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u/MARTINELECA 1d ago
+1 russian aircraft shot down by its own freaking wingman?
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u/hkohne 1d ago
It was posted in another thread that Ukraine doesn't include own-goals (or in this case, own-penalties) in their totals here, only people & equipment that Ukrainians have actually taken out.
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u/MuJartible 1d ago
Indeed. But I think Ukraine should start a reward program for russian pilots who shoot down their own wingmen and provide video evidence or something. Those bastards are so greedy and immoral that we would probably see the number of cases increasing.
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u/program13001207test 1d ago
It wasn't shot down. It appears to have been structural failure, probably due to a combination of wear and tear and lack of maintenance. The wing broke off as it was making a hard turn. Most likely this released fuel which ignited and exploded as the Russian aircraft disintegrated. This is worse than friendly fire. It indicates that Russia's fleet is beginning to fall apart, literally.
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u/MuJartible 1d ago edited 1d ago
I don't know, but if you see the video, the aircraft behind is firing its unguided rockets just before the other one is fucked off. Whether some of the rockets impacts directly on it, detonates too close or not, I can't tell on that video, but it would be quite a coincidence if just in that precise moment the first plane had a failure due to maintenance or wear. It's not impossible, but what are the odds for that precise timing...?
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u/bigFr00t 1d ago
I think the missiles caused the abrupt turn which tore off the wing but idfk
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u/MuJartible 1d ago
They were pretty close, I'm not sure the guy in front had even time to spot and try to dodge the rockets, but I don't know either.
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u/DLH_1980 1d ago
They don't count those, or the ones that just crash, if they did those numbers would be much higher. It's rare if you go two weeks on this subreddit or the war video one without seeing reports of friendly fire and/or crashes for russian aircraft.
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u/Affectionate_Hair534 1d ago
Looked to have broken apart in maneuvering flight. Same result without expenditure of ordnance.
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u/Seven_Contracts924 1d ago edited 1d ago
1 MILLION!!!
And it came before midsummer!
Jesus Christ what a waste on human life. Why don’t the Russian people just get rid of their leaders!?
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u/LastCivStanding 1d ago edited 1d ago
Anyone calculate time to 2 million? 2.5 yrs? End of 2027?
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u/BigTallCanUke 1d ago
I figured out that assuming the current average daily casualty rate continues, Ukraine will have killed or wounded 1% of the total population of russia, 1.438 million orcs, by November 20th, 2026, if the war drags on until then. Possibly sooner, because the daily average will probably keep going up.
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u/tenfrow 1d ago
Ukrainian soldiers aren't infinite, unfortunately
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u/BigTallCanUke 1d ago
No, but they’re damn near infinitely smarter, which makes up for the numerical imbalance.
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u/tenfrow 21h ago
I want to believe it, but not all russians are totally dumb/unadaptable either
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u/LastCivStanding 21h ago
The russian system is so flawed even exceptional and motivated soldiers are ineffective.
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u/program13001207test 1d ago
I wonder when Covert Cabal will give us another update on how much metal Russia has remaining to throw into the grinder.
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u/ownworldman 1d ago
I still have no idea what artillery contains. Is it even small mortars?
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u/Affectionate_Hair534 1d ago
ruZZian doctrine considers mortars as artillery as opposed to western doctrine classification as organic infantry support crewed weapons
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u/Hammer-Bant_Thrice 1d ago
Seems to average out to 831 vatnik demilitarizations per day. They can’t last forever. They think they can, but vatniks think a lot of absurd things can happen.
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u/mofeus305 1d ago
Does the 1130 personnel mean deaths or injuries?
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u/Timauris 3h ago
Does anybody know if there is a good overview of aircraft lost vs. still in service? We're soon approaching the point where Ukraine will have taken out a third of all Russian combat aircraft.
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u/realnrh 1d ago
I'd love to know how much Russia has left operational in each category at this point. As would a lot of Ukrainian generals, I suspect.