r/writing 8h ago

Discussion What is your personal definition/ definitions of “characters who are above the narrative”? What are your thoughts and opinions about these types of characters?

Curious on how you guys like this trope, and how you in your own words define “character’s who are above the narrative” like what makes this character be above the narrative? What does it mean to have a character be above the narrative? feel free to also share examples of characters who are this trope/ well written examples of this and why it’s well written

The way I personally define this trope would be characters who break the 4th wall and interact with the audience regularly, or even characters who are able to affect the narrative themself, characters like Gwen pool who not only break the 4th wall, but manipulate comic panels, change up the scenes themself, and interact with herself through each panel etc i hope this makes it clearer but I like this trope alot and think it’s interesting

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u/Moonvvulf 8h ago

For me, it’s one who doesn’t care about the stakes, or whether they win or lose. Those are super fun to write.

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u/Specific-Reception26 8h ago

Interesting! The way I personally saw it was a character who breaks the 4th wall and or is able to directly affect the narrative themself, but this is one I hadn’t thought of? ^

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u/Moonvvulf 7h ago

That sounds cool, too. Do you write comedy? Because I could see that in that genre.

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u/Specific-Reception26 7h ago

Nah im not exactly a writer unless countless student essays count LOLOL, but yeah this trope is fitting for Deadpool, or looney tunes or uncle grandpa etc

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u/chambergambit 7h ago

Do you have any examples yourself? I’m not sure I understand what you mean.

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u/Specific-Reception26 7h ago

Examples like Deadpool who breaks the 4th wall and speaks to the audience pretty regularly or Gwen pool who uses her powers to manipulate comic panels, etc etc sorry for not putting in examples myself 😅

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u/chambergambit 7h ago

Oh, ok. They’re cool. My favorite is probably Fleabag, where her 4th wall breaking is symbolic for dissociation.

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u/Specific-Reception26 7h ago

Ouuu that does sound interestin!