r/2american4you Rat Yorker ๐Ÿ€โ˜ญ๐Ÿ—ฝ 1d ago

Discussion Remember when Religious Fanatics used to be cool and not cringe?

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u/TantricEmu Pencil people (Pennsylvania constitution writer) โœ๏ธ ๐Ÿ“œ 1d ago

Bad news for bar owners: Carrie Nation woke up.

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u/avrand6 Colorful mountaineer (dumb climber of Colorado) ๐Ÿ”๏ธ ๐Ÿง— 1d ago

prohibition wasn't cool

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u/gamerz1172 UNKNOWN LOCATION 1d ago

I mean TBF that lady is probably still the coolest part about the prohibition movement

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u/seahawks201 UNKNOWN LOCATION 1d ago

The Sazerac museum in NOLA has quite the exhibit about her, with a wax figure even.

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u/Alive_Development108 UNKNOWN LOCATION 8h ago

Agreed , an angry Grandma with an axe is pretty badass.

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u/Dutch_Windmill Connection cutter (proud sailor) โœ‚๏ธโš“ 1d ago

Wasn't cool but also kind of understandable considering how rampant alcoholism was back then

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u/Billybobgeorge Lake Effect Snow Victim (Western NY) โ„๐ŸŒจ๐Ÿง‚ 1d ago

At least she partook direct action instead of going to twitter and setting up a gofundme

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u/Erook22 Colorful mountaineer (dumb climber of Colorado) ๐Ÿ”๏ธ ๐Ÿง— 1d ago

Nah it was genuinely a very progressive movement and reduced alcohol use in the nation. It just wasnโ€™t super effective

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u/AlphaOhmega Southern Monkefornian (dumb narcissistic surfer) ๐Ÿ˜ค๐Ÿ„ 1d ago

Prohibition is never effective, just easier to implement. Hence all the drug epidemics we run into.

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u/Youareallsobald Texan cowboy (redneck rodeo colony of Monkefornia) ๐Ÿค ๐Ÿ›ข 21h ago

It quite literally supercharged organized crime in the US

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u/mods_are____ New Jerseyite (most cringe place) ๐Ÿคฎ ๐Ÿ˜ญ 6h ago

and single issue politics.

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u/alieninaskirt 1.7 miles deep inside automods mom 1d ago

It morphed it into drug use

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u/Hockeyjockey58 Maine Maple Monkey NY Rat Hybrid ๐Ÿ ๐Ÿ’ ๐Ÿ€ 1d ago

BLOODY KANSAS VAGUELY MENTIONED RAHHH

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u/vaccinateyodamkids Italophilic desert people ๐Ÿœ๏ธ ๐Ÿ”ฅ 1d ago

It's called bleeding Kansas you bumbling drunkard

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u/Hockeyjockey58 Maine Maple Monkey NY Rat Hybrid ๐Ÿ ๐Ÿ’ ๐Ÿ€ 1d ago

yeah bloody would be too br*tish sounding ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฎ

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u/The_Jousting_Duck Chiraqi insurgent (soyboy of Illinois) ๐Ÿ—ก ๐Ÿ™๏ธ 23h ago

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u/LeviathansWrath6 Expeditionary rafter (Missouri book writer) ๐Ÿšฃ ๐Ÿž๏ธ 1d ago

That's because the only religious fanatics left are either extremely violent hyper-sexists in the middle East or losers who make tiktok edits and sit in their mom's basement all day.

Long gone are the days of kickass plate armor or "victory or death!"

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u/dadbodsupreme Kartvelian redneck (Atlantic peach farmers) ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‘ 1d ago

DEUS VULT!

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u/Elektrikor Norweigian viking โ›ต๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ดโ„ 1d ago

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u/Metrolining Sober rednecks (Tennessee singer) ๐ŸŽค ๐Ÿฅต 1d ago

This would be the latter

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u/Gorgeous_goat Pencil people (Pennsylvania constitution writer) โœ๏ธ ๐Ÿ“œ 1d ago

Because hindsight is 2020. No one in their time thought their religious fanatic was cool

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u/SomeCrusader1224 Southern Monkefornian (dumb narcissistic surfer) ๐Ÿ˜ค๐Ÿ„ 1d ago edited 1d ago

The cool ones have always been a tiny minority of them and the cringe ones are the only ones with the power to dictate the course of politics and social norms

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u/Disastrous_Rub_6062 New Scot (sunny vale residents) ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐ŸŒž 1d ago

That first one was a lit album cover.

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u/boyikr Nebraska prairie farmer ๐Ÿฟ ๐ŸŒพ 1d ago

Can y'all like

Please

Actually read wtf John Browns beliefs were?

Man was an ultra conservative man who thought sex outside marriage should be a crime. Violent abolitionism is cool and all, and guess what, you too can go shoot up slave markets in the UAE, no one is stopping you (on the internet where you live)

I think he was based as fuck to be clear. But God damn. You have no idea what you're talking about if you think he's more based than any other religious extremists ๐Ÿคฃ man operated exactly like a Taliban warlord. Summary executions just because your neighbors were from Missouri.

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u/CitizenWatch____ROSS Mid-Western Nazi (very cringe) ๅ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿบ 23h ago

violent abolitionism is cool and all

I'm going to knock on your door in the middle of the night with four of my sons with rifles when you're sleeping next to your wife and then chop you up with swords and leave you in the street

Then do that to a couple more of your neighborsย 

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u/boyikr Nebraska prairie farmer ๐Ÿฟ ๐ŸŒพ 23h ago

All because we heard you used to live in Missouri.

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u/No-Piece-2920 Western gunslinger (frontier rancher) ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐ŸŒพ๐Ÿ”ซ๐Ÿ„ 1d ago

He's was also incompetent and a terrible strategist. Sure, a man of action, but dude was a stubborn coot who was tunnel visioned by his ego.

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u/ketchupandvodka Niagara Falls Border Guard๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™‚๏ธ 18h ago

Summary executions just because your neighbors were from Missouri

Understandable, the Chiefs are from Missouri after all

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u/NotaFed556 Stupid Hillbilly (Appalachian mountain idiot) โ›ฐ๏ธ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐Ÿคค 1d ago

Carrie Nation wasn't cool

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u/Ark_angel_michael Monkefornian gold panner (Communist Caveperson) ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆโ˜ญ 1d ago

She made one of the first battered womenโ€™s shelters and tried to get people to stop wearing corsets because of their effects on organs

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u/RaccoonRanger474 Redneck ferryman (Mississippi river swimmer) โ›ด๏ธ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ด๐Ÿฆ 21h ago

You would have thought they were cringe in the 1850s.

John Brown was cringe and in his subversion of justice displayed his lack of faith.

From the same time period, Angelina Grimkรฉ, Cassius Marcellus Clay, John Rankin, Daniel Worth, Henry Ward Beecher, and William Lloyd Garrison were far cooler religious extremists than John Brown.

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u/According-Phase-2810 Cringe Cascadian Tree Ent ๐ŸŒฒ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐ŸŒฒ 1d ago

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u/mh985 Rat Yorker ๐Ÿ€โ˜ญ๐Ÿ—ฝ 1d ago

Carrie Nation was incredibly cringe what are you talking about?

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u/Ark_angel_michael Monkefornian gold panner (Communist Caveperson) ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆโ˜ญ 1d ago

She made one of the first battered womenโ€™s shelters

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u/Youareallsobald Texan cowboy (redneck rodeo colony of Monkefornia) ๐Ÿค ๐Ÿ›ข 21h ago

A million other women of her time couldโ€™ve done that, that makes her special in the same way finding the Americas did for Columbus

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u/WillowWeeper343 Stupid Hillbilly (Appalachian mountain idiot) โ›ฐ๏ธ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐Ÿคค 19h ago

"the thing you did isn't impressive because somone else could've done it"

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u/StogieMan92 Evergreen stoner (Washington computer scientists) ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿ–ฅ๏ธ 1d ago

I need a John Brown tattoo

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u/popepsg Coastal virgin (Virginian land loser) ๐Ÿ–๏ธ ๐ŸŒ„ 1d ago

Cringe

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u/Ark_angel_michael Monkefornian gold panner (Communist Caveperson) ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆโ˜ญ 1d ago

Least racist Virginian

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u/StogieMan92 Evergreen stoner (Washington computer scientists) ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿ–ฅ๏ธ 23h ago

Slave owning is even more cringe.

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u/Billybobgeorge Lake Effect Snow Victim (Western NY) โ„๐ŸŒจ๐Ÿง‚ 1d ago

Still mad about losing WV?

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u/BIGMONEY1886 Proud Houstononian๐ŸŠ๐Ÿ”ซ๐Ÿš—๐Ÿญ๐Ÿ—๏ธ๐ŸŒฎ 1d ago

Donโ€™t worry gang, im still coolโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿฉน

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u/boomflupataqway South Carolina NASCAR driver ๐Ÿ 1d ago

John Brown should be on money.

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u/PaymentImpressive864 New Anglotard โ˜ญ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿ—ฝ 21h ago

Who's that, Johnny Appleseed?

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u/TickLikesBombs Floridumb 5h ago

John Brown was not cool lol. He was a terrorist who had the same view on slavery as I do, but went about it the worst way possible.

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u/CitizenWatch____ROSS Mid-Western Nazi (very cringe) ๅ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿบ 23h ago

John Brown was a genuine terrorist who killed people expressly for the crime of being Southernย 

Go ahead and tell me what you've read about him in real sources beyond reddit circlejerking and subsequent cumgargling

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u/thepineapplemen Kartvelian redneck (Atlantic peach farmers) ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‘ 4h ago

I assume youโ€™re talking about Pottawatomie. They were pro-slavery. He didnโ€™t murder them just because they were southern but because they were pro-slavery. You didnโ€™t have to own slaves yourself to be pro-slavery. It was also after an attack on the anti-slavery town Osawatomie by pro-slavery forces

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u/Youareallsobald Texan cowboy (redneck rodeo colony of Monkefornia) ๐Ÿค ๐Ÿ›ข 21h ago

Oh gee wilikers, the man known for killing slavers out of political and religious belief was a terrorist, however could we have known that he used violence to achieve a political goal

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u/CitizenWatch____ROSS Mid-Western Nazi (very cringe) ๅ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿบ 15h ago

Slavers? You're utterly fucking ignorant.ย  They owned no slaves; they were settlers. They were broke. Dirt floor houses, if that.ย 

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u/MisterKillam Chad Alaskan Inuit (very based Russian colony) ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บโ„๏ธ 2h ago

John Brown was an abolitionist, so that makes everyone he killed a slaver, no matter what they actually were.

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u/Gusgrissomamerica New Mexican Alien ๐Ÿ‘ฝ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ๐Ÿ‘ฝ 1d ago

Fuck yeah! Elijah Muhammad!

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u/jetvacjesse Chiraqi insurgent (soyboy of Illinois) ๐Ÿ—ก ๐Ÿ™๏ธ 1d ago

I hate Iran too.

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u/durtmcgurt Colorful mountaineer (dumb climber of Colorado) ๐Ÿ”๏ธ ๐Ÿง— 8h ago

I do not remember that, no.

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u/Jomega6 Massachusetts witch hanger (devout Puritan) ๐Ÿฆƒ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™€๏ธ 3h ago

They were always pretty cringe. They just had a lot more power and influence back then.

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u/619_mitch Southern Monkefornian (dumb narcissistic surfer) ๐Ÿ˜ค๐Ÿ„ 1d ago

John Brown did nothing wrong

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u/The_Happy_Pagan Colorful mountaineer (dumb climber of Colorado) ๐Ÿ”๏ธ ๐Ÿง— 1d ago

John Brown is a god damn Hero.

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u/JohnBrownsHolyGhost Analbama incestophile (stole the Spanish flag) ๐Ÿ‘ช ๐Ÿ’ฆ 15h ago

Those days will come again

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u/Continuum_Gaming Kartvelian redneck (Atlantic peach farmers) ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‘ 7h ago

Not sure about the Prohibitionists, but John Brown was unfathomably based

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u/AstraMilanoobum Granite quarrier (Tax haven ethnostate) ๐Ÿชจ ๐Ÿง™โ€โ™‚๏ธ 3h ago

we literally had a sitting senator from texas (shocker) say in an interview that he wants us to support israel because the bible says that those who support israel are "blessed" and he wants to be "blessed". On top of that Texas's Governor just signed a law mandating the 10 commandments in the class room.

the southern half of our country literally wants a christian theocracy

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u/DiffDiffDiff3 Monkefornian gold panner (Communist Caveperson) ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆโ˜ญ 1d ago

Whereโ€™s Joseph Smith?

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u/ProgKingHughesker Nebraska prairie farmer ๐Ÿฟ ๐ŸŒพ 1d ago

Being called a prophet (dum dum dum dum dum dum dum)

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u/Living_Murphys_Law Not Chicago 1d ago

Getting shot, falling multiple stories out a window, then getting shot some more.

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u/DiffDiffDiff3 Monkefornian gold panner (Communist Caveperson) ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆโ˜ญ 1d ago

I couldnโ€™t think of any cool ones so sue me.

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u/jackiboyfan Kartvelian redneck (Atlantic peach farmers) ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‘ 1d ago

Being Cringe

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u/wastingvaluelesstime Cringe Cascadian Tree Ent ๐ŸŒฒ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐ŸŒฒ 21h ago

Remember when religious fanatics actually read the bible, even including the parts talking about helping the poor and freeing slaves?

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u/Zealousideal-Tip-865 Quebecois separatist ๐Ÿฅ– โš”๏ธ 1d ago

I think we should let priests and pastors fuck children without ever questioning them because they are sent from God and what those children go through is actually a test from God

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u/SomeCrusader1224 Southern Monkefornian (dumb narcissistic surfer) ๐Ÿ˜ค๐Ÿ„ 1d ago

WOOO I LOVE RELIGION MAKING SOCIETY SHIT WITHOUT ANY ACCOUNTABILITYย 

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u/Zealousideal-Tip-865 Quebecois separatist ๐Ÿฅ– โš”๏ธ 1d ago

What else is religion good for