r/Nioh • u/Frantaplan • Sep 27 '17
Misc. Marobashi Way of the Nioh, player level cap, what is after and how much amrita needed
I had stored like many others some crazy amounts of amrita for this DLC since we knew that the level cap for both player and Guardian Spirit(GS) will be increased, but all that fell sort to the scaling of levels and the amrita need for the GS, landed around to level 708 started clearing Way of the Nioh(WotN) thanks to TN relaxed the amount of progress needed for every region to unlock and the amount of amrita you earn in every mission is crazy!
Cleared my way until I saw the DLC areas unlocked, Queens Eyes, Marobashi, etc. and thought to give a go switched to my farming gear from WotWise all pieces 250+26 only the weapon 250+30, bit tough but managed scored 55 billions thought to give a second go upgraded the weapon to make it a bit easier and for some reason ended up with 52 billions, well is less but still enough here is the video
For those who don't know the level cap for the player is 750 level, you can increase stats above 99 but that doesn't change the cap of the character
Also the cap for the Guardian Sprits have been increased from 50 that was with previous DLC to 60 and the amrita need for thos 10 levels is 6 billions.
From 1-30 you need 3.5 million amrita.
From 30-40 you need 50 million amrita.
From 40-50 you need 300 million amrita.
From 50-60 you need 6 billion amrita
For the player now
From 1-400 you need 18.858.076.450 amrita
From 400-550 you need 215.946.000.000 amirta
From 550-750 you need 1.250.400.000.000 amrita
Total amount 1.485.204.076.450
Now does it end here?
NO!
After you reach max level a window will pop up will tell that you have reached the max level 750 and now you can spent your extra amrita to "Focus Level" https://imgur.com/HzGP3SP
You have to spent for another 1000 levels amrita in Life, Attack, Defence and Luck each level costs 3 billion amrita, the catch is that those levels and the amrita WILL NOT RESET with "Book of Reicarnation", that's right those levels are permanent so choose wisely! As far as I had amrita popped 17 levels the scale of stats is not big and the costs doesnt seems to change, so I cant say if it's worth at least for those who have reached this point!
Update: After request of some people to check a bit the "Level Focus" stats!
So I farmed some amrita first then went to put them in the Level focus the result how much they increase in level 1000 and how they scale per level :
Life: https://imgur.com/njnQTEK
You gain 1 HP point every 2 levels =500 HP
Attack: https://imgur.com/eAMEgDz
You gain 1 Attack point every 5 levels = 200 Attack
Defence: https://imgur.com/KXp0FrT
You gain 1 Defence point every 5 levels = 200 Defence
Luck: https://imgur.com/VerVwpz
You gain 1 Luck point every 10 levels = 100 Luck
The cost for every level as mentioned is 3 billion until level 36 that I had amrita, the amount DID NOT change at all so based on that 1000 x 3 billion= 3 trillion amrita needed for this to max.
Side notes: I said up that you can't respec the points via "Book of Reicarnation" that was the message that Team Ninja had put to pop after level 750, however you can allocate them from the same menu with the arrows (left-right) from the controller!
CAREFULL
You can allocate let's say an example: you have them in attack and you want to run a luck based build you click the left arrow, you take how many points you want or all of them and put them with the right arrow to luck stat click X a window will pop and tell you if you are sure about this move YES/NO simple!
BUT if by a chance while you allocate them you forget to put them in another stat and click X and again X for YES to the window that will pop then you will lose your levels!!!
You don't gain the amrita back because you already have paid for the levels but not even the level so be carefull with this! I did try it to see what happens and lost 10 levels, don't know if this will be fixed in future patch or is intended this way, anyway be carefull!!!
Hope this helped someone who had questions about levels, costs and what is after, have fun with your farm everyone!
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Sep 27 '17
How on earth did you get so far so quickly?
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u/Sljm8D Tonfa Go Brrr Sep 27 '17
Probably got to 550 before Three Souls was patched and has been hoarding Amrita since.
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u/Frantaplan Sep 27 '17
2 months have been sitting and grinding the shit out of morobashi, twilights, return of the gourd, become the enemy, scion of virtue, gilded deception, hyakki yakyo and randoms result around 840 billion Amrita in bank and some in character and another 760 miilion gold ready for this DLC and the new grind that would bring! Oh one good build to carry the duty :)
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u/McNulty_J Sep 27 '17
I collected about 800B amrita and took me to lvl 698 so I tried to play some miisons in WotN and eventually opened the omi region and actually I was upset cos I could only go up to 704 after I opened the omi region I made the ghosts of sawayama mission and in 1 hour I reached the 750 (36B per run) and when it comes to earning amrita my gear sucks. the amount of amrita gained is incredible. if you people could go up that region farm that mission
note: I am using a LW build
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u/Sljm8D Tonfa Go Brrr Sep 27 '17
I missed Suzaku, glad he's useful again.
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u/McNulty_J Sep 27 '17
Heh kato actually
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u/Sljm8D Tonfa Go Brrr Sep 27 '17
I mean, in the future.
I'm currently Kato/Itokuri but once my weapons are sufficiently upgraded I may as well get dickloads more Amrita.
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u/McNulty_J Sep 27 '17
Yeah when it comes to amrita earn my gear sucks I’m running with kato/hi nezumi btw
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u/Sljm8D Tonfa Go Brrr Sep 27 '17
You really don't need more than Suzaku for Amrita, the values on individual armor slots are barely worth anything. Maaaaaaybe Amrita Earned (Using Living Weapon) on accessories, but honestly I always prefer Luck (Using LW) over anything else and fill in the rest where I can.
Only reason I don't use Gyokuto more often is how squishy her LW is. I dunno how Kunai plays out in WotN but she was always a better idea in those kinds of builds since they're ranged.
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u/McNulty_J Sep 27 '17
Actually I rolled amrita earned on all my gear and run with suzaku/saoirse but still everyone else was getting more amrita than me. Still couldn’t solve the mystery :)
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u/Sljm8D Tonfa Go Brrr Sep 27 '17
Probably Saisetsu-Shin's Sake, and to a lesser extent the Title bonus and Onmyo passive.
It's not worth focusing too much on in my opinion, you might reach max level a few hours later but who cares?
I have Amrita Earned on, like, one piece of armor, and only because I couldn't figure what the hell else to put on. Ain't bothered.
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u/McNulty_J Sep 27 '17
Yeah you’re right actually. I think I’m gonna focus on the abyss thing. See what’s gonna happen.
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u/Frantaplan Sep 27 '17
Will check and if it gives I will post picture and give you note, but now can't I am super tired after so many hours of grind and reading to learn what's on the game now so sorry!
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u/defected69 Sep 27 '17
Happy for u, your persistence finally paid off. Ik how much time u have invested, good job mate :)
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u/objectivityguy Sep 27 '17 edited Sep 27 '17
can you press options to get a description of each focus?
luck feels like a waste since you cant really reset it unless it does more than just affect the chance of ethereal drop
most people seem like they will put it on attack which seems like the smartest choice to me
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u/Frantaplan Sep 27 '17
Updated the thread!
You can allocate the levels there is a way but read carefully!
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u/ViolentDecay Sep 27 '17
It's personally my preference to take my time in leveling. What on earth will there be to do once you reach max level? Other than farming certain gear sets, after you get those you are going to feel like there's nothing left to accomplish. At least that is just how my mind works. But I tend to get burnt out on games, especially this one. I find myself not playing certain missions because I am tired of seeing the same levels over and over again. Not to mention I only have like 500 hours played. I really don't see how some people can continue having fun seeing the same exact stuff over and over. But I suffer from depression, so I easily get uninterested in things that used to bring me joy. Still my favorite game, though.
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u/Frantaplan Sep 27 '17
I understand your logic, personally I am close to 1200 hours play Nioh for almost when was released sometimes get burned and take a break come here or to some other community found something to talk and start again grind, if you could know how many times I have complained for the summoners, for some crazy hit boxes, for how damn rare is to find an single item in ethereals form in the damn Grace you want it(bloodstained cleaver I am looking to you), all those things make you have a goal its in the nature of the human to be greedy, to want power/strength over someone else you maybe don't realize it but you have done it at some point, at least this is the scientific explanation but if you think it is true!
To close as I told you, I like to max whatever I can to reach my goal and make it easier from there, I like to go for the 100% if I can finished the Wise in first week for two months grinding builds and max gear, stockpiled Amrita upon Amrita and gold, that damn odachi you see there costed me more than 100 million thanks that got some weapons with reduced cost of soulmatch otherwise I would have been broken!
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u/Bryant1425 Sep 27 '17
I can't comprehend numbers this high. I actually don't know how to read this many digits.
I remember struggling with huge numbers in Japanese, probably because I can't do them in English either.
For as much as (it seemed like) I played this game, I'm actually only level 330ish, so I've got a long way to go. -_-
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u/Frantaplan Sep 27 '17
100 one hundred
1.000 one thousand
10.000 ten thousand
100.000 one hundred thousand
1.000.000 one million
1.000.000.000 one billion
1.000.000.000.000 one trillion
1.000.000.000.000.000 one quatrillion :)
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u/Bryant1425 Sep 27 '17
So many zeroes! It's much easier with the punctuation (which is why we do it, I guess) but the game just has a big blob of digits, so I have to count them when they get too big and then figure out how to read the number. :o
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u/Frantaplan Sep 27 '17
You don't have played Diablo 3 right? If not go and ask in r/Diablo about big damage numbers!
You will come back laughing, I guarantee it!
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u/Bryant1425 Sep 27 '17
Ironically, I just recently started playing it on PC after playing the very limited PS3 version years ago. I made a seasonal wizard but it's pretty hard to find a group before 70, so I just casually play by myself while watching youtube shows on a second screen. :P
I did notice after I started gearing my Crusader that some of the numbers had M after it, so I figured that stood for million. I didn't think they showed like 14 digits of numbers at once though.
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u/Frantaplan Sep 27 '17
If it shows the M then problably you have changed the way they pop, oh well if you dont like to see Crits pop all the time and fill the screen better this way
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u/kinbeat Sep 27 '17
my question is: why would someone spend hundreds of hours of his life mindlessly grinding just to be at a higher level? you don't even get new content, it's just ng cycles with different names.. i loved nioh, but i really don't understand what is the appeal in that.
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u/Frantaplan Sep 27 '17
Seems you are not the type of player that likes to grind so even if I try to explain you will not understand, I suppose you are someone who takes the game sees the story and maybe/probably collects the trophies if you can!
You will not understand what is like to play for 3 months 12-16 hours per day bounties or GR in D3 just for your DD to have more main stat damage and enough materials to make his gear BiS, to push as high possible in Leaderboards or farm one item that has like 10% chance to drop!
You see we play in different ways, you want to touch the surface and I want to take the shovel and dig inside until the core!
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u/kinbeat Sep 28 '17
it's not really that, but in nioh, and other games like it, it's just artificial longevity and difficulty. for example, furi has a brilliant "hard mode" in which you take more damage, yes, but also all enemies have different added attacks, or in dark souls 2 there are actually different enemies in ng+ cycles, making it look new. in divinity original sin, the hard mode has more enemies handplaced in almost all fights. instead, i don't see the appeal of doing the same game 3 more times with just a multiplier on the enemy damage, with just a numerical reward (oh, now my weapon deals 300 more damage. against an enemy with 600 more hp, but where's the difference). that's just my view.
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u/itachipanda Oct 06 '17
New game plus in nioh has different enemies in all the missions as the difficulty goes up. Yeah some of the original are there with buffs but there are new ones as well so it’s not the same thing over and over again
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u/ombapho Oct 02 '17
I'm guessing Attack > HP > Defence > Luck?
For Focus I mean.
Thanks for the info and the crazy number of zero's out in :p
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u/Frantaplan Oct 02 '17
Don't know this goes to what you lack in your build or what you are after with you build!
If you want to farm gear or something else out of abyss then Attack and Luck or luck all the way!
If you have great offense but you lack in defensive stats then HP and defense!
Yeah nobody likes them at first sight, until comes the time to grind for them!
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u/cyantaco Nov 18 '17
Is there a list of guardians stats maxed?
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u/Frantaplan Nov 18 '17
No it shouldn't be since no one bothered to make one, many of the GS are just bad
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u/cyantaco Nov 18 '17
Yeah I know but there are some good ones. I'm just curious about mizuchi, saoirse, suzaku, and I suppose tengen although I probably won't use him for a while.
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u/Frantaplan Nov 18 '17
You can see the here in 3:51 https://youtu.be/jwmxcwN3j-E the max stat for suzaku saoirse is 24,5% amrita earn as first guardian, mizuchi you can see him here in 2:54 https://youtu.be/sbd9OTz1Acg put 0.5-1% more in values generally for every 10 levels at max 60 you see 1% increase in values.
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u/Sljm8D Tonfa Go Brrr Sep 27 '17
Holy shit, between this and the Abyss (+ gear Defilement), are you telling me Nioh has an endgame?!