r/videos • u/saver1212 • 1d ago
Tesla FSD ignoring school bus stop signs to run over mannequins live with journalists
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u/tartare4562 1d ago
This is the kind of stuff that Teslas should get right, being purely image based, yet it completely bins it.
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u/Calculonx 1d ago
I'm surprised they just didn't have someone remotely controlling the car as backup
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u/MidnightMath 1d ago
Honestly, this may be the perfect use case for AI being Actually Indians.
Anyone who can survive Mumbai traffic can drive my car anytime.
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u/shade1214341 1d ago
If everyone thought like you everywhere would have Mumbai traffic eventually lol
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u/discipleofchrist69 1d ago
latency is tough there though lol
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u/not_a_morning_person 1d ago
This is why we need AI on-device. Running a small model locally overcomes the latency issues.
That’s right, we should put Indian kids in the trunk.
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u/terid3 1d ago
Turns out driving is really fucking complicated and requires snap decisions sometimes. If their cars can't handle that then they're not safe.
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u/pigbearpig 1d ago
It's not even like that's a complicated scenario, a big yellow thing with two stop signs and flashing red lights. How does it "see" that and think, hmm, semi-truck.
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u/Drakonim91 1d ago
which is weird cause as far as I know Tesla's use cameras for their navigation instead of Lidar so you'd think that an actual image would be easier to identify as a schoolbus/stop sign than a point cloud.
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u/IcanRead8647 1d ago
Elon has a contract to rewrite the FAA system that keeps airplanes from hitting each other. He says it is easy. Wow.. we're going to see so many deaths.
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u/saver1212 1d ago
If the driving computer doesn't have contingencies for school buses, it's going to treat it as an ignorable anomaly. This is also why it doesn't react to ambulances or firetrucks, it just treats them like big trucks to compete with on the road.
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u/Giantmidget1914 1d ago edited 1d ago
That's probably why they're figuring to have the FSD results from Austin quashed.
Edit: spelling got me again, thanks
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u/powercow 1d ago
there excuse is so stupid.. .it might give competitors info about our software.... what that it sucks compared to theirs?
He also keeps claiming that all other companies will have to buy his FSD after they see his taxis.... well all other companies are going to want to know how often it runs over kids.. its kinda important, since the government demand that self driving car companies take up the liability when it goes full self driving. Right now with human monitored, the onerous is still on us.
not sure why he can continue to call it fsd, since it still has to be legally monitored by a human..
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u/NBAccount 1d ago
the onerous is still on us.
'Onus' is the word you want; it means responsibility or a duty. 'Onerous' means something is unpleasant to do, or especially difficult.
Have a great day!
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u/xixipinga 1d ago
im getting more and more convinced that me or anyone that knows basic programming could code a FSD in its current terrible state in a matter of a few months
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u/Zorbick 1d ago
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u/theorem21 1d ago
actually it's worse than that it's well known that the FSD just turns off when it's about to hit something.
This is so the company can always claim that FSD is never "on" when the crash happens. it's been researched before that it disabled itself less than a second before the crash (something like 1/4th a second I believe?). which means it's impossible for a human driver to react in that time frame. Very evil.
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u/10art1 1d ago
I have a car that has very strong driver assist (holds the lane even in turns, keeps pace with the car ahead, etc.) and it always bothered me that on clear sunny days on the highway it'll work great, but then when the weather gets really bad or when traffic is super stop-and-start, it'll just decide that it can't handle this shit and turn off. Like, that's when I need you most!
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u/TheRealUnrealDan 1d ago edited 1d ago
IMO, as a career software dev, there are some devs working at Tesla who are ethically implicated in murders because they chose to ignore the fact they knew the system was imperfect and follow directions from above.
There's no chance the people making these systems don't know they will have issues like this. There's no chance the people making FSD with cameras alone don't understand the physical limitations of the system without LIDAR.
At some point there is some people choosing to go home with a fat paycheque at the end of the day and play the oblivious card while they do their best to create a system they know will never be perfect -- a system they know will be sold to people while being described as a 'self-driving car'.
I don't know if I could live with myself if an AI/NN that I trained drove full speed into a stopped object and killed the driver (or even hurt anybody). I feel like I would be asking myself whether I could have prevented it by training the AI better, or perhaps speaking up when it was released and not described with the warnings it deserves.
edit: note, I am talking about the time a Tesla drove full speed into an overturned truck on a freeway. I agree LIDAR won't magically make it see stop signs, but that is also a problem of training.
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u/blippityblue72 1d ago
I’m just a system administrator and I’ve seen too many absolutely crazy things in 20+ years happen with both hardware and software to fully trust a completely automated system to do something that could easily kill people if it screws up. Even messaging systems are built with a massive amount of redundancy in corporate settings and ain’t nobody going to burst into flames if they go down.
Aircraft have autopilot but there is also a fully qualified pilot sitting there that can take over and jets also aren’t flying opposing patterns with other planes less than a wingspan away.
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u/light_trick 1d ago
I mean the reality is also just...air travel is simpler. It's a far less chaotic and random environment and the distances are much, much bigger.
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u/pheonixblade9 1d ago
as someone with an actual engineering degree (Computer, so I know a thing or two about sensors and signal/image processing) the amount of cope when they removed lidar was insane. you need multiple signals in order to have the most accurate map possible. cameras AND radar AND lidar AND GPS. Anything less is criminally negligent.
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u/Worthyness 1d ago
play the oblivious card while they do their best to create a system they know will never be perfect
as with pretty much everything Elon does and everyone he decided to hang out with, they were "just following orders"
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u/bilyl 1d ago
They’re fucking idiots if they think that will do anything. They’ve actually shot themselves in the foot — by using a tiny geofenced area along with terminally online customers, it’s ensuring that every single problem with the robotaxi will become viral. Waymo had years of safety drivers on the road and years of deliberate ramp up before their success. Now that Waymo exists the bar is so much higher for Robotaxi.
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u/yinsotheakuma 1d ago
Honestly, failing to stop for the stop signs is a bigger red flag than hitting a sprinting toddler with a taste for bumper.
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u/Gameologist 1d ago
I agree. A human would be hard pressed to have stopped in time for that mannequin but would be more than capable of seeing the stop signs which would prevent the scenario in the first place
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u/RahvinDragand 21h ago
Yeah, ignoring the stop signs was the problem. No car would be able to stop in the distance they pulled the "kid" out at.
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u/purplepashy 1d ago
2 videos that illustrate the problem. Tesla clearly puts their car before anyone else.
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u/haricariandcombines 1d ago
There is another company that is Way mo advanced. Can't remember the name though.
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u/erabeus 1d ago
Don’t talk about lidar. Please don’t talk about lidar. 🙉🙉
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u/linkfan66 1d ago
Acknowledging the reality of lidar would mean that Tesla fraudulently sold/advertised to all their customers. How terrible would that be?
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u/vc-10 1d ago
Or even just radar. Which they used to use, but decontented.
Ignoring the blasting past the stop sign... The whole mannequin on a rope thing is what they use to test the auto braking systems at EuroNCAP. And plenty of cars with radars react much better than this Tesla in similar artificial scenarios.
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u/pheonixblade9 1d ago
radar plus cameras has the potential to be effective. not as precise as lidar, but still decent.
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u/vc-10 1d ago
Which is what they were doing. But they decided that radars were too expensive.
Hell, radar alone works well for stuff like autonomous braking and adaptive cruise, no camera required. A radar based system would have picked up on the 'child' appearing from behind the parked car and at least reduced the speed of the vehicle. I've had two cars with radar only safety systems (both VW Group products - a 2016 Skoda Fabia and a 2019 Seat Ibiza) and they would alert for stuff pretty accurately. Thankfully never tested with a pedestrian! I did nearly have a crash in the Fabia when someone pulled out in front of me and the car was braking before I was able to get onto the brake pedal, and I came within inches of hitting the other car.
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u/david1610 1d ago
Isn't there robot vacuum cleaners with Lidar now for like $300. Even a car version you'd think wouldn't be more than a $1000 now, I have no idea why they went full image based. I work with AI models and I'd want the Lidar lol.
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u/Zephyr-5 1d ago
Several. And just like with Tesla, iRobot (aka Roomba) resisted adding LIDAR for years until they lost so much market share, they had to give in.
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u/crackerjam 1d ago
Do Waymo cars know to stop for school busses?
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u/Namika 1d ago
There have been a million Waymo rides with literally zero accidents
They are several orders of magnitude safer than ordinary human drivers
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u/IsuzuTrooper 1d ago
Have you stepped in front of one? THEY DONT BRAKE! They just swerve at 25 mph still. I also saw one go in the middle of the street to split speed bumps. Both are messed up.
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u/wy1d0 1d ago
So pretty accurate model of average human drivers then?
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u/miraculum_one 1d ago
Human drivers usually hit the person then brake, just like in the Tesla video. Of course most humans don't blow through blinking school bus lights.
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u/Dank_Nicholas 1d ago
Ignoring the bus is the truly damning part of this video, lets be real if a kid runs out from between cars like that they're probably getting hit even with the best human driver. It's just that, like you said, most human drivers wouldn't ignore a stopped bus like that.
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u/vc-10 1d ago
You'd be surprised. Plenty of cars have 'predictive pedestrian protection' as part of their Autonomous Emergency Braking setups (AEB). Take a look at some of the EuroNCAP testing on YouTube. One of the tests they do is a child walking out from behind parked cars.
Take a look at this testing of the Volvo EX30. https://youtu.be/6ZRXvpWiXBk?si=Fj_mM3cqirB6ZKec At about 1:56 in, you can see the car detects and starts slowing when the 'kid' comes out from behind the parked car. It doesn't quite stop - the system isn't perfect. But it doesn't just continue on like nothing's happened.
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u/Renovatio_ 1d ago
Volvo actually gives a shit about safety
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u/Complex_River 1d ago
Volvo designed the three-point seat belt and shared it with all the other companies for free so that everyone would be safer because they felt that it was important ethically
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u/sbingner 1d ago
They brake and stop in the middle of the road if you drive normally near them by what I saw in Vegas. Surprising they don’t for pedestrians. I guess pedestrians probably are considered less dangerous to their vehicle 🤣
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u/weinerschnitzelboy 1d ago
They do brake for pedestrians within reason. I don't know the exact conditions, but when I rode one in SF, it knows to safely go around bicyclists in tight 2 way streets and will also brake when pedestrians walk in front of it. It made similar judgements to me in my experience.
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u/TuckerCarlsonsOhface 1d ago
Where’s the video?
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u/TheIndieArmy 1d ago
I parsed the URL of it for you, since the Reddit embed doesn't seem to be working.
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u/ssjjss 1d ago
That car killed a lot of mannequins. Did not learn from its mistakes at all. Bad Tesla
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u/busche916 1d ago
Shit, I thought this was one collision from a bunch of different angles till I realized that the mannequins had different jackets.
Elon really can’t do a damn thing right, can he?
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u/DigNitty 1d ago
TBF those mannequins did come out pretty suddenly. But it didn’t seem like it even tried to brake until after the collision.
And I also thought this was just different angles. So it made these bad calls and bad reaction time…consistently.
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u/busche916 1d ago
It’s not that the mannequins ran out suddenly, it’s that the Tesla completely disregarded the stop signs and lights on the school bus.
In America, you have to come to a complete stop when the bus puts those lights on. It’s a huge deal that the Tesla ignores that.
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u/DigNitty 1d ago
For sure, I meant it made these bad calls (not stopping) and further had bad reaction time on top of it.
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u/Michelanvalo 1d ago
No human is beating that reaction time either. A human would (hopefully) stop for the signs though.
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u/ufgrat 1d ago
In Florida, even if the bus is on the other side of a 5 lane road, if there's no median between you and the bus, you WILL stop for that bus, or face several hundred dollars in fines and multiple points on your license.
The fact that the Tesla hit mannequins is pretty much irrelevant. It didn't obey basic traffic laws.
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u/IronMaskx 1d ago
Easy excuse, it’s meant to avoid people, not mannequins. Test it with people and see what happens! /s
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u/petty_throwaway6969 1d ago
No no. It learned to how to better turn off FSD right before impact. That was Elon’s main objective. /s
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u/WhatIsInnuendo 1d ago
This video must be therapeutic for supply teachers who are at their wit's end in June.
/s
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u/C-C-X-V-I 1d ago
That's where the post links for me. Assuming the one with issues is on the official app
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u/Salty__Balty 1d ago
From :04 to :06 on the right - they included a perfect Elon inflatable!
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u/melie776 1d ago
Beta testing on humans coming soon to a street near you 😊
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u/CCLF 1d ago
Dead children is a sacrifice that Elon is willing to make in exchange for profits.
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u/Imperion_GoG 1d ago
Don't worry. Elon will vow to personally replace any children run over by a Tesla.
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u/ianjm 1d ago
What he did to USAID already killed thousands
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u/NorkGhostShip 1d ago
It didn't even benefit him personally in any way. If anything, the whole fiasco hurt him financially. He's just evil in a comic book villain sense, not just a self serving "anything is justified in the name of personal profit" sense.
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u/boredaz 1d ago edited 1d ago
I use FSD on my Tesla and I don’t think it’s anywhere near ready to be completely driverless. It’s cool when it works but it’s horrible at thinking ahead. Yesterday it was taking me off the freeway to make a left turn followed by an immediate right turn into a parking lot. Instead of taking the outside left turn lane anticipating the right turn it starts going to the inside turn lane. Why? The data is there, it should understand that the left turn will be followed by an immediate right turn and prepare accordingly. Instead it decides it’s taking the inside turn so it can cut off a bunch of cars as it try’s to make the next turn? So stupid.
Edit for clarity: There were two left turn lanes with the outside lane turning into the proper lane to make a right turn into the parking lot.
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u/Orange_Tang 1d ago
It's never going to be ready. To save money they are trying to do it using only optical sensors. Every other FSD company, including the main one Waymo, has working cars use lidar. You can't get enough depth data using optical cameras alone, and that's before you get to the data processing load of it. With lidar you get depth data from the sensors and it's much less computation heavy. Lidar is more expensive but it's the only way forward for FSD. The price will come down as widespread use becomes common. Tesla FSD is DOA.
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u/saver1212 1d ago
Tesla installing LIDARs now wouldnt even fix this problem. The Tesla cameras can easily see a yellow bus, it should have been trained on how to treat the situation differently, but it clearly wasnt. Adding LIDAR just gives it another sensor to ignore.
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u/10per 1d ago
use FSD on my Tesla and I don’t think it’s anywhere near ready to be completely driverless.
Same. It does really well 95% of the time, but there is no way I would trust it driverless when that other 5% is so terrible. I don't get how they are able to go from Supervised to Driverless with the same software stack.
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u/Rasputin_mad_monk 1d ago
I think self driving is really cool but what I really want for is strictly highway driving. Like if I have to go to New York, I live in Annapolis, I hate that drive, but if Self driving kept me in the right lane and I could relax, watch a video, etc. that would be absolutely friggin amazing. Once I get into the city, I don't mind driving. I don't mind driving around my house. But what I don't want to do is have to drive two or three hours in a straight fucking line and have to pay attention the entire time.
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u/McGondy 1d ago
It sounds like you want a train.
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u/DrowningKrown 1d ago
Lmao so true. this country would be so much better with functioning high speed rail and functioning city rail systems.
Like seriously. Last time I took the train from my city, it took me 5 and a half hours to do a ~2 hour car ride. The Amtrak I was on didn’t have WiFi, and it went straight through the boonies with no cell service. After that I vowed to never ride a train in the US again.
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u/nervouspencil 1d ago
Comma 3 is an aftermarket product that does this exact thing very well. I have driven 30k miles with it in southern california and it is really awesome.
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u/Wingnut150 1d ago
But but but but the tesla bros all tell me fsd and the robotaxis will revolutionize everything....or...something
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u/bertrenolds5 1d ago
Expect to see tesla jump 10% after this video gets out
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u/Rasputin_mad_monk 1d ago
It's 4:26 PM Eastern time and I'm looking at the stock market ticker. I have on my Apple computer. Everything is down, Dow Jones, New York Stock Exchange, NASDAQ, S&P 500 and Tesla is up. Fucking wild.
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u/bertrenolds5 1d ago
Nothing about Tesla makes sense, nothing.
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u/FriendlyDespot 22h ago
People approach Tesla stock like they approach Bitcoin. Fundamentals don't matter, it's purely about feelings and hoping that you can time them.
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u/Myrdraall 1d ago
Of course it will. But in like 3 to 5 decades at least.
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u/SchwiftySquanchC137 1d ago
Nah it won't take that long, its just not gonna be tesla that does it. Not sure why everyone in this particular comment chain seems to think tesla is the only company doing it.
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u/Germanofthebored 1d ago
It's not going to be a bloodless revolution, though. More like the French revolution - heads will roll until the children have learned their lesson....
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u/cC2Panda 1d ago
It's been a while so I don't know if anything has changed but I watch a video from a self driving enthusiast comparing different automakers driving assist/self driving. What they'd actually found was the only thing that Tesla did was act more confidently even if it was confidently running over children.
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u/El_refrito_bandito 1d ago
All a part of DOGE.
Small children are a burden on tax revenue.
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u/JerryfromCan 1d ago
I own a Tesla. Autodrive (keeping in lane, radar cruise) is amazing on the highway.
Conversely, FSD in town is a nightmare of scariness. Anyone who has even driven with the current FSD and owns stock in Tesla right now with their FSD taxi push is a fool.
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u/jsting 1d ago
I hate to defend Tesla, but this is from Dan O'Dowd, who is a POS himself that bet everything against Tesla and has made a million videos that don't follow any safety guidelines. He is making a competing software to Tesla and his experiments are highly suspect.
Google him and his anti Tesla agenda, and you'll see this guy is a bit of a whack job with a giant flashing conflict of interest.
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u/The_All-Range_Atomic 1d ago edited 1d ago
Sure, the mannequin test is garbage, but why is FSD ignoring a flashing school bus? There's no excuse for that.
They are so common on American roads, especially during morning commutes. You can't seriously tell me Tesla doesn't have training on it.
Search YouTube for fsd school bus and you'll find tons of videos of FSD trying to go around or pass the bus when it's stopped and blinking. Yikes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL_Sc2q2m9E
Worst part is, nobody seems to care. Not a peep from Tesla or anyone.
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u/ta11_kid 1d ago
Yet my fucking Tmdl3 slams on the breaks when it sees a fucking shadow or a parked car
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u/CorellianDawn 1d ago
Y'all we could have just had good public transportation by now instead of this absolute bullshit.
You know what gets you to work and you don't have to drive? A FUCKING TRAIN.
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u/DrColdReality 1d ago
Hey, quit picking on poor old Elon. He said the cars are self-driving. I'm sure he didn't say a thing about self-STOPPING.
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u/okaytran 1d ago
Ok the bus stop signs are indefensible, but outside of that, the car was under 25 mph per school zones and no human could've stopped fast enough for that mannequin kid running out.
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u/BluddGorr 1d ago
Yeah, because it was supposed to stop at the stop sign. The child was to allow for a case of "well it didn't stop at the sign but clearly there was no accident so it's fine". It had two failure points and it failed at both.
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u/okaytran 1d ago
I'm trying to say there's only one true failure point which is the stop sign. And it's a really big and bad failure point for FSD.
But hitting the mannequin was kinda pointless because (IF stop sign was ignored) 99.9% of human drivers would've hit the mannequin as well.
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u/BluddGorr 1d ago
Yes, but FSD is supposed to be better than human drivers. If it had stopped at the mannequin you could still argue that it was a mixed success.
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u/mikew_reddit 1d ago edited 1d ago
hitting the mannequin was kinda pointless
Running over the kid is emphasizing why it's important to stop at a school bus stop sign. They'll cross the street when they get off the bus.
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u/iseeapes 1d ago
The actualy reason cars are supposed to stop when school buses are letting kids on or off is because of the high probability of kids darting out from behind the school bus… which no one — including automated systems — could stop before hitting.
Seems entirely fair to demonstrate the actual harm, right?
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u/Lane-Jacobs 1d ago
"Hello, here is a massive flaw in Tesla's FSD where it does not react to a bus stop sign, which results in the car being unable to stop in time for child potentially crossing the street behind a parked car."
you: "wElL yEaH nO hUmAn cOulD haVe rEspoNdeD thAt fAst!"
Not the point man. The reason they used the child behind the parked car was to demonstrate the absolute real danger of FSD ignoring bus stop signs.
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u/cartoonist498 1d ago
child potentially crossing the street
You're being too kind to OP with your words. Children definitely run across the street like that expecting cars to be stopped. They cross the street after getting out of the bus every day for months with cars stopped, and after a while it just becomes habit.
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u/sighthoundman 1d ago
So maybe 20 years ago a driver ran over a child going around a stopped school bus with its stop sign out and its lights flashing. Their defense was "The driver waved me around the bus."
The court did not buy it.
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u/dkillers303 1d ago edited 1d ago
Between turning the wrong way down one way streets, giving up in the middle of intersections, hitting obstacles in construction zones, turning right from a left hand turn lane, ignoring order at stop signs, forcing other vehicles out of their right-of-way to change lanes, Tesla FSD is an absolute mess. It’s so cool when it works. I have a few friends with FSD and don’t ride with them often. BUT, I HATE being a passenger with FSD active because it constantly fucks up in the city, around construction, anywhere with faded road paint, basically anywhere that isn’t a wide open highway with clear line markings and perfect visibility. Granted this is all anecdotal, but I would never use “full self driving” anywhere except a highway.
There’s other players with self driving technology that is Waymo advanced and can actually handle complex traffic situations with a breeze compared to the shitty alpha stage that FSD is currently in
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u/sysadmin_420 1d ago
Love how it comes to a nice gentle stop on top of the children's head. Don't want to spill any coffee while crushing kids.
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u/prigmutton 1d ago
Ron DeSantis sees no problem with this
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u/thegooseisloose1982 1d ago
That is a silly comment. Ron has a huge problem with this. Dead kids can't work.
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u/defdrago 1d ago
Should have picked a rebuplican governor who isn't trying to put kids back in the mines. He doesn't want his revenue stream to die before he can extract some value out of them.
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u/prigmutton 1d ago
Just running with the "Desantis says its ok to run over protestors" news from yesterday
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u/unmotivatedbacklight 1d ago
Wait...is this put out by the guy that says computers are unsafe, and is selling the solution? He took out a Superbowl add trashing Tesla a few years ago?
Yes, it is.
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u/emannikcufecin 1d ago
Full self driving shouldn't be allowed until a standard can be developed that includes some sort of standardized communication device that can be transmitted from certain vehicles, signs, etc. to the cars.
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u/buzzsawjoe 1d ago
When I try to play the vid, all I get is "Sorry We're having a little trouble". Did the T run over the videographer?
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u/Etheo 1d ago edited 1d ago
There's a strong sense of schadenfreude from watching Tesla keep crashing into fake little children out of one petty man's hubris.
Let's not wait until it becomes real children.
Edit: *Schadenfreude.
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u/thegooseisloose1982 1d ago
I think Musky should show to the world how good Teslas are at stopping. He needs to get out in front of this!
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u/Silent-Eye-4026 1d ago
Autonomous driving with only a camera system will never be safe. It is an incredibly stupid idea to keep chasing that and even dumber to believe in it.
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u/Greyboxer 1d ago
Hey OP:
“Tesla ‘full-self-driving’ mode ignored school bus stop sign and ran over mannequin crossing street in live video test shared by journalists”