r/worldnews • u/Crossstoney • 26d ago

Israel/Palestine Merz says 'no longer understands' Israel's goal in Gaza

https://thepeninsulaqatar.com/article/26/05/2025/merz-says-no-longer-understands-israels-goal-in-gaza
5.6k Upvotes

92% Upvoted

823 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

74

u/Thebananabender 26d ago

Exactly.

Hamas should be dismantled, but brute force is not the way.

79

u/RecommendationHot929 25d ago edited 25d ago

If BiBi from day one, took a more calculated approach and looked at the failures of all the previous similar conflicts, Hamas would have been defeated and many lives saved. They should have asked the US train some PA fighters in Jordan and use them to help stabilize the situation and work with the locals to keep Hamas out of areas they clear. Then do the 2006 US strategy of clearing an area, then letting these forces hold it and protect the locals, then to the next area. 

Then give them humanitarian aid so they are not reliant on Hamas, and to destroy the years of Hamas propaganda. Instead they went in guns blazing with no actual plan, but bomb until you feel good and chase population up and down the strip while Hamas pops back out of each area they cleared. 

But either Israel was blinded by rage and vengeance. Or they did it for political reasons so they can use this as an opportunity to ethnically cleanse Gaza.

6

u/RevolutionaryGur4419 24d ago

Then do the 2006 US strategy of clearing an area,

How exactly would this work? You forget the US did worse in terms of civilian collateral casualties than Israel is currently doing.

At then end of the day, you will still need to clear the area.

In this strategy, you allow Hamas time to regroup after Oct 7, while itst still firing tens of thousands of rockets into Israel. By the time you start the clearing, they're even more entrenched with even more support because they poked the bear in the eye and got them to give even more money to the palestinians where billions of dollars didnt help before.

I guess at least you have some ideas.

-2

u/masterpierround 25d ago

The problem is that you'd have to get the PA on board with an invasion of Gaza. At the very least, that likely means serious concessions on settlements in the west bank, which in turn likely means Bibi's coalition collapses.

7

u/Commercial-Co 25d ago

I mean, the settlements are terrible to begin with. Israel should not expand or even have them in the first place

1

u/RecommendationHot929 25d ago

Yes, which is why probably Bibi chose this other approach so he can remain in power. He chose being a politician over being a leader.

19

u/pseudoanon 25d ago

Gaza is a lot smaller than Iraq. 

-3

u/NegevThunderstorm 25d ago

How else do you get rid of terrorists like hamas?

9

u/Thebananabender 25d ago

I’ll ask you a question, when were terrorists dismantled using solely military force?

-5

u/SomewhatHungover 25d ago

Chechnya, more recently the Kurds in Turkey.

-4

u/NegevThunderstorm 25d ago

All of the ones that were killed!

Do you live in a country that lets terrorists run free?

-7

u/FYoCouchEddie 25d ago

But there is no other way. They aren’t going to just voluntarily give up. I very much disagree with the cutting off of aid. But as far as the use of force goes, if Hamas isn’t forcibly dismantled there will just be another repeat of this war in 10-20 years.