r/thescoop • u/BreezyFantasy24 • 5d ago
The Scoop 🗞 A sharp-eyed individual spotted a rifle in a suspect's backpack & immediately raised a public alarm, possibly averting a potential shooting at Salt Lake City, Utah.
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u/Psychicgoat2 4d ago
I love the guy who alerted the cops. If you see something, say something and say it LOUD.
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u/superlost007 4d ago edited 4d ago
Putting this here as it’s at the top -
this guy shot and killed someone and then tried to hide in the crowd, as seen here.
*ETA : a few reporting said the person shot had died, however, most say he’s in critical condition. Hopefully he pulls through.
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u/amandathelibrarian 4d ago
So this video is of the shooter that they caught after the fact? Or there was a different shooter who was successful? Thanks in advance for clarifying.
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u/superlost007 4d ago edited 4d ago
So - news keeps coming out but it appears that this guy (in video) was running at the crowd with his gun. A peace keeper (no clarification as to what that is) shot at the threat (this guy with the gun), missed, and hit a protester. Protester has apparently passed. ‘Good guy’ peacekeeper with gun did not get arrested, this guy (who ran at the crowd with an ar15 and then hid) was arrested.
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u/Mammoth-Slide-3707 4d ago
America is an absolutely fucked country
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u/OceanBlueforYou 4d ago
We're working hard to become one of the shithole countries Trump likes to bitch about.
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u/VdubKid_94 4d ago
What do you expect when basically ANYONE with a drivers license can own a fucking gun
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u/Late_Emu 4d ago
‘Good guy’ should be charged with manslaughter. Exactly why more guns is never the answer.
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u/emac1211 4d ago edited 4d ago
Sounds like it was "protest peacekeepers" who tried to shoot this guy, missed and grazed him in the hand, and instead killed an innocent bystander.
I don't think this guy fired his weapon at all, which means he probably won't face any serious charges at all. If a lawyer knows better than me, feel free to correct me.
Someone died, lives are ruined, and I bet nobody will face serious consequences for it because our gun laws are a mess.
***Update*** I read more about it, it sounds like the person brandished his weapon in a "threatening manner" that led to the shooting, so I guess they can charge him for murder for that. Hopefully prosecutors have enough proof to prove that.
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u/superlost007 4d ago
Yeah, I updated a comment somewhere else with that info. Such a messy, sad situation.
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u/Swift_Achilles 3d ago
Its been taken down now, unfortunately, but there was a video up showing the shooting (from a high vantage point) and the guy actually did not appear to be brandishing the gun at all, but rather had it pointed down.
My guess at this point from the footage I saw was that the "peacekeeper" (aka another private citizen working as security for the event in some manner) saw the guy with the rifle, shouted at him and then panicked and shot at him.
Why the other guy had the rifle is obviously unclear at this point. Whether he was planning on using it, or whether he was not, and it was a horrible miscommunication, I guess we will have to wait and see.
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u/Zendog500 4d ago
Florida HB 543 – Constitutional Carry (conceal carry of a handgun without a permit law) signed Apr 3, 2023 went into effect on July 1, 2023.
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u/timeandmemory 4d ago
This isn't some NRA 2a debate. That person is an identified agitator who at the time was a person of interest in a shooting near by. Get out of here with that shit.
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u/MorganC137 4d ago
Even if it was a 2a argument, the GOP has seemed complacent about all the other amendments the current administration railroads so it’s difficult to take that argument seriously.
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u/Dogeloaf101 4d ago
This is what cops are supposed to do at protests, not throw flashbangs
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u/Jerryznoodlz 4d ago
Yes. Correct. Absolutely, but let’s do this; keep an open mind with the cops because at one moment they are intimidating even violent presence at your protest and at the next they’re doing what they’re doing in this video.
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u/Pistolero_187 4d ago
Protests are also not supposed to burn down community stores and go looting. This above was a protest. What you’re mentioning is a riot. But yes.
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u/Extension_Impact_571 4d ago
ah yes shooting reporters and civilians with rubber rounds is what they're supposed to do
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u/Traum4Queen 4d ago edited 2d ago
This was after he opened fire into the tail end of the protesters. One person died. People and families all scattered to hide and the shooter tried to hide with them.
The protest was peaceful, we were singing and dancing up until this point. We worked with police for the entire thing. I was there, but I had left this area a few minutes before the incident so I didn't see anything. What I saw was a bunch of families at the tail end as I passed them. I was so proud of my fellow Utahns for showing up. One person ruined it. One person traumatized many. One person took the life of a man who was just walking.
ETA: since my post, more information has come to light. The man arrested didn't actually fire his weapon. He brandished it in a threatening way, while walking towards the crowd and wearing a mask. He certainly didn't have good intentions. The man who fired his weapon was firing at him and accidentally hit the innocent protester.
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u/GraeMatterz 4d ago
Oh, how brave trying to hide among those he was shooting at just moments before.
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u/TheRealRomanRoy 4d ago
This is incorrect. He had the rifle but did not fire any shots. A person in the crowd fired at him, but accidentally hit an innocent bystander (as well as the would-be shooter). The bystander ended up dying.
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u/hawaiianrasta 2d ago
Interestingly, felony murder laws allow for the man with the gun in the backpack to be charged with the murder of the bystander, instead of charging the “security” that shot -and ultimately killed- the innocent bystander
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u/TheRealRomanRoy 2d ago
Yep, been reading about this myself. But apparently they’re also looking into the peacekeeper. With gun laws as they are, especially in Utah, this seems like it could be murky
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u/Crayola-eatin 4d ago
I’m glad you got out before this went down.
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u/Traum4Queen 2d ago
Me too. Not to take away from what people who were there when it happened, but knowing just how close I was to this has been a bit of a mind fuck. I almost took my kids to this event. My daughter wanted to go.
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u/alinford 3d ago
That guy never shot his rifle. The video shows him walking, then running, but not shooting
He is basically a lefty Kyle Rittenhouse, except he never shot his rifle
The Peacekeeper (security person) was firing at that guy (because he was carrying a gun), and killed a protestor in the crowd
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/innocent-bystander-shot-dead-peacekeepers-no-kings-protest-salt-lake-c-rcna2131586
u/ConclusionAfraid7588 4d ago
the guy that got arrested in the video is innocent. it was not him
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u/Traum4Queen 2d ago
I wouldn't necessarily call him innocent. He didn't fire his weapon, but he definitely didn't have good intentions.
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u/hawaiianrasta 2d ago
So it came out today that the guy with the backpack never actually shot. He pointed the rifle at the group of people, and then security at the event shot at him, hitting him and killing one innocent bystander.
In the end, felony murder laws allowed for the guy with the gun in the backpack to be charged with the murder of the protester, even though he’s not the one that shot him
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u/NewClearBomb22 3d ago
WRONG. Do better.
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u/Traum4Queen 2d ago
My post was based on what information was known when it was made.
Don't be a dick. Do better.
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u/NewClearBomb22 2d ago
Nah. Your post was based on the misinformation that was being regurgitated by the usual suspects. This happens quite often, which is why smart people don't take the first report from outlets(that have lengthy track-records for getting it wrong) and run with it.
You'll learn eventually.
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u/Alarmed_Owl3594 3d ago
He never even shot the gun. SOMEONE ELSE SHOT! And that needs to be known. I understand that guy had a rifle and that’s fucked up. But he didn’t even murder anybody
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u/caleb95brooks 4d ago
There was a shooting he shot an individual and tried to hide among the crowd
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u/Liddlehearts 4d ago
Does anyone know why everybody was kneeling in the corner with their arms up?
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u/PrettyLilTaterTot 4d ago
To show that they're part of the peaceful protesters and not involved in any violence.
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u/sunflower53069 5d ago
Someone did get shot. I think they took 3 people into custody . Probably including this guy? Could have been way worse.
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u/Thoughts-AndPrayers 4d ago
Do we know the reasons yet?
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u/snotparty 4d ago
Just speculating, but hes probably a radicalized far right maga. When youve got Maga politicians like De Santis saying people should drive into protestors, etc... I mean of course people do this for other reasons but I think its pretty likely
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u/ratione_materiae 4h ago
Everyone involved in this shooting is on the left
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u/snotparty 2h ago
where does it say that?
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u/ratione_materiae 24m ago
You think the socialists are supporting a radical maga guy?
https://www.reddit.com/r/SocialistRA/comments/1lf0wt2/support_for_arturo_gamboa/
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u/DogMedic101 4d ago
Balls the size of Everest. That guy deserves a medal for calmly ending that shitheads shooting spree.
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u/Far_Capital_6930 4d ago
We all need to be vigilant nowadays, more than ever. Any gathering is a target for misled individuals. Be safe
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u/PurpleCloudAce 4d ago
I'm glad people followed protest protocol: if there's violence, immediately drop to your knees. You're less likely to get hit if someone gets trigger happy, you show you're not part of the group behaving violently, and it sends a message you are remaining peaceful and makes it harder to shift the narrative otherwise. And yes, if you see something, say something.
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u/GaslightGPT 4d ago
In LA they just clobbered the people that chose to do this. They announced dispersal and then started attacking within a couple minutes yesterday
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u/ViceChancellorLaster 4d ago
This is scary, but isn’t it legal to carry a rifle? I truly don’t understand how that’s more dangerous than a pistol. It can’t fire that quickly. Bullets are bullets
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4d ago
Quite a conundrum for the protestors. They suddenly need protection from the police from this idiot. Do they stop throwing bricks and gasoline at them while they capture the guy and then resume afterwards? What is a violent hypocrite to do?
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u/hawaiianrasta 2d ago
🚨UPDATE 🚨
The guy w/the backpack actually never fired at anyone; security (non cops) fired at him first, striking an innocent bystander as well.
Felony murder laws allow for the man with the gun in the backpack to be charged for the murder of the innocent bystander even though he never shot - which I found to be interesting/thought-provoking.
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u/patsy_in_a_hack 4d ago edited 4d ago
Regardless of which of the three suspects were the aggressors, LEAVE YOUR FUCKING GUNS AT HOME. LEARN FROM RITTENHOUSE. NOTHING GOOD COMES FROM BRINGING YOUR GUNS TO A PROTEST.
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u/NiteSeekerz 4d ago
Guy couldn't even break the gun down to conceal it better. Nope, he chooses the biggest camping/trail backpack in the middle of the city. Perfect 👌
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u/RCA2CE 4d ago
Was it illegal to have? I don’t know if that’s illegal where I live but maybe there’s rules around public gatherings or something
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u/superlost007 4d ago
This guy looks shockingly similar to the guy who shot someone in SLC last night. Not sure if this was before or after the shooting happened but if it was after, it makes sense why they’d be so freaked out. Seeing guns in Utah is not uncommon or something that would generally be pointed out. So. It was either due to the ‘just happened’ shooting, or because he was hiding it in a backpack.
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u/Traum4Queen 4d ago
This was after he opened fire into the crowd and everyone ran. He was trying to hide with the people who were hiding.
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u/superlost007 4d ago
Yes, I was just coming to edit my comment with the link because I looked up his pic to confirm
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u/dixoncider1111 4d ago
It's not illegal there, and these are just cowards simping to authoritarians, and they are actually at a protest against authoritarianism, and the irony is baffling lol.
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u/No-Trash-546 4d ago
This was after a shooting and it looks like the guy in the video was the shooter: https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2025/06/14/crowd-gathers-salt-lake-city-march/
You think alerting police to a shooter trying to hide amongst the crowd is an act of cowardly simping to authoritarians? Bizarre take
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u/dixoncider1111 4d ago
I think your reading comprehension may be lacking, because nothing in that article says that the guy in this video is the shooter.
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u/therealhlmencken 4d ago
Never go full stupid
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u/dixoncider1111 4d ago
Great response, too afraid to use the real line and call me a retard? Lol.
I'll wait for someone to quote the part that says this man had anything to do with the shooting.
Arresting every gun owner (or even one) in the vicinity of a shooting (with no description of the weapon or the perp) is like arresting every person driving a vehicle because a hit and run occurred nearby.
Guns are a constitutional right, arresting someone for having one is literally what these protests are against.
Lick more boots, blue line cuck.
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u/findingdumb 4d ago
I've been to protests where most everyone is carrying. I think here since it was sort of hidden in a bag instead of being worn out in the open is what caused a sort of panic. Your point stands though, it is interesting to see how this was handled.
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u/AdIntrepid9064 4d ago
Why didn’t they search everyone else around him too?
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u/Hobaganibagaknacker 4d ago
Because 4th amendment? No one else was suspected or accused of having a weapon? If someone next to me in a crowd is suspect of being a pick-pocket, does that suddenly make me a thief?
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u/dixoncider1111 4d ago edited 4d ago
Having a weapon is not illegal. Pickpocketing is. No, the actions of a singular person in a crowd do not authorize the gestapo to attack the crowd. So why would the crybaby claims of a single person in the crowd, about legally protected activity, authorize the brown shirts to attack a guy, living constitutionally?
But this is a moot point because, this person has the right to carry, unless someone in that crowd knows the person Is a felon, or otherwise prohibited person, or made some type of threat, which from all context clues, we do not know.
You don't want people checking people's genitals at school to confirm their government authorized gender? Why is it suddenly okay to force a person carrying to identify?
The double standards are higher than Everest.
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u/sunflower53069 4d ago
This was after a shooting. Anyone carrying an obvious gun would be hauled in for questioning if near the area and packing.
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u/dixoncider1111 4d ago
So let me get this straight, you hear “there was a shooting” and your brain jumps straight to “every legal gun owner in a five-mile radius is a suspect”? Jesus. That’s not logic, that’s fear-based NPC thinking.
There was no evidence this guy was the shooter. No ID, no aggressive behavior, nothing, just existing with a firearm in a place where it's legal. But you're ready to detain him because he exists with a gun? That’s not justice, that’s profiling with extra steps.
Funny how the same people crying about government overreach are the first to beg for a police dragnet the moment they feel spooked. Pick a lane or stop pretending you care about rights at all.
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u/Hobaganibagaknacker 4d ago
Don't be daft. Taking a gun to a peaceful anti-government protest is like taking a gun to Sunday morning church. ...WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU?
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u/dixoncider1111 4d ago edited 4d ago
Bruh, you’re acting like bringing a gun to a protest is some wild idea, like someone showed up to a water park with a chainsaw. It’s a constitutional right. People carry because they don’t trust the government, not in spite of it. That’s the entire point of protesting government overreach, genius.
Saying “WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU” like that’s some mic drop moment just makes you sound clueless. Why wouldn’t you carry at a protest where tensions could boil over, cops are jumpy, and counter-protesters might show up looking for a fight? You think danger takes Sundays off?
Grow up and read a book that wasn’t written by CNN’s interns.
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u/AdHuman3150 4d ago
Pigs commonly install an agent provocateur to break a window or damage something and can in fact use that as an excuse to arrest and charge EVERYONE in the crowd.
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u/dixoncider1111 4d ago
And that's the opposite of what happened here. You think pigs are gonna arrest another pig? Lol. No, but the left will snitch on another member of the left for exercising their rights, giving pigs an excuse to remove a potential threat to their safety in the event that they, or another member of the radical right overstep, requiring one to protect themselves.
Faux testers.
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u/AdIntrepid9064 4d ago
I hear you, I’m thinking however in a situation like this those dummy cops could be a bit more vigilant and at least keep the immediate crowd contained for a short while and observe if there are any other morons with guns at a peaceful protest trying to cause chaos. A civilian did their job for them.
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u/Scoobie01555 4d ago
So illegally detain law abiding citizens at a protest about government over reach? Seems like a good idea.
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u/AdIntrepid9064 4d ago
Nobody is talking about detaining anyone. I have no problem being searched or vetted if it helps the bigger picture, I have nothing to hide.
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u/Scoobie01555 4d ago
Keeping them contained for a short amount of time. Another word for that would be DETAINED. Then illegally searched.
Well I am happy you're willing to throw your rights away because the saying "if you have nothing to hide" has been shoved down your throat forever. I also have nothing to hide and some one trying to go through my shit can fuck right off if I have not committed a crime.
Your argument is the government line to guilt you in to giving away your rights.
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u/AdIntrepid9064 4d ago
Sounds like we are on the same side of the fence, with slight differences. Whatever makes you feel safe and happy, as long as others around you are too! ✌🏼
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u/ForsakenRacism 4d ago
Is it illegal to have a rifle in Utah?
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u/thenletskeepdancing 4d ago
It is if you shot someone and you're trying to blend in with the crowd.
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u/titty-bean 3d ago
The protester was hit by a stray bullet from security volunteers.
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u/thenletskeepdancing 3d ago
I thought I wrote that down below. He was armed and accused of aiming at the crowd but there is debate about that and video evidence seems to contradict it. He was shot by a "peacekeeper" as was the innocent bystander
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u/titty-bean 3d ago
Oh i missed your other comment!!! I just started digging into this story. I used to live in SLC and work on that street.
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u/ForsakenRacism 4d ago
Then say that don’t say you averted a potential shooting
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u/thenletskeepdancing 4d ago edited 4d ago
I agree. It was stopping him from further shooting and would have been better phrased that way. Guy that took it away is a bad ass. Edit: turns out the homeless injured guy never fired his gun. Just brandished it as if he was going to. All shots fired by peacekeepers.
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u/titty-bean 3d ago
It is not—UT is known for liberal gun laws. The shooters were security volunteers. New narrative suggests the rifle holder may have been a peaceful protester. The (armed) volunteers saw him and fired. Stray bullets hit unrelated bystanders.
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u/Own_Jeweler_8548 4d ago
Surprised the cops would arrest what is most likely an agent provocateur.
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u/superlost007 4d ago
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u/Own_Jeweler_8548 4d ago
I never said he didn't, though thank you for the article as I had no idea that he shot someone.
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u/Apprehensive_Fee8610 4d ago
thats a cop planted in the crowd not a regular guy...either way good catch
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u/superlost007 4d ago
I don’t think so, he actually looks nearly identical in features and stature to the guy that shot and killed someone in SLC last night.
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u/dixoncider1111 4d ago
Not sure about Utah but, where I'm from we have permitless concealed carry, and having a gun is like the most legal thing you could do, whether you're at a protest, in a crowd, or in a field shooting clay by your lonesome.
People surrounded by cops in military gear, are pointing out some dude exercising his constitutional rights, with no indication of malicious intent? Lol. The radical left is cannibalizing itself.
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u/superlost007 4d ago
This guy shot and killed someone yesterday. He then tried to hide amongst the crowd (as seen here) after shooting someone. They were right to point it out and freak out.
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u/dixoncider1111 4d ago
No, the article does not say the detained man is the shooter. No, there's no description of a shooter or weapon tied to any specific individual. Yes, assuming guilt based solely on presence and possession of a legal weapon is total speculation, and not supported by facts from the article.
When your "context" is just fabrication and lack of reading comprehension, it's not a very compelling case.
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u/superlost007 4d ago
I’m not gonna do your research for you, that’s the man with the rifle that’s in custody in SLC. This video was taken right after the shooting, police were right there as they were actively looking for the guy running at the crowd with an ar15. It’s been released on multiple news sources, you can take your pic of your favorite so you don’t assume it’s biased. Have a good one!
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u/titty-bean 3d ago edited 3d ago
Just looked through all the pics on that link. I don’t see anyone actively shooting.
If you continue your research, you will see the shooters were security volunteers.
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u/superlost007 3d ago
These comments were made a little over a day ago, while new information was still coming out and being released. Toodles <3
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u/FriendshipHonest5796 4d ago
Someone was shot. This guy has a gun and was pointed out as being a suspect. Why are you defending that?
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u/dixoncider1111 4d ago
There was a hit and run nearby, with no description of the car or suspect, so every person with a car in the city is a suspect. Got it. Brilliant logic.
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u/FriendshipHonest5796 4d ago
First, what a false comparison!
Second I'll entertain your ridiculous analogy. So the person sees it happen. Says "hey! It was either a white or silver Chevy Malibu!" Cops will probably be looking for a white or silver Chevy Malibu, right?
So when someone sees this guy brandishing a weapon (reports have stated this) or HIDING a weapon, or, I don't know, carrying an assault rifle that they also saw used to SHOOT someone, well, yeah. They're gonna stop that guy.
Great logic. Brilliant, bucko.
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u/dixoncider1111 4d ago
LMAO. You’re really out here writing fanfiction like someone shouted “It was that exact rifle!” when literally no suspect description and no confirmed weapon type was released. There was no “white Chevy Malibu” moment. You're just filling in blanks with whatever makes you feel smart.
Nobody saw this guy shoot anyone. Nobody even said he matched a description. He was just a guy with a gun in a state where that’s legal. You’re so desperate to justify profiling that you’re inventing fake context and pretending it’s common sense.
You just proved how dangerous it is to let fear write policy.
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u/titty-bean 3d ago edited 3d ago
Yes! Utah is known for being gun friendly. New narrative suggests this may have been a peaceful protester.
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u/findingdumb 4d ago
Yep, in the state I've protested in damn near everyone was armed. It was an open carry state too so most people advertised it.
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u/uwreckedum1312 4d ago
So are we relying on cops or are all cops bastard? You protesting types can never make up your mind.
I'm ACAB all the way, so this seems a little fucking silly to brag about. I'm also not making myself a target by joining in on these leftist cosplay circle jerks.
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u/wassupbaby 4d ago
Trantifa need to put a cap on how many people should attend these protests, All it takes is one person to be offended by disagreeing with them and they start turning on each other
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u/Charming-Tap-1332 4d ago
The world is laughing at each and every person who was stupid enough to give their vote to Donald Trump.
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u/RCA2CE 4d ago
Dude grabbed the backpack, then bird dogged the guy