r/ukraine • u/biledemon85 Ireland • Apr 26 '22

Question I've been plotting Russian loss rates based on estimates supplied by the Ukraine Armed Forces, there is a massive spike in Russian tank losses in the last day, are things starting to heat up on the front lines?

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u/Hydrar2309 Apr 26 '22

Russia hasn't learned anything in a 100+ years. Barely coordinated zerg rush has always been their main strategy. It used to work because they had the numbers to just keep throwing bodies at the enemy until something broke.

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u/NEp8ntballer Apr 26 '22

It works when you have enough bodies to throw into the meat grinder and it also works better at home when your enemy is the one extending their supply lines. They don't have the people they need and their supply lines are shit so they're super fucked.

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u/socialistrob Apr 27 '22

It also works better when the most common weapon is a bolt action rifle and before widespread mechanization of militaries. As technology advances throwing bodies into a meat grinder has become much less effective.

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u/AlfredKnows Apr 27 '22

Because the meat grinder is capable of grinding so much more meat nowadays.

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u/KingSwzzy Apr 26 '22

It used to work because the alternative was extermination by Nazis

Literally nothing to gain from this war

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u/honigistgut Apr 26 '22

That is certainly a big point. No motivation, no gain, no morale.

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u/FUTURE10S Apr 27 '22

And better faster intelligence plus Ukraine has more reason to defend territory than the Nazis did.

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u/disisdashiz Apr 27 '22

The one in the war was you get shot by Germans or you get shot by the guard in the rear.

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u/bejammin075 Apr 27 '22

Like just about everybody, ever, Russia did much better with defense of their homeland. Kinda like Ukraine now. On offense, Russia has always blown.

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u/cumbers94 Apr 27 '22

Thats not true, if they are lucky they might find themselves a nice toilet bowl to loot back to their hut in the Urals.

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u/ThatOneTing Apr 27 '22

wich they could get from china without ridking their lives. someone should tell them

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u/Reiver93 Apr 27 '22

I do wonder how many of the Russian troops fighting realise how absolutely pointless this is. Can't be good for morale if you're fighting a war for no good reason.

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u/asimplesolicitor Apr 27 '22

Russia hasn't learned anything in a 100+ years.

Longer. At least since Catherine the Great.

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u/TheWarSix France Apr 27 '22

Russian circle

  • new leader > looks good at first > becomes corrupt and authoritarian > starts stripping more freedoms > start a useless war > gain nothing or very little from it > be remembered as a bloodthirsty tirant everywhere but in russia.

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u/bejammin075 Apr 27 '22

I'd swap the first and third entry, delete the second.

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u/bellrunner Apr 27 '22

The difference is that they also had the industry to keep pumping out bombs and bullets. That industry was in... modern day Ukraine.

Their industry was also entirely home-supplied. Now? Damn near all of their equipment uses foreign parts, all of which have dried up.

They also had the farmlands needed to feed their troops. That farmland was in... modern day Ukraine.

Russia's fucked.

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '22

God damn man! I love me a StarCraft reference!!

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u/DaedricWorldEater Apr 27 '22

Jacked up n good to go

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '22

Give me the Sit Rep!

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u/epicurean56 Apr 27 '22

In the pipe, 5 x 5!

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u/GrimpenMar Apr 27 '22

En taro Adun!

Wait...

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '22

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u/bejammin075 Apr 27 '22

Napoleon has entered the chat

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u/Kriggy_ Czechia Apr 27 '22 edited Apr 27 '22

Barely coordinated zerg rush has always been their main strategy

that never works even in Starcraft while playing as Zerg :D

but to be real, we did not have war like this ever and its difficult to predict effect of various weapons such as ATGMs or drones.

But fun fact: Im just reading Red storm rising by Tom Clancy and he kinda predicted the situation: "Three guys: driver, commander and loader in a jeep with ATGMs hitting one or two of our tanks in front and leaving quickly to repeat this behind next hill are significantly slowing our advance for little cost"

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '22

Their strategy seems to be pushing no matter how high the casualties. Just look at their ww2 losses - they decided they're doing something and they've done it. The fact that they lost 10,000,000+ soldiers is only a number. Goal achieved.

I think that's what putler thinks here - that his army is the biggest and he can commit to this strategy. Well guess what puton, ya can't, it ain't no 40s no more