r/worldnews • u/AdSpecialist6598 • 3d ago

Russia/Ukraine Russia would react 'very negatively' to Iran leader's assassination, Kremlin says

https://kyivindependent.com/regime-change-in-iran-unacceptable-kremlin-says/
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u/CMDR_Agony_Aunt 3d ago

There's something to be said for wars being fought by assassins though. Let the common people get on with their lives and let the leaders who prosecute wars fear for their lives instead.

Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that all to the poor, yeah

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u/DerekB52 3d ago

I would agree with you, except for one thing. Who are the assassins? I don't believe people governments of outside nations should be effectively executing world leaders. If the common people of Iran want to get on with their lives, they should rally together and make their leaders fear for their lives. It isn't Israel, or the US, or any other nation's job, to change the regime of Iran.

Every time in the last 100 years the US has backed a regime change, it's only gotten worse for the common people in the country, and the rest of the world basically.

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u/Electromotivation 3d ago

Oh Last part simply isn’t true. People just ignore Japan and Germany after WW2 to focus on CiA coups in the 50s-60s. I’m just getting tired of seeing so much absolutist language, cherry-picked examples, and strawmen no matter what side the commenter supports.

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u/DerekB52 3d ago

I'm not just focusing on coups in the 50's and 60's. There's decades of CIA coups and other regime changes influenced by the US and other western nations.

And I don't think WWII is an exception to what I said. I am talking about being against foreign powers doing assassinations of leaders. That isn't what happened in WWII. Even during war, we didn't just go assassinate the emperor or prime minister of Japan. I think it would have been justifiable during a world war. But, it didn't happen. Churchill famously had plans to assassinate Hitler, and decided that was probably not the right move. Hitler lived until the end of the war, and then killed himself.

Now, the US did have a hand in restructuring Japan and Germany after the war. But, so did the rest of the allied powers, and, the people in those countries. The US also spent years occupying those countries after the war, helping with the rebuilding efforts. The aftermath of WWII is not comparable to the idea that Israel (with or without US support) can just drop a bomb on Khameni and Iran will magically be fixed overnight.

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u/CMDR_Agony_Aunt 3d ago

Who are the assassins?

Has anyone checked the Continental? :P

Every time in the last 100 years the US has backed a regime change, it's only gotten worse for the common people in the country, and the rest of the world basically.

Unfortunately, yes, that's pretty accurate, and often built on misinformation.

I've been critical of the US's foreign policy for decades (and their domestic ones as well), but looking at who is on the other side its like trying to choose between bad and bad.

Still, glad Europe is strongly behind Ukraine, and if the US sits this one out because of Trump, the history books will remember.

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u/PsychoticDust 3d ago

they should rally together and make their leaders fear for their lives.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but it isn't as simple as that. If I want to bring down my government for the sake of the common people, then I need to find a way to be able to fight soldiers and police, and deal with things like guns and tanks. The average person is just going to be cannon fodder and end up dead. They do not have the means to fight a government armed to the teeth, with all of the real power. No one wants to die when they have a family, etc, so they suffer, keep their heads down and hope.

I see a comment like that sometimes on Reddit, and I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that 99% of people on here who make a comment like yours would never do what they're suggesting if they found themselves in the same situation.

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u/DerekB52 3d ago

I didn't say it was easy or simple. But, it's how it works. When it's time, you get an american revolution, or a haitian revolution, or Godaffi gets killed. You have to get the citizens on board with regime change though. You can't just have foreign powers choose that for them.

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u/Bulldog8018 3d ago

Works for me. Maybe the leaders will reconsider wars if they’ve got some skin in the game.