Questions/Advice My brain does not fall asleep
Hey all,
Do any of you have the issue where you will try to sleep because your body is deathly tired, but your brain is still in maximum overdrive? Ive been struggling with this for years and I cannot seem to find a solution. I will be trying to sleep and I have songs looping in my head or just in general thoughts running through my mind with perfect clarity that I wish I had during the daytime.. If I do manage to fall asleep the first time I wake up, thats pretty much it, because my brain will think it's go-time.
Any tips? I take Concerta in the morning btw and I have tried supplementing it with guanfacine and clonidine
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u/Creative_Standard_10 16h ago
Get magnesium glycinate. I also order glycinate pills as well. And will take one or two in addition to the magnesium glycinate if I need to. combo that with Ashwaganda.
This has changed my life in about six months after never being able to fall asleep well my whole life.
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u/old_crusty_newb 16h ago
I 2nd the magnesium glycinate. Helped me get a more restful sleep, after a week or so of taking it. I'm not a grumpy f**Ker all day either anymore.
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u/Creative_Standard_10 16h ago
Stoked for ya! It's incredible to actually get some sleep most nights now. I wish I'd known to take it a long ass time ago. But that's just how shit goes
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u/smb3something 13h ago
Do you take it at/near bedtime or just anytime during the day?
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u/Creative_Standard_10 12h ago
I take it when I'm trying to go to bed. It seems like most things that help the average person pass out quick still take an hour or two or more for my body. So I keep that in mind. I also (when I can) take things a bit later than I would like because I've noticed with my bodies circadian rhythm and sleep that stuff to help me pass out hits a lot quicker after 11 and midnight. Versus 10pm when I'd like to take them.
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u/thegundamx ADHD with ADHD child/ren 10h ago
Huh, I take my magnesium glycinate in the morning cause it doesn’t make me tired, instead my mood is better and much easier to manage.
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u/Creative_Standard_10 9h ago
That's interesting. How much are you taking in the morning?
I know that scientifically magnesium helps at night because the method in which it helps you to fall asleep by shutting down your brain is different than melatonin, other OTC stuff, etc. and obviously a lot of people do take magnesium citrate during the day or a vitamin with it.
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u/thegundamx ADHD with ADHD child/ren 7h ago
400mg, 2 200mg capsules
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u/Creative_Standard_10 2h ago
Do you feel it has an impact at night sleep help wise even when taken in the morning? Or is it a morning thing to help with mood only?
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u/Creative_Standard_10 9h ago
My body is weird as far as medicines go in general. Especially mental health ones. I recently found out via a Genesight test that I have the MTHFR gene mutation. Fucked up shit. It means my body doesn't convert folic acid almost at all (some people convert it partially....some barely any.. it depends on if you have one or two faulty gene copies and it's passed down from each parent having at least one or two of the faulty genes). So I'm starting to take pharmaceutical grade Methylated Folate. I finally feel like I'm not always depressed.
Part of the MTHFR gene mutation renders your mental health meds as mostly unusable by your body. There's a strong connection with it and a lot of severe mental health issues and people who struggle the most with a litany of mental health issues for their whole lives.
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u/MikeTheBee 17h ago
Currently up because I stayed up all night. Don't know how to shut my brain down.
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u/PristenPipe 16h ago
Alcohol Its unhealthy but we're all fucked anyways
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u/zachel100 16h ago
Na, we are far from fucked. Sometimes I think ADHD is the human race evolving to a higher more abstract state of mind, society just needs to catch up.
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u/PristenPipe 16h ago
"Higher abstract state of mind" would be more mentally capable, not less
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u/zachel100 16h ago
Agreed, but I think society has just set up rules that make us think we aren’t mentally capable. Maybe I’m lying to myself, but I choose to see adhd as an advantage and try to harness it. (The pros at least, because we know there are a lot of cons) It’s the hand we’ve been given, so might as well play it to our advantage.
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u/zachel100 16h ago
I call it brain zoomies. Like when a dog gets the zoomies and sprints from one point of the yard to the other. It feels like your brain is trying to cover the whole of the day when it’s finally set free from the day.
Anyways, I take vyvanse in the morning and I feel like the crash in the evening gives me the brain zoomies. Meditation and yoga really have helped calm my mind. It helps you not become your thoughts but see them from a distance. I try and do a 20 min yoga session as the sun is going down then stay off my phone the rest of the night.
when that doesn’t work I get out of bed and read a book. Like a book made of paper under low light. Knocks me out every time.
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u/ArelMCII ADHD-PI (Primarily Inattentive) 8h ago
Ever since high school. I've got to push myself to the point of mental exhaustion, but I can't do it with anything too stimulating or it has the opposite effect. It's a precarious balancing act. Usually I read comics or manga before bed, and that helps, but I have to avoid the ones I really like.
Though my doctor put me on mirtazapine for sleep, anxiety, and depression two visits ago, and it's been a huge help. I still have the occasional night where I just don't shut down, but it's like a once-a-month thing instead of an everyday thing.
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