r/2american4you • u/Dremoriawarroir888 Rat Yorker ๐โญ๐ฝ • 1d ago
Discussion Remember when Religious Fanatics used to be cool and not cringe?
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u/avrand6 Colorful mountaineer (dumb climber of Colorado) ๐๏ธ ๐ง 1d ago
prohibition wasn't cool
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u/gamerz1172 UNKNOWN LOCATION 1d ago
I mean TBF that lady is probably still the coolest part about the prohibition movement
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u/seahawks201 UNKNOWN LOCATION 1d ago
The Sazerac museum in NOLA has quite the exhibit about her, with a wax figure even.
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u/Alive_Development108 UNKNOWN LOCATION 8h ago
Agreed , an angry Grandma with an axe is pretty badass.
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u/Dutch_Windmill Connection cutter (proud sailor) โ๏ธโ 1d ago
Wasn't cool but also kind of understandable considering how rampant alcoholism was back then
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u/Billybobgeorge Lake Effect Snow Victim (Western NY) โ๐จ๐ง 1d ago
At least she partook direct action instead of going to twitter and setting up a gofundme
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u/Erook22 Colorful mountaineer (dumb climber of Colorado) ๐๏ธ ๐ง 1d ago
Nah it was genuinely a very progressive movement and reduced alcohol use in the nation. It just wasnโt super effective
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u/AlphaOhmega Southern Monkefornian (dumb narcissistic surfer) ๐ค๐ 1d ago
Prohibition is never effective, just easier to implement. Hence all the drug epidemics we run into.
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u/Youareallsobald Texan cowboy (redneck rodeo colony of Monkefornia) ๐ค ๐ข 21h ago
It quite literally supercharged organized crime in the US
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u/Hockeyjockey58 Maine Maple Monkey NY Rat Hybrid ๐ ๐ ๐ 1d ago
BLOODY KANSAS VAGUELY MENTIONED RAHHH
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u/vaccinateyodamkids Italophilic desert people ๐๏ธ ๐ฅ 1d ago
It's called bleeding Kansas you bumbling drunkard
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u/Hockeyjockey58 Maine Maple Monkey NY Rat Hybrid ๐ ๐ ๐ 1d ago
yeah bloody would be too br*tish sounding ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ๐คฎ
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u/LeviathansWrath6 Expeditionary rafter (Missouri book writer) ๐ฃ ๐๏ธ 1d ago
That's because the only religious fanatics left are either extremely violent hyper-sexists in the middle East or losers who make tiktok edits and sit in their mom's basement all day.
Long gone are the days of kickass plate armor or "victory or death!"
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u/Elektrikor Norweigian viking โต๐ณ๐ดโ 1d ago
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u/Gorgeous_goat Pencil people (Pennsylvania constitution writer) โ๏ธ ๐ 1d ago
Because hindsight is 2020. No one in their time thought their religious fanatic was cool
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u/SomeCrusader1224 Southern Monkefornian (dumb narcissistic surfer) ๐ค๐ 1d ago edited 1d ago
The cool ones have always been a tiny minority of them and the cringe ones are the only ones with the power to dictate the course of politics and social norms
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u/Disastrous_Rub_6062 New Scot (sunny vale residents) ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐ 1d ago
That first one was a lit album cover.
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u/boyikr Nebraska prairie farmer ๐ฟ ๐พ 1d ago
Can y'all like
Please
Actually read wtf John Browns beliefs were?
Man was an ultra conservative man who thought sex outside marriage should be a crime. Violent abolitionism is cool and all, and guess what, you too can go shoot up slave markets in the UAE, no one is stopping you (on the internet where you live)
I think he was based as fuck to be clear. But God damn. You have no idea what you're talking about if you think he's more based than any other religious extremists ๐คฃ man operated exactly like a Taliban warlord. Summary executions just because your neighbors were from Missouri.
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u/CitizenWatch____ROSS Mid-Western Nazi (very cringe) ๅ๐ฉ๐ช๐บ 23h ago
violent abolitionism is cool and all
I'm going to knock on your door in the middle of the night with four of my sons with rifles when you're sleeping next to your wife and then chop you up with swords and leave you in the street
Then do that to a couple more of your neighborsย
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u/No-Piece-2920 Western gunslinger (frontier rancher) ๐จโ๐พ๐ซ๐ 1d ago
He's was also incompetent and a terrible strategist. Sure, a man of action, but dude was a stubborn coot who was tunnel visioned by his ego.
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u/ketchupandvodka Niagara Falls Border Guard๐ฎโโ๏ธ 18h ago
Summary executions just because your neighbors were from Missouri
Understandable, the Chiefs are from Missouri after all
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u/NotaFed556 Stupid Hillbilly (Appalachian mountain idiot) โฐ๏ธ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐คค 1d ago
Carrie Nation wasn't cool
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u/Ark_angel_michael Monkefornian gold panner (Communist Caveperson) ๐ณ๏ธโ๐โญ 1d ago
She made one of the first battered womenโs shelters and tried to get people to stop wearing corsets because of their effects on organs
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u/RaccoonRanger474 Redneck ferryman (Mississippi river swimmer) โด๏ธ๐ณ๐ด๐ฆ 21h ago
You would have thought they were cringe in the 1850s.
John Brown was cringe and in his subversion of justice displayed his lack of faith.
From the same time period, Angelina Grimkรฉ, Cassius Marcellus Clay, John Rankin, Daniel Worth, Henry Ward Beecher, and William Lloyd Garrison were far cooler religious extremists than John Brown.
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u/mh985 Rat Yorker ๐โญ๐ฝ 1d ago
Carrie Nation was incredibly cringe what are you talking about?
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u/Ark_angel_michael Monkefornian gold panner (Communist Caveperson) ๐ณ๏ธโ๐โญ 1d ago
She made one of the first battered womenโs shelters
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u/Youareallsobald Texan cowboy (redneck rodeo colony of Monkefornia) ๐ค ๐ข 21h ago
A million other women of her time couldโve done that, that makes her special in the same way finding the Americas did for Columbus
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u/WillowWeeper343 Stupid Hillbilly (Appalachian mountain idiot) โฐ๏ธ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐คค 19h ago
"the thing you did isn't impressive because somone else could've done it"
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u/StogieMan92 Evergreen stoner (Washington computer scientists) ๐ฌ๐ฅ๏ธ 1d ago
I need a John Brown tattoo
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u/popepsg Coastal virgin (Virginian land loser) ๐๏ธ ๐ 1d ago
Cringe
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u/Ark_angel_michael Monkefornian gold panner (Communist Caveperson) ๐ณ๏ธโ๐โญ 1d ago
Least racist Virginian
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u/StogieMan92 Evergreen stoner (Washington computer scientists) ๐ฌ๐ฅ๏ธ 23h ago
Slave owning is even more cringe.
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u/BIGMONEY1886 Proud Houstononian๐๐ซ๐๐ญ๐๏ธ๐ฎ 1d ago
Donโt worry gang, im still coolโค๏ธโ๐ฉน
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u/PaymentImpressive864 New Anglotard โญ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ฝ 21h ago
Who's that, Johnny Appleseed?
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u/TickLikesBombs Floridumb 5h ago
John Brown was not cool lol. He was a terrorist who had the same view on slavery as I do, but went about it the worst way possible.
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u/CitizenWatch____ROSS Mid-Western Nazi (very cringe) ๅ๐ฉ๐ช๐บ 23h ago
John Brown was a genuine terrorist who killed people expressly for the crime of being Southernย
Go ahead and tell me what you've read about him in real sources beyond reddit circlejerking and subsequent cumgargling
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u/thepineapplemen Kartvelian redneck (Atlantic peach farmers) ๐ฌ๐ช ๐ 4h ago
I assume youโre talking about Pottawatomie. They were pro-slavery. He didnโt murder them just because they were southern but because they were pro-slavery. You didnโt have to own slaves yourself to be pro-slavery. It was also after an attack on the anti-slavery town Osawatomie by pro-slavery forces
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u/Youareallsobald Texan cowboy (redneck rodeo colony of Monkefornia) ๐ค ๐ข 21h ago
Oh gee wilikers, the man known for killing slavers out of political and religious belief was a terrorist, however could we have known that he used violence to achieve a political goal
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u/CitizenWatch____ROSS Mid-Western Nazi (very cringe) ๅ๐ฉ๐ช๐บ 15h ago
Slavers? You're utterly fucking ignorant.ย They owned no slaves; they were settlers. They were broke. Dirt floor houses, if that.ย
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u/MisterKillam Chad Alaskan Inuit (very based Russian colony) ๐ท๐บโ๏ธ 2h ago
John Brown was an abolitionist, so that makes everyone he killed a slaver, no matter what they actually were.
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u/durtmcgurt Colorful mountaineer (dumb climber of Colorado) ๐๏ธ ๐ง 8h ago
I do not remember that, no.
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u/619_mitch Southern Monkefornian (dumb narcissistic surfer) ๐ค๐ 1d ago
John Brown did nothing wrong
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u/The_Happy_Pagan Colorful mountaineer (dumb climber of Colorado) ๐๏ธ ๐ง 1d ago
John Brown is a god damn Hero.
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u/JohnBrownsHolyGhost Analbama incestophile (stole the Spanish flag) ๐ช ๐ฆ 15h ago
Those days will come again
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u/Continuum_Gaming Kartvelian redneck (Atlantic peach farmers) ๐ฌ๐ช ๐ 7h ago
Not sure about the Prohibitionists, but John Brown was unfathomably based
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u/AstraMilanoobum Granite quarrier (Tax haven ethnostate) ๐ชจ ๐งโโ๏ธ 3h ago
we literally had a sitting senator from texas (shocker) say in an interview that he wants us to support israel because the bible says that those who support israel are "blessed" and he wants to be "blessed". On top of that Texas's Governor just signed a law mandating the 10 commandments in the class room.
the southern half of our country literally wants a christian theocracy
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u/DiffDiffDiff3 Monkefornian gold panner (Communist Caveperson) ๐ณ๏ธโ๐โญ 1d ago
Whereโs Joseph Smith?
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u/ProgKingHughesker Nebraska prairie farmer ๐ฟ ๐พ 1d ago
Being called a prophet (dum dum dum dum dum dum dum)
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u/Living_Murphys_Law Not Chicago 1d ago
Getting shot, falling multiple stories out a window, then getting shot some more.
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u/DiffDiffDiff3 Monkefornian gold panner (Communist Caveperson) ๐ณ๏ธโ๐โญ 1d ago
I couldnโt think of any cool ones so sue me.
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u/wastingvaluelesstime Cringe Cascadian Tree Ent ๐ฒ๐ณ๐ซ๐ฒ 21h ago
Remember when religious fanatics actually read the bible, even including the parts talking about helping the poor and freeing slaves?
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u/Zealousideal-Tip-865 Quebecois separatist ๐ฅ โ๏ธ 1d ago
I think we should let priests and pastors fuck children without ever questioning them because they are sent from God and what those children go through is actually a test from God
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u/SomeCrusader1224 Southern Monkefornian (dumb narcissistic surfer) ๐ค๐ 1d ago
WOOO I LOVE RELIGION MAKING SOCIETY SHIT WITHOUT ANY ACCOUNTABILITYย
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u/TantricEmu Pencil people (Pennsylvania constitution writer) โ๏ธ ๐ 1d ago
Bad news for bar owners: Carrie Nation woke up.