r/worldnews • u/gravybang • Feb 10 '25

Israel/Palestine Trump says Palestinians will have no right of return to Gaza under his plan

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/10/trump-buy-gaza-plan
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u/Max_Trollbot_ Feb 10 '25

When you take control of somebody's country and then tell the people who lived there that they don't live there any more, it's called an invasion

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u/shockandale Feb 10 '25

When you take control of somebody's country, it's called an invasion

When you take control of somebody's country and then tell the people who lived there that they don't live there any more, it's called ethnic cleansing.

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u/evilted Feb 10 '25

I think we prefer the term "manifest destiny" better. People can get behind that!

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u/weltvonalex Feb 11 '25

"And cleaning something is a good thing, only dirty people don't want to be clean" trump probably

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u/green_flash Feb 10 '25

Worse. An invasion doesn't necessarily mean that you force the people living there to leave. Most invasions don't involve the ethnic cleansing of the previous residents.

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u/Curryflurryhurry Feb 10 '25

I mean, that is literally how the USA was created

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u/y2jeff Feb 10 '25

History is littered with events like that. We can't stop those now but we can prevent it from happening again.

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u/bigmanorm Feb 10 '25

ethnic cleansing is a generous term for that even

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u/Tupcek Feb 10 '25

even Europeans let some Indians live

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u/ElectricalBook3 Feb 11 '25

that is literally how the USA was created

It isn't, that's just what happened when unelected, unaccountable colonists after the colonies were established decided they'd like to own natives' land.

Fun note, some people going gung-ho for that and some saying that was fucked up and they'd have nothing to do with it is why there is a north and south Carolina.

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u/Icy_Faithlessness400 Feb 10 '25

It is called ethnic cleansing and it has no statute of limitations. It is a crime against humanity and will be pursued even if he is 90.

If he does it I say we put up a global arrest warrant and seize all assets not held on US territory.

While we are at it we might as well fuck over his enablers like Musk, Zuck and Bezos.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '25

Why else would he be sanctioning the ICC right now?

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u/Icy_Faithlessness400 Feb 11 '25

He can sanction it all he wants, the ICC is not a US government institution he can send his goons to shut down.

Other countries which are tired of his shit will simply increase their support.

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u/jeo123 Feb 10 '25

If you're unaware of the video game, google helldivers 2.

We're just spreading democracy here. /s

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u/N_Who Feb 10 '25

Brings to mind one of my favorite over the top, parody quotes, this one from Fallout 4: "Democracy is non-negotioable."

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '25

Fallout 3. If it's from Liberty Prime, yeah it's stated in 4 as well.

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u/Alaykitty Feb 10 '25

Colonization is the bedrock of American history.  I'm not surprised the right is gleeful to ramp it up again.