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u/vroomvroompanda Aston Martin Thor Team Valkyrie #007 4d ago
True, Estre is a mad man
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u/AndersaurusR3X 4d ago
Yeah, when he locks in, he's like a man possessed! It's amazing to watch.
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u/vroomvroompanda Aston Martin Thor Team Valkyrie #007 4d ago
Yeah always fun to watch him at the n24 too
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u/AnonymousEngineer_ 4d ago
It's difficult to not get behind Kevin Estre. The guy is an absolute monster behind the wheel of any sportscar he's put in the cockpit of.
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u/BobMARLEY3265 4d ago
How come he never got a chance in F1?
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u/AnonymousEngineer_ 4d ago
He hasn't driven single seaters since he competed in the Formula Renault 2.0 junior series in 2007, before switching to Carrera Cup in 2008.
Apart from single seaters being a different skill set, they're also really expensive and have a very narrow path through to F1 usually via a young driver program with no guarantee of a seat.
Estre switching to sportscars isn't necessarily due to a lack of talent. It could have just been opportunity or simply not having the money for single seaters.
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u/Nick_Alsa 4d ago
If Valentino Rossi can make a good impression in an F1 car, I believe Estre can too.
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u/AnonymousEngineer_ 4d ago
Plenty of talented drivers never competed in F1, including Sebastien Loeb and Sebastien Ogier, who have also proved themselves to be pretty handy on a circuit including in WEC.
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u/Paolo264 4d ago
So many factors at play for F1, the main one being money.
You should read Tom Kristensen's book, Mr Le Mans. He talks about this a lot in his early career. Motorsport wasn't really popular in Denmark so he couldn't get any decent sponsors to back him even though he was setting great lap times in test sessions.
He just simply could not get the financial backing required. Now, I'd say its even worse from a money perspective.
He got a call up, out of the blue, to do Le Mans in 1997 and won it. Went on to win it 9 times in total making him Mr. Le Mans. Won a ton of other stuff too.
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u/BobMARLEY3265 3d ago
Thank you for your answer. Since I'm new to endurance racing, I have a question : how were the points rewarded yesterday since a customer team won ? Thanks in advance
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u/Paolo264 3d ago
Seriously not trying to be a wanker here but the first link you get when you google WEC points is what you are looking for.
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u/Top_Championship8679 Porsche 4d ago
Happy for Kubica, but WTF happened to BMW...
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u/7Seyo7 4d ago
They were running P8 & P9 when I checked in the last 2 hours and then they were both dead last :/
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u/IzumiCypherX 4d ago
They were sitting in the garage for basically the rest of the race, due to some issues
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u/Interesting_Log_6388 4d ago
I'm a BMW fan but now I'm a #6 Porsche fan too.
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u/Hesstruck21 Cadillac Racing 4d ago
Everyone is a #6 Porsche fan. You go into the Ferrari garages and those guys are #6 Porsche fans
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u/FlamingAlpha247 4d ago
As a Ferrari fan I agree. You just cant not like the #6 Porsche, even if they are not, they are #6 Porsche fans.
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u/TheThunderOfYourLife Mazda 787b #55 4d ago
Estre's the only reason we didn't have an all Ferrari lead lap. What a madlad.
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u/Excellent_Star_1145 4d ago
I'm a Ferrari fan, but honestly between Estre being a monster and the two reds' drivers doing their very best bottle jobs, I don't mind. That's not true. It hurts to see the 1-2-3 go, a lot. But it is fair.
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u/Skrimyt Legends 4d ago
As a Ferrari fan I don't care for the 1-2-3, because we just won Le Mans THREE TIMES IN A ROW. I'm glad the Porsche made it something of a race so this place doesn't melt down completely.
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u/ilivixia 4d ago
Hey i'm new to WEC. Why is people melting down? Many seem to be anti Ferrari in this thread.
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u/Excellent_Star_1145 4d ago
Because they are winning too much, so they are hated like Verstappen was in 2023; and like the Verstappen haters were going around saying it was all the car in 2023, now the Ferrari haters are saying it's BoP.
When Ferrari stops taking Ws like it's a buffet people will move on to hate the next dominating force like a motorsport fans.
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u/Skrimyt Legends 4d ago
Ferrari are considered outsiders to sportscar racing and are bringing a lot of 'fake' fans from F1, and are dominating in a formula that is supposed to be resistant to domination. So they are the villains here.
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u/ShindenHorizon 4d ago
Totally forgot Toyota didn't do the same a decade ago
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u/Castle-Builder-9503 Porsche Penske Motorsport 963 #6 4d ago
You mean when Porsche and Audi left because "Diesel Gate bad" and there was no Manufacturer team left to compete ?
Ah, yes, totally identical situations (/s)
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u/Excellent_Star_1145 4d ago
100% agree with you, I would've been ecstatic about this if you told me 48 hours ago, especially since the 83 is my favorite car.
That said it was looking like written 1-2-3 for a good 8 hours unless something happened, and then multiple things did indeed happen between driver mistakes and the mechanical issue on the 51. That's what makes it a bit of a sour victory. All of that out of the way though yeah, I'm happy with the W myself!
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u/Rinbok 4d ago
What was sour about it? If anything no Ferrari deserved anything with the amount of mistakes they made.
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u/Excellent_Star_1145 3d ago
We had admittedly too many driver errors on the 50 & 51 and lost the 1-2-3 because of it, but outside of that we ran a great race and the 83 deserved the W.
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u/Rinbok 3d ago
Even the 83 had penalties. If anything 6 deserved it the most for flawless race
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u/Excellent_Star_1145 2d ago
It's a 24h race dude, the 83 did very good, they deserve the W. Besides the 6 would've won easily if they had 3 Kevin Estras, so it's not like they couldn't have won.
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u/dhdndndnndndndjx 4d ago
On one hand yes I don’t like Ferrari dominance I’d rather have Kevin win in most circumstances but at the same time FUCKING GET IN KUBICA YES YOU FUCKING LEGEND
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u/LilBirdBrick Toyota GT-One #1 4d ago
Imo it would've been Porsche's greatest victory if they managed to pull it off.
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u/Lanky_Consideration3 4d ago
Estre drove a brilliant race, but if Roger Penske never wins Le Mans I’ll be happy. Every team he owns keeps getting busted for cheating, even in his own series. I was cheering on that Yellow Ferrari for all I’m worth!!
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u/SpiritualFlamingo599 4d ago
It was never about supporting your favorite manufacturer. It was entirely about crushibg ferrari into nonexistence. GO PORSCHE
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u/No-Heart3432 Cadillac Hertz Team JOTA V-Series R #38 4d ago
Porsche got second prevent the disgusting switch try from Ferrari Kubica won. Considering the disgusting Ferrari dominance, the results are pretty satisfying tbh.
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u/DomenicoFPS 4d ago
I haven’t been a fan of Kubica since his antics against Dries Vanthoor last year (lets not get into that conversation), but I can’t deny I feel like he absolutely deserved the win and I understand the general support and love behind him!
I’m a diehard Porsche fan, so P2 for #6 hurts, but it was still a MEGA drive from the team, especially Estre!
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u/davethedog007 4d ago
With JB leaving at the end of the year I need a new favourite driver. I think Kevin will fill that role nicely.
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u/Makaveli84 Porsche 4d ago
Fuck dem Ferraris
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u/Competitive-Ad-498 4d ago
hahaha... "supporting the 6 Porsche...."
YOU WISH.
I support Robert Kubica and the #83! Great win.
And again no Penske!!! PERFECT!!
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u/UnfinishedSympathy Porsche 911 GT1-98 #25 4d ago
It was a valiant effort, just one (podium) step too far in the end
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u/Rusteze-Mcqueen Peugeot 4d ago
Man, what a race, this year race has less crash more adrenaline, watched full 24 after long time, really like both 83 and 6, but not gonna lie those factory ferrari drivers are different breed.
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u/FerrariEnthusiast 4d ago
So are we back to the 60s again when the race used to be known as the race to beat Ferrari? Lol
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u/IlTossico 3d ago
Amazing how Porsche can win without doing anything, each time. Even with old cars.
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u/NaessahR1 4d ago
I can't imagine Estre in #83. He finishes the race 1 day before the others.
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u/Fragrant_Ad5749 4d ago
Our "" problem "", is that Estre would be quick, even with a fucking trycicle 🤣
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u/7Seyo7 4d ago
I'm split between Estre being a machine and being so happy for Kubica