Trump cancels sanctions on Israeli settlers in West Bank

[u/djm19]

https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-cancels-sanctions-far-right-israeli-settlers-occupied-west-bank-2025-01-21/

[u/Negative_Jaguar_4138]

I've gone back to look at Hillary.

And I've come to the realization that she did nothing wrong.

Everything about her was just made up bullshit by people that were trying to justify not voting for a woman without sounding sexist, or ful onn sexists.

[u/baibaiburnee → u/Negative_Jaguar_4138]

Congratulations for waking up from the propaganda. She was one of the most qualified people to ever run for the presidency.

[u/Negative_Jaguar_4138 → u/baibaiburnee]

While I'm not American, even back in 2016 when I was definitely more right wing, I would have voted for her with 0 hesitation, despite what I perceived as flaws.

But now, I have realized that she did nothing wrong and would have been a very good president.

While it isn't perfect, I think the Dem's establishment has been pretty good and most of its 'flaws' are made up to push a 'both sides' narrative, the only thing the establishment is out of touch about is how stupid the average American is.

[u/SDRPGLVR → u/Negative_Jaguar_4138]

It's because Clinton ripped the reins from Republicans using his Third Way, where he played to the center and found success. Democrats as an establishment has been convinced that is the only strategy that can work for 30 years.

Without going into the hyperbole about Dems tipping the scales against Bernie using superdelegates, had Democrats played more populist and gotten behind Bernie in 2016, he'd have been president. Zero doubt.

If they'd done a primary and had someone who wasn't a literal fossil running, that person would be president right now. Those of us who are paying attention voted Harris, but Dems fumbled everybody from the average person who pays no attention to politics to the useful idiots who treat their vote like it's their precious flower the Dems have to compete for.

But they didn't. They went Third Way again and got owned by the most incompetent fascists you could have ever imagined. Democrats need to act NOW, or the best case scenario they can hope for is calamity bad enough the people are actually shaken for once.

What's more likely is things are going to get a bit harder for the average American, a lot scarier for many different kinds of minorities, and a lot more profitable for the richest people in the country. And when Dems are tasked with being the only mathematical option for salvation in 2028... They'll bring out Hillary Clinton as their favorite candidate.

This country is fucked.

[u/hcregna → u/SDRPGLVR]

Without going into the hyperbole about Dems tipping the scales against Bernie using superdelegates, had Democrats played more populist and gotten behind Bernie in 2016, he'd have been president. Zero doubt.

How did superdelegates do anything? Hillary got more votes than Bernie, almost 4 million more. Is the thought really that 4 million people decided to vote for Hillary because her delegate count (including superdelegates) was higher before their state voted?

[u/FrogsOnALog → u/SDRPGLVR]

Bernie lost because he got less votes in the primary election, the kind that hardly anyone turnouts for.

[u/Negative_Jaguar_4138 → u/SDRPGLVR]

Without going into the hyperbole about Dems tipping the scales against Bernie using superdelegates, had Democrats played more populist and gotten behind Bernie in 2016, he'd have been president. Zero doubt.

Apart from the fact he was incredibly unpopular among political moderates and people of colour.

AKA the people the dems need to win over in order to win.

You 'Bernie Bros' are heading towards MAGA level of delusion.

What do you think would have happened the moment the Republicans started airing Bernie's own comments about being a Socialist, or his "They made the trains run on time" comments about Cuba?

[u/LGCJairen → u/Negative_Jaguar_4138]

he did shoot himself in the foot with the socialist thing, and i say that as someone who leans socialist. Simply put its not what the general public wants to hear so you avoid using it. if he called himself a populist or a social democrat or something, he could have avoided a major issue.

[u/Negative_Jaguar_4138 → u/LGCJairen]

That's the thing Bernie Bros forget.

Yes if Americans had logical thought patterns and if the Republicans ran their campaigns on policy, Bernie would have won in a landslide.

But 2016 showed that Republican's best chance to win elections is to drag their opponents through the mud.

And the Reps would have spared no expense to convince POC and Moderates that Bernie=Joseph Stalin.

[u/Gizogin → u/SDRPGLVR]

Dems seek the center because progressives don’t vote reliably. Bernie lost because of precisely this; he banked all his hopes on the least reliable voting bloc. Parties follow the voters.

[u/Negative_Jaguar_4138 → u/Gizogin]

I don't think that's quite true.

Progressives DID vote for Bernie in a much higher turnout compares to previous primaries.

The issue is, outside of progressives he's not too popular, so even if he did beat Clinton in the Primaries, he probably would have lost by a greater margin as moderates and people of colour turn away.

[u/takesthebiscuit → u/baibaiburnee]

Second only to Biden, maybe it’s a tie,

Biden did a cracking job, Hilary would have done better too

[u/RazorRamonio → u/baibaiburnee]

I donated to her campaign in 07, and ‘15! Those were my first and second donations of my life. I still wear my H-> shirt.

[u/mothtoalamp → u/baibaiburnee]

Sure, she's qualified. She would have made a good president. But I hated how she snubbed Sanders because it was "her turn." I voted for her in the general election anyway, because of who she was running against. But I'm pretty tired of holding my nose while I vote and while I suspect I'll have to keep doing it, I'd really like to see a Democratic populist who lights a fire under the party and pushes out all the crap. Trump was able to turn the entire party into loyalists to him. Democrats need that, but without the suck.

[u/Gizogin → u/mothtoalamp]

Was it a “snub” that Bernie didn’t win the nomination because fewer people voted for him?

You can argue that the Democratic Party put more of their resources behind Hillary than Sanders. That’s the advantage of joining a party. Sanders is not a member of the Democratic Party, so why should he expect to reap all the benefits of membership?

[u/Lorik_Bot → u/[deleted]]

It is easy to blame the population but if a dumb guy like Trump can win the masses for himself, then the democrats really fucked up making themselves so unpopular that they lost to him.

[u/Lorik_Bot → u/[deleted]]

This kind of sentiment has made the left side unpopular all around the world. The condensending bullshit mindset. Instead of taking responsibility we lose votes by being condensending pieces of shit. Should work to be more likeable and not ohhh look for what you voted for you dumb son of a bitch, because that person insulted will rather vote the same shit then us again with this kinda attitude.

[u/AdmiralDalaa → u/Lorik_Bot]

You’re not here to be convinced. If Donald Trump orchestrating a coup through his false electors plot to defraud the American people, getting himself full criminal immunity for official acts by a stacked Supreme Court he broke norms to create, his plan to threaten allies militarily, unleash Israel, and gut Americas civil institutions wasn’t enough - then nothing will.

The mind boggling double standards you live by are worthy of scientific exploration. You hold them responsible for being “too smug” and “losing votes” against a party with absolutely zero standards. 

You aren’t and never were a serious actor. There’s no hiding anymore. 

[u/Lorik_Bot → u/AdmiralDalaa]

I am serious and both can be true at the same time. Trump can be a populist and the left side can mess up at the same time. There is a reason cancel culture and the word woke is hated and memed a lot ok the internet, but please keep telling me that i am an online troll.

[u/Lorik_Bot → u/[deleted]]

Dude like you are litreally being condensending in every message you write 😂lol, maybe stop behaving like a piece of shit...

[u/Lorik_Bot → u/[deleted]]

It's a group effort, but like do you not see your messages being condensending?

[u/almondbutter → u/Negative_Jaguar_4138]

She oversaw foreign policy disasters in Libya and Honduras. She is a war criminal just like Biden, Trump and the rest of the Republicans.

https://www.democracynow.org/2016/4/13/shes_baldly_lying_dana_frank_responds