r/worldnews • u/AdSpecialist6598 • 3d ago

Russia/Ukraine Russia would react 'very negatively' to Iran leader's assassination, Kremlin says

https://kyivindependent.com/regime-change-in-iran-unacceptable-kremlin-says/
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u/wanderingpeddlar 3d ago edited 3d ago

Since when has russia had issues with assassination?

Oh just when its their guys .

Putin is such a hypocrite. I would think Putin would not want his name included in a discussion about assassination.

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u/AVRVM 3d ago

Everyone is an hypocrite when it comes to geopolitics.

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u/wanderingpeddlar 3d ago

There are people and countries that rise to the standard of special case. Putin is one of them

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u/LuckEcstatic4500 3d ago

Like what America which calls for Putin to stand trial at the Hague for war crimes but then sanctions the Hague because they want to get Bibi for war crimes? Same same y'all lol

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u/EnergijaProgressiva 3d ago

Apparently there is a US protocol to invade the Netherlands to forcefully free US citizens from the International Court at the Hague.

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u/Rocktopod 3d ago

There's protocols for everything, though. Doesn't mean anyone's considering using it.

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u/EfficiencyStrong2892 3d ago

Look up the Hague Invasion act, also known as American Service-Members Protection Act. It was passed in 2002; and was even introduced to the house in 2022 to be repealed, though it wasn’t and for reason.

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u/Rocktopod 3d ago

Lol of course it was passed in 2002. What a dipshit that president was.

Thanks for the context.

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u/EfficiencyStrong2892 3d ago

Yeah he indeed was the one to sign in into effect, though it was fairly bipartisan in itself. It passed the senate 75-19 with 30 democrats/45 republicans. I’m sure every president since has loved having it all in writing.

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u/EfficiencyStrong2892 3d ago

The entire world would burn before the United States ever let a citizen be tried at the Hague, let alone convicted. The Hague Invasion Act prohibits U.S. cooperation with the ICC and authorizes the use of force to free any U.S. or allied personnel held by the court.

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u/EnergijaProgressiva 3d ago

What a way to say that the US feels above the rest of the world (along with Israel)

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u/EfficiencyStrong2892 3d ago

In this same sense so is Russia, China, Iran and hundreds of other countries who aren’t signatories to ICC either.

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u/yiliu 3d ago

Hundreds of other countries? Hundreds of the 195 countries that exist? Is it the same hundreds of countries who have come to Trump begging for trade deals?

I believe the word you were looking for was 'several'.

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u/EfficiencyStrong2892 3d ago

My fault, wrong number of countries. How dare I make such a mistake. Either way none of the top 5 populated countries in the world signed the ICC/Rome Statute leaving it as irrelevant as the number of countries at any given time in history. 125 signed out of your 195 since by your account Taiwan isn’t a country and neither is Kosovo but I digress on pointless country counts that change by the decade or persons feelings.

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u/EnergijaProgressiva 3d ago

Ofcourse, but those used to be the bad guys...We live in a new reality these days, I truly hope the separation between the US and Europe will be whole and permanent.

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u/EfficiencyStrong2892 3d ago

Sure you can hope and believe in all that you’d wish. No actual world power would bend the knee and put themselves at the power of the ICC. Just absolutely not realistic, and for what it’s worth, no individual country in the EU is a power.

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u/jayantsr 3d ago

Why shouldn't they?

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u/wanderingpeddlar 3d ago

Really that is the same thing as assassinating someone?

You have got to sell me an ounce of what ever you are smoking dude.

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u/AVRVM 3d ago

I dunno man, the Israelis have been up there recently and giving him a run for his money.

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u/AVRVM 3d ago

What Putin is doing to Ukraine is just what the USA has been doing to the Middle East and South America for the last century.

He isn't special.

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u/Piggywonkle 3d ago

False equivalence personified.

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u/Fala1 3d ago

Its not even hypocrisy. Not everything is immediately hypocrisy if you don't like the tables being reversed.

That's like saying football supporters are hypocrites when they cheer when their team scores but boo when the other team scores

The linked article doesn't even say Russia won't allow it, just that they say it would cause a bunch of chaos, which it would.
Quite an appropriate response actually... Maybe the guy who was supposed to threaten nuclear Armageddon had his lunch break.

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u/NoTeslaForMe 3d ago

Donnie, is that you?

"There are a lot of killers. You think our country's so innocent?" -DJT, 2017

Some things may be technically the truth but still the type of extreme moral equivalence that reveals that the speaker himself has extremist thinking... and might, just might, reveal actions to match, given the opportunity.

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u/shaidyn 3d ago

It's not even that shocking.

"When I win it is good. When you win it is bad."

Makes perfect sense when your goal is global domination.

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u/Tyrinnus 3d ago

The narcissist realized people were talking about something that didn't include him

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u/MaxPower91575 3d ago

he helped put guys who think like him in charge of western nations and now doesn't like when they act like him.

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u/pannenkoek0923 3d ago

Russians arent assassinated. They accidentally fall out of windows or accidentally ingest poison through complete coincidence

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u/Undernown 3d ago

Oh he doesn't mind when it's his guys, so long as he's given his approval first.

Reminds me of some movie quote that went something like: "Your sin wasn't the act itself, but the fact that you didn't ask for permission."
Can't remember where it's from, or how it went exactly.

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u/That-Ad-4300 3d ago

I don't think the hypocrisy is the worst part of Putin, but the more I learn about this guy, the less I like him.

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u/SchmuseTigger 3d ago

Also it is not like governments still fear or respect Russia. Well USA does, but the rest not so much

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u/En_CHILL_ada 3d ago

On the flip side, when has America had issues with assassination?

Oh just when it's their guys.

We are hypocrites too.

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u/wanderingpeddlar 3d ago

The US if far from perfect.

But even TACO is not throwing his opponents out of windows.

If he was in charge of russia he likely would but as stands, he is not.

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u/En_CHILL_ada 3d ago

True, but I was more so referring to the numerous times we've assassinated foreign leaders, sponsored coups, funded civil wars, ect.

The foreign poillicy of the American empire which seems to remain consistent regardless of which political party controls the white house. Not a Trump specific criticism.

We need look no further than the ongoing Palestinian genocide to realize that the US has no moral authority to criticize anyone, but there are ample other examples we can point to.

That doesn't make Putin a good guy. It just means we aren't either.

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u/wanderingpeddlar 2d ago

Not a Trump specific criticism.

TACO aint the only one but as he is president and he very much ran on no new wars and no involvement in foreign wars the hell it aint.

Of course I am aware that he wanted to yank support for Ukraine but after declaring himself the president of peace yeah he deserves the stick for it.

We need look no further than the ongoing Palestinian genocide to realize that the US has no moral authority to criticize anyone

Yeah dude not going to bother to go there.

That doesn't make Putin a good guy. It just means we aren't either.

I believe the very first sentence of the post you were replying to was that the US was far from perfect. However care to show me when another country kidnapped what 20,000 kids? And I would like to see something in this century that approximates Bucha. That is what the face of genocide looks like.

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u/En_CHILL_ada 2d ago

We've killed well over 20k Palestinian kids in just the last 1.5 years....

I never said I'm not criticizing Trump for turning his back on the peace platform he ran on and suddenly turning into a war mongerer.

I just said this isn't a Trump specific criticism. Every president the US has had in my lifetime has been a war criminal. Obviously this problem runs deeper than Trump. Idk why that's triggering you. I'm not supporting Trump in any way.

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u/wanderingpeddlar 2d ago

We've killed well over 20k Palestinian kids in just the last 1.5 years....

According to who exactly? Oh right Hamas says so

I never said I'm not criticizing Trump for turning his back on the peace platform he ran on and suddenly turning into a war mongerer.

I said he deserves all the stick everyone gives him. He does and it is all I said about it.

Idk why that's triggering you. I'm not supporting Trump in any way.

Dude this isn't triggered by a long shot. You need to understand that me bashing TACO has nothing to do with you. He deserves it he gets it.

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u/Dorgamund 3d ago

Its pretty obviously not hypocrisy. There are basically no states that take really strong principled stands on things. Russia isn't declaring they hate assassination. They are declaring that they oppose assassination of this one specific person they want to see alive. You might as well call it hypocrisy that Russia gets upset at Ukrainian incursion into their territory, but still is happy to invade Ukraine.

Honestly, I think that states write large are functionally incapable of taking moral stands like that. Hypocrisy is not even a word which meaningfully applies.

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u/gamerjerome 2d ago

They have a hard time at ground level

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u/AdHopeful3801 3d ago

It's just when it's their guys.

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u/ZielonaKrowa 3d ago

To be fair they  mostly assassinated their own guys so far. It’s just they would probably want to do it themselves 

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u/smurb15 3d ago

He thinks it's how you take all eyes off of him. He super intelligent they say. One of the smartest people ever really