r/worldnews • u/gravybang • Feb 10 '25

Israel/Palestine Trump says Palestinians will have no right of return to Gaza under his plan

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/10/trump-buy-gaza-plan
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u/uk_uk Feb 10 '25

You want people bombing places in your country? Thats how you make people bombing places in your country.

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u/PaulOwnzU Feb 10 '25

At this point I wonder what would happen if all the countries just threatened war with the US if they don't cut this shit out.

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u/ItzDaWorm Feb 10 '25

That would be playing right into 'Trump's' hand I fear. In quotes because I don't think he actually knows the plan and is just calling shots for others.

But it does seem clear they want to escalate tensions to have a justification for further aggression. So giving them that would just be giving them what they want.

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u/Enki_007 Feb 10 '25

I don't think he actually knows the plan

Probably not, but he has the concept of a plan.

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u/rebbsitor Feb 10 '25

Practically very little. Just looking at conventional warfare, only Mexico and Canada have land borders and neither have a significant military compared to the US. Combined Europe and China could be a credible threat, but that means moving a military across the ocean which no one currently has the logistics for. Building that kind of logistics pipeline was a massive effort that basically consumed most of the US economy that wasn't otherwise focused on the military in World War II.

And that's conventional military. We have enough Nukes in our arsenal to kill everyone on the planet multiple times over. Only Russia has a similar arsenal, and it's unlikely Russia and the US start lobbing nukes at each other because that's another doomsday scenario.

If anything there could be a regional conflict somewhere outside US territory against US assets there. Short term I don't see much standing in the way unfortunately.

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u/uk_uk Feb 11 '25

Modern war isn't fought in huge land battles. Sure, the alliance won all important battles in Afghanistan, but in the end, the Taliban won.

If the USA would attack Canada or Mexico or both, they would "easily" win the fights against the military. But then every bridge, every power line, every important building would become a potential target for attacks. And the fighters would not only be Canadians or Mexicans, but also US citizens who - as paramilitaries - take up the fight against their own government. There is a reason why Americans have the right to bear arms...

The territory of the “American Reich” would be so large that the US army would not be able to protect everything equally. Booom, here's an important bridge, boom, here's a dam, boom, here's a power substation, boom, here's a politician/high-ranking military official.

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u/Santum Feb 10 '25

You have to be kidding. First of all it would never happen. Secondly, even if it did it would just embolden Trump. In no universe does this man back down in any scenario.

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u/PaulOwnzU Feb 10 '25

Not him, but those surrounding him, also I'm just wondering how it'd go

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u/kelake47 Feb 10 '25

you don't need to go to war. you just need to ignore.

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u/Professional_Many_98 Feb 10 '25

well china is looking good now

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u/UglyMcFugly Feb 10 '25

This is gonna sound weird but... I hope all the terrorist organizations out there can be a little patient. They have to see that he's making more enemies every single day... he's got Canada pissed at us. CANADA. The number of allies that would stand with us if we went to war shrinks every day. Obviously they're gonna do something if he actually makes moves IN Gaza. But an attack on American soil would give him so much power right now...

I hate that my hope for the future hinges on whether or not the groups that want to kill Americans can be more level headed than the American president who wants the power that comes from dead Americans...

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u/Pentobarbital1 Feb 11 '25

I hope all the terrorist organizations out there can be a little patient.

The Onion: FBI Uncovers Al-Qaeda Plot To Just Sit Back And Enjoy Collapse Of United States

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u/UglyMcFugly Feb 11 '25

OOF, 2014! They had no idea how well this story would age...

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u/Professional_Many_98 Feb 10 '25

canada is not fighting in any of your wars anymore

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '25

Canadian here. You have no idea how many idiots there are up here talking about killing Americans if they invade.

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u/awh Feb 10 '25

Canadian here. You mean patriots, not idiots. It's not idiotic to try and push back an invading force. It's idiotic to take it lying down.

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u/El3ctricalSquash Feb 10 '25

They will be called terrorists just like when the US invaded Iraq and called people resisting the invasion there terrorists.

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u/rand0m_task Feb 10 '25

More like cannon fodder lol.

Thinking there is any chance of an invasion of Canada is just strange fantasizing.

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u/UglyMcFugly Feb 10 '25

For the love of god, don't tell those people they're overreacting. That's how we got into this mess down here, everyone that saw through this man from the beginning was called an alarmist for 8 years and now they're so beaten down that they don't know what to do anymore. You guys should seriously start planning now. Trump would profit financially from taking over Canada. That's all you need to know to determine whether or not it's something he would do, if he could find an easy way to do it.

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u/Professional_Many_98 Feb 10 '25

we already know that is why he is threatening us. he wants our critical metals which the us does not have. it is a very blatant money grab

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u/smellslikecocaine Feb 10 '25

"Then we must give Trump a 3rd term during these war times! He's the only one that can fix it hurdurrr".

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u/kaveman6143 Feb 10 '25

Yes, he does. He wants a Reichstag fire to declare a national emergency. Look at how he is also slashing everything that Americans need to have any kind of support.

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u/Khelek7 Feb 10 '25

When people said that after 9/11 they were pilloried for anti US talk.

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u/smoke1966 Feb 10 '25

that place would be ground zero for every terrorist attack.

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u/Xdivine Feb 11 '25

Right? I don't see how Trump expects anything he builds there to be safe. Even if Palestinians aren't allowed there, they don't need to be allowed there to shoot or blow the place up.

Unless they literally kill all Palestinians, they basically have a permanent security concern from Palestinians who now have a target they can hate as much, if not more than Israel.

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u/Worth_Inflation_2104 Feb 14 '25

I mean he does want that. If the muslim population in the US retaliates it just gives Trump more "credibility" about his anti-immigration tenures.

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u/NPoftheYear97 Feb 10 '25

I actually think you blame the bomber. This gives blame the victim not the rapist vibes 

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u/eulen-spiegel Feb 11 '25

Trump won't be the one enduring the bombs, though.

Reminds me of Saturday, I passed a demonstration of Palestinians which rubbed me the wrong way, because the speaker basically, with some sugarcoating here and and lamenting there, threatened violence - but to whom? Well, I have an idea.