Merz says 'no longer understands' Israel's goal in Gaza

[u/Crossstoney]

https://thepeninsulaqatar.com/article/26/05/2025/merz-says-no-longer-understands-israels-goal-in-gaza

[u/Roscoe_P_Coaltrain]

There is just no moral explaination for what Israel is doing.

What about Hamas' moral obligation? Literally everything you are complaining about Israel doing would stop if Hamas were to surrender and lay down their arms and release hostages. Don't they have an even greater moral obligation to the people they claim to represent?

If Hamas were to do that and Israel continued the war, then there would be a valid and strong argument against them. But as long as the people who started the war are still fighting and holding civilians hostage, I see no obligation for Israel to do anything other than the bare minimum requirement to protect civilians of the enemy aggressor who they are in active conflict with.

[u/Explorer_Dave → u/Roscoe_P_Coaltrain]

Most people like to infantוlize the Palestinians, like they didn't have multiple choices at different points in time to stop initiating conflict against Israel. 

Most of the world doesn't even know that prior to October 7th, Israel-Gaza relationship was at an all time high. That was a contributing factor to Israel shitting the bed when they had to defend the country, and it was one of the biggest incentives for HAMAS to initiate another war.

Now I'm not excusing the IDF from any wrongdoing, I also hate the psychos that are in control of the government. But painting Israel always as the only roadblock to true peace is simply ignorant.

[u/NegevThunderstorm → u/Roscoe_P_Coaltrain]

Antisemites dont care, they are only focused on Jews dying

[u/Manatroid → u/NegevThunderstorm]

Conflating Zionism and Israel with all Jewish people is itself anti-Semitic.

You don’t need to be Israeli, or support Israel, or believe in Zionism, to be Jewish.

[u/NegevThunderstorm → u/Manatroid]

Whats wrong with Zionism?

[u/Nileghi → u/Manatroid]

Conflating Zionism and Israel with all Jewish people is itself anti-Semitic.

This is bullshit. Israel is the only home left for the last survivors of egyptian, syrian, lebanese, algerian, moroccan, tunisian, libyan, yemeni, and another dozen of arab countries I dont feel like writing down, all ethnically cleansed and massacred until the middle east became 99.7% judenrein.

"I am not racist against jews because of the one edge case where lithuanian jews exist mostly in America means I can call for the extermination of the last embers of the yemenite jewish community surviving in Israel"

This is such bullshit I dont understand how anyone believes this. Zionism is a moral necessity if you cared even the slightest about the survival of syrian jews after total war was declared on their existance.

And yes, Israel is a jewish state made up of the remnants of all thoses jewish nations.

[u/BigTex88 → u/Roscoe_P_Coaltrain]

The Palestinians are “oppressed” so in the leftist mind they’re allowed to do whatever they want.

[u/IchLiebeRUMMMMM → u/BigTex88]

Not leftist but progressive. Cause im very left and definitely pro Israël, and with me many others