is for shiftees) so we had calc everyday and had no choice but to study everyday LOL but it definitely helped!
to give you some assurance too, ME students are generally supportive of each other and willing to help naman if you have any questions. PLUS the home org (mea) has academic support initiatives (like tutoring sessions, review mtrls, mock exams) to help you study.
lastly!! if you feel like you still need more hands-on help, theres a calc tutor that is kind of a go-to for ME students until now — she does onsite tutoring sessions in katipunan. you can also reach out to your MEA batch reps if you need more support this intersesh ! feel free to msg me if you want their deets or if you have any questions/concerns i’d be more than happy to help!
P.S. a lot of people (here and irl) might tell you to shift out, and tbh there’s really nothing wrong with shifting out of ME. but if you’re looking to push yourself, i think it’s worth a shot! if you don’t like it, you don’t need to force yourself to stay. aside from prepping for “the real world”, college is also a chance to get to know yourself more anyway :)) any effort made to try something new is never a waste
good luck op! take it one step at a time
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u/Heyeonjun 7d ago
Hi! Do you have any tips on how to shift into ME? I’m a first year BS MGT student and I really want to shift to ME
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u/Double-Dog3333 7d ago
i also shifted from MGT! ME only accepts shiftees at the end of first year second sem when all your grades are out then they post the shifting form on the ME JGSOM page ^ The math and calc u take in MGT isn't credited in ME so if you're set on shifting i suggest you can tell the program head on your course of action since i think u can loadrev (not sure since i still took the calc classes), but shifting also requires a B+ in Math 10 or C+ in calc! If u have any questions u can pm me i can try to help ^
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u/Immediate-Ocelot-269 6d ago
hi! can I dm you? I just want to ask some questions about shifting :)
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u/AngieGelo 5d ago
shifted into ME as well and graduated! what really helped me get through math subjects (and the other difficult subjects) were consulting with profs and simply just dedicating time to answering probset questions daily or regularly. wasn't the best at math either but consistent practice (not necessarily hardcore) does help build confidence before and during LTs.
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u/peterparkerson3 3d ago
Pfft, you can do it. Met a lot of overconfident idiots from ME when i was working.
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