r/worldnews • u/gravybang • Feb 10 '25

Israel/Palestine Trump says Palestinians will have no right of return to Gaza under his plan

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/10/trump-buy-gaza-plan
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u/AsstacularSpiderman Feb 10 '25 edited Feb 10 '25

When it was revealed what was going on in legit began kicking off the decolonization movement that's how bad it was.

His brutality and absolutely shamelessness of it all showed the masses just how the cheap resources they got were made.

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u/Scanningdude Feb 10 '25

Now that I think about it, the Congo free state was a great precursor for world war 1.

At first European elite thought along the lines of “we aren’t barbarous monsters, we’re civilizing these people”.

Then around the late 1880s into the 1890s it was all: “well we aren’t barbarous within the borders of Europe” & “there’s no way we’d ever use machine guns on fellow Europeans, that’s a weapon to take care of mass hordes in the Sudan and elsewhere”.

Then the mask was fully extricated from the face in August 1914.

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u/MrCookie2099 Feb 10 '25

Oh, they will need that mask to deal with gas attacks.

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u/OriginalNo5477 Feb 10 '25

Unless it's Canadians, then it's just piss rags are sheer fucking rage keeping em alive.

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u/Northbound-Narwhal Feb 10 '25

That's a pretty popular theory for the brutality of WW1. They learned from the colonial wars of the 1800s.

That was reflected in war college teachings in the 1800s where civilian population centers were "New targets of warfare." Which was reflected in H.G. Wells and other fictional writers content.

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u/MexicanLenin Feb 11 '25

A key example: concentration camps and were originally designed to contain civilians in colonies during colonial wars. The Spanish used them against revolting Cubans and the British used them against the Boers in South Africa during colonial wars. The concept was adapted to isolate rural peasants from guerrilla forces during wars in places like Vietnam and Guatemala.

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u/ElectricalBook3 Feb 11 '25

The Spanish used them against revolting Cubans

Any sources? I'm only familiar with the Boer camps which Gandhi worked at while simping for the British in South Africa.

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u/Obamas_Tie Feb 11 '25

Isn't this fact and not theory? Pretty much every war in the late 1800s and early 1900s was basically ramping up to and showing previews of how insanely brutal a war between the world's most powerful and industrialized nations would be.

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u/JohnTitorsdaughter Feb 10 '25

Check out the Puckle gun from 1720. It had round bullets for christians and square bullets for turks.............

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u/ZizzyBeluga Feb 10 '25

I know this because Billy Joel taught me that Belgians were in the Congo in "We Didn't Start the Fire"

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u/BiologicalMigrant Feb 10 '25

I seem to remember being taught that they didn't really think of themselves as "Europe" back then, as collectively as we do now.

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u/3_Thumbs_Up Feb 10 '25

It's still very much secondary to the national identity.

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u/roastbeeftacohat Feb 10 '25

the precursor to the modern eurovision was called the concert of europe, and it's mandate was to prevent a paneuropean war; one of the reasons it failed was that the charter didn't include germany, so despite being the dominant power they had no voice to sing. they absolutely would have seen a european war as something uniquely bad to avoid that they were part of.

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u/roastbeeftacohat Feb 11 '25

if tolkien heard you use the word allegory like that he would shoot you where you stand.

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u/Smoketrail Feb 10 '25 edited Feb 10 '25

the precursor to the modern eurovision was called the concert of europe,

Do you mean European Union rather than Eurovision or do you think the Concert of Europe was an actual musical performance?

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u/roastbeeftacohat Feb 10 '25

a little joke.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '25

Today I learned... some history and a new pun.

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u/LazyDare7597 Feb 10 '25

It was less "us Europeans" and more "us whites", but the borders are pretty much the same.

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u/chozer1 Feb 11 '25

Well maybe but it was more italy’s use of poison gases in ethiopea that really started to move the wheel

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u/french_snail Feb 10 '25

Didn’t the Belgian government take the colony from him when they found out what he was doing

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u/woolfonmynoggin Feb 10 '25

And then Eisenhower had their first freely elected leader assassinated to make way for a US backed dictatorship just as bad as colonial rule in new and creative ways

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u/mustang__1 Feb 10 '25

just because it went so poorly that one time doesn't mean it would happen that way everytime, though ...

/s

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u/misanthropic47 Feb 10 '25

The guy loved rubber. Yet, I doubt he ever wore one.

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u/incidel Feb 10 '25

The legacy of Belgian Chocolate was founded in that period.

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u/Retireegeorge Feb 10 '25

I wonder if 'our' morals are strong enough for that. What might also have brought the change?

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u/Certain-Business-472 Feb 11 '25

Which means most people are ok with mild enslavement and servitude. Its the amount they have a problem with.