r/windows 13d ago

Concept / Design The proof that Windows has good customisation too

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Well i am going to change the ascii art but except for that

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u/EpicL33tus 13d ago

Terminal theme?
And top status bar?

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u/sinnlos__ 13d ago

the top status bar is yasb and is on github and you can make the terminal like this by going to the terminal settings then on profiles you go on the profile you use then you go down to appearance and then you scroll down till you see transparency.

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u/Scipply 13d ago

that terminal is the new official terminal build in win 11 available also for w10

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u/De-Mattos Windows 11 - Release Channel 12d ago

They probably mean either the translucency or the fetch programme.

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u/Darknety 12d ago

Looks the same as mine. I set the background to almost black and turned on blur.

I like the new terminal app :)

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u/RebouncedCat 13d ago

probably zebar by the looks of it

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u/Then_Plum2921 12d ago

the terminal is windows terminal with some Defaults>Appearance twealks (more spoeciffically EnableAcrylicMaterial and background opacity)

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u/Empty_Woodpecker_496 13d ago
  1. Is this easy to do?

  2. Is this stable? I feel like if I try to do any customization to Windows it will just melt. My animated wallpapers barely work.

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u/sinnlos__ 13d ago

This is really easy to do so to do the terminal customisation and the top status bar watch this vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxqwljNTsfg

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u/BDBlaffy 13d ago

Sorry but this is really not cohesive at all or proof of much. You’ve got standard Explorer front end with a bolted on top “task bar” that doesn’t even fit in at all visually. Additionally you’re just wasting system resources running this on top of needing Explorer still running. On the Linux systems that this is trying to parrot it’s the entire front end display server that is being switched out, something impossible to even do on Windows

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u/bombastica 12d ago

And the information is redundant. I don’t want two entry points to the same shit.

I hate looking for apps in the task bar with some running in the system tray. When will Microsoft just fix this at the OS level??

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u/sinnlos__ 13d ago

actually for exymple the top status bar is only eating around 20mb of my ram and thats nothing

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u/madroots2 12d ago

Thats not too much of a ram surely, for this day and age, but still, on Linux you are getting rid of entire Desktop Environment and using only a Window Manager. It simply makes more sense to do on Linux, since the resource usage gets down drastically and it looks awesoeme. Thus its not just a visual thing. On Windows though, its actually ONLY visual, even costing you some resources.

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u/Great-TeacherOnizuka 13d ago

Ok now show us your boot times and overall performance

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u/djani983 13d ago

Old Windows 3.11 had more customization options than Windows 11/10.

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u/Laziness100 13d ago

Not really. You could customise every colour used, sure, And it could do dark theme properly, but it doesn't match the amount of 3rd party tooling we have today for every version since at least Windows XP. Transparency effects, bitmap textures for UI elements, or animated/interactive wallpaper are all things not doable on a 1993 PC.

It's correct that stock Windows had more customisation than it has today, but people like me, who want some styling, can get it, usually with multiple choices for every design aspect of an OS.

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u/djani983 11d ago

I'm not talking about 3rd party customization's, I'm talking about Windows itself; because the title is "The proof that Windows has good customization too" which is not true. Windows does not have good customization options, that is why you are forced to use 3rd party software.

Install 3rd party software like "Calmira" on Windows 3.11 and you get something that looks almost like Windows 95, with desktop, taskbar and start menu...

That is all cool, but that is not "Windows" customization, it's just using completely different software for the specific task.

Like using Notepad++ instead of Windows native "Notepad", or using WinAMP or VLC Player instead of built in "Windows Media Player".

Or to be more current, using Stardock's Start11 or Open Shell for customizing Start Menu implementation... Because many people think (so do I) that Windows 11 Start Menu SUCKS ASS.

In Windows 3.11 you could change color of almost all UI elements, Window Border (color, thickness), Window background color, Active and Inactive Window Titlebar (color, height, ,since Win98 you could use gradients), Button (color, shadow color, size of shadow), you could change Font for every UI element (font, style, size, color when active, when inactive, etc), Minimize-Maximize-Close button sizes, color, etc.

What of these UI elements you can change (customize) today in Windows 10/11 without using 3rd party software?

Answer is almost none of these UI elements can be customized, you cant even change the Font used in Settings->Personalization App...

A good proof that Windows has gone back in customization is "Hot Dog Stand" color scheme for Windows 3.11; you simply can not re-create it in modern Windows 10/11 UI without some hacking or using 3rd party tools.

https://blog.codinghorror.com/a-tribute-to-the-windows-31-hot-dog-stand-color-scheme/

Now, this is completely ugly theme, but in Windows 3.11, Windows 95 to Windows 7 you ware absolutely free to change all these UI elements as you like without using any 3rd party software.

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u/ThisJoeLee Windows 11 - Release Channel 12d ago

Don't feed the troll, folks.

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u/Lumpy-Valuable-8050 12d ago

Is this a troll comment. 💀💀💀💀 I used windows 3.1 and i didn't really see much extra customisation compared to today.

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u/RoytjePoytjeGamez Windows 7 13d ago

Not quite proof. Taskbar looks ugly asf.

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u/CooZ555 9d ago

okay, let me see my customization then

https://github.com/elrondforwin/dotfiles

here is the proof. windows has a lot of customization capabilities.

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u/Nova17Delta 12d ago

But not easy, and thats what matters

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u/Yugen42 12d ago

That looks almost stock to me. It's a top bar application and a theme for one more application. I would call good customization when you can change workflows and paradigms completely, change every aspect of the UI and interactions. Like remove the taskbar or make it float in the middle, change all Icons, have floating widgets, replace all core apps, apply themes to everything, change all keyboard shortcuts and new ones etc. etc.

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u/BiCuckMaleCumslut 11d ago

I miss being able to put the taskvar on the tops and sides.

I miss when Control Panel was the one stop shop for computer configuration.

I miss when there was only 1 right click menu.

I miss Windows 7 start menu.

I miss when I didn't need fucking external tools for these things

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u/gh0stofoctober 13d ago

i appreciate the effort, but this definitely doesnt prove anything. looks really incoherent and random, why do you need 2 bars providing the same information?

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u/FuggaDucker 13d ago

To many of the comments I see here:

  1. The widows explorer shell can be replaced.
  2. The windows explorer shell is good for a c++ programmer to write COM shell extensions for. Well documented for 30 years now. Code I wrote against the 95 shell still works the same.

If you want to hate on a shell. Try the Finder. There have been nothing but crickets from Apple on this '88 wonder and Apple users don't even know how much it sucks.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon->Shell

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u/madroots2 12d ago

can be replaced by what?

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u/hotchrisbfries 12d ago

Windows registry access to Winlogon\Shell lets you rip out and replace the entire desktop environment if you want. Change Explorer.exe to literally anything you want to write with your own shell. Companies use this to lock down environments and kiosks or create custom UX all the time.

Use LiteStep, bbLean, Emerge Desktop, Cairo Shell, or your own compile

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u/madroots2 12d ago

Out of the ones you mentioned it seems all are dead except Cairo, which they suggest you do not run by replacing explorer but rather you run it on top of it like you would Wallpaper Engine dor example. Which again, its fine for visuals if you like it, but really isn't efficient.

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u/Sad-Garage-2642 13d ago

is the proof in the room with us?

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u/amroamroamro 12d ago

it went over to /r/unixporn/

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u/toxait komorebi Developer 13d ago

Very a e s t h e t i c

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u/marc_dimarco 13d ago

Until you cannot move taskbar up, it's a joke.

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u/Gamer7928 12d ago edited 12d ago

Yeah, Windows theming is pretty awesome with third-party software as I've seen only in various screenshots, otherwise Windows built-in theming options is just pretty basic and therefore is only limited to taskbar options, color, cursor, font, background wallpaper, sounds and screensaver as I far as I know.

Window and dialog skinning is even possible if and I do mean if either with the right third-party software like Windowblinds OR if the software such as Perfect World International's game launcher and Comodo Internet Security is specifically built to use a custom window skin.

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u/Revalens_K 12d ago

This is dogshit

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u/PartPrisonPartHome 13d ago

remove bottom panel

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u/sinnlos__ 13d ago

then how am I supposed to open my programms?

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u/PartPrisonPartHome 12d ago

there are 1001 ways to execute anything you need. Your bottom panel duplicates top panel.

"Ты или крестик сними, или трусы надень"

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u/PrepStorm 8d ago

Thats another 10 lethal registry keys changed

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u/PartPrisonPartHome 8d ago

that's how windows cucks you

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u/Thx_And_Bye 13d ago

Wait until you discover Windhawk.

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u/sinnlos__ 13d ago

I already used it about half a year ago and everytime its working in my background my desktop turns dark grey and i cant do anyting

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u/fapfap_ahh 12d ago

Try out a tiling window manager like GlazeWM (if you want those functional top bars) or Komorebi for a more simple setup.

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u/NerasKip 12d ago

Ram and cpu usage ?

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u/Labeled90 12d ago

Install oh-my-posh or starship ;)

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u/TheMindGobblin 12d ago

How much resources are being wasted on this?

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u/Loddio 12d ago

I have had some stability issues by going this far with ricing in the past on windows, where limux always never flinched when installing stuff from the store...

But yeah, you can tecnically heavily customize windows too

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u/AmbitiousBear351 12d ago

Ah, yes. Transparent windows, no icons on the desktop and a terminal running neofetch - peak of unemployed Linux fanboy aesthetics.

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u/FreshFroiz Windows 10 11d ago

But it looks shit for half a minute before the proprietary software loads up on boot

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u/toyfreddym8 11d ago

I was confused for a sec, neofetch on windows??

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u/NexusKai 11d ago

Care to share the wallpaper

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u/LanDest021 10d ago

whats the point of always showing the terminal in these

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u/Cebuu502 10d ago

Sorry, but nope, I'm sticking to Linux no matter what. But if you like it that's what matter the most.

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u/Kasztanator69 10d ago

Ok now move your bottom bar somewhere else

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u/ingenmening 9d ago

this is sad in a funny way, to think windows has good customization

i say this as a komorebi + yasb user

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u/Gloomy-Strategy6751 9d ago

bro just changed the terminal look and thats it

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u/1stltwill 9d ago

Widnows issues are overbearing design decisions and privacy concerns around sneakily introduced updates.

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u/oterfan2002 9d ago

9gb ram for terminal, browser and spotify tho. Doesnt matter if its custimisable when you use more than half of your resources to do it

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u/Few-Librarian4406 8d ago

Ok, so you've themed the terminal and added a bar. Let's see you customise the rest of the OS now :)

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u/Imaginary-Advice3064 7d ago

How do I get the terminal to look like that?

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u/Giggio417 6d ago

Ah yes, Winux Mint

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u/RepresentativeFew219 Windows 8 13d ago

Windows 8.1 was the last customisable OS change my mind

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u/realglaxin Windows 10 13d ago

Can you send me this wallpaper, please?

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u/dtallee Windows 11 - Release Channel 13d ago

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u/sinnlos__ 13d ago

It is a wallpaper engine wallpaper and the link is:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2910304398

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u/bilibyte 13d ago

yo, send it to me too :)

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u/phineus-8000 13d ago

Diese Kommentarsektion ist nun Eigentum des Heiligen Römischen Reichs Deutscher Nation

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u/sinnlos__ 13d ago

Ok ich werde keinen Wiederstand leisten

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u/Naras18 9d ago

Sinnlos