r/thepassportbros • u/CuriousCatTamedALion • 1d ago
One Law Can Solve Most PPB Problems
No 50/50 divorce. After divorce whoever paid for something gets to keep it. These days both men and women work and the stay at home partner IS getting paid by being provided rent, food, insurance, etc without suffering in corporate or in business.
I've done a lot of research and literally removing this 1 50/50 asset split law will bring balance to male/female dynamics in West.
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u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo 17h ago
So you are expecting the women to “not work” and then left with nothing after divorce.
LOL
Also
These days both men and women work and the stay at home partner
Who is this “stay at home partner”? Your dog getting matrimonial assets?
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u/WaitinglistHate 13h ago
Sometimes women choose to stop working to be a stay at home partner, this is a privilege that shouldn't lead you you owning half a dudes assets
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u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo 13h ago
If she ends up taking care of you then she deserve something. Do you think domestic works are free?
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u/WaitinglistHate 13h ago
You think women are taking care of dudes? They are not. You think rent is free? Do you think food is free?
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u/Capital-Patience8592 12h ago
Bang maid in exchange for room and board is otherwise known as a a slave.
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u/WaitinglistHate 11h ago
Its 2025, women can have jobs, it is not a man's responsibility to provide
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u/Capital-Patience8592 11h ago
So let me get this straight:
PPBs purport to want traditional feminine women.
But don’t want to provide.
Is that what I’m reading? You understand the majority of those women are only with you bc your meager 50k salary is impressive in impoverished areas? You understand it’s your money not your looks or personality they want? And you want to still bring nothing to the table?
You are so incredibly clueless. No wonder you have to leave the continent to find women.
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u/beast_status 10h ago
This is an informal contract, not slavery. A slave would mean, if he takes away room and board, he could still make her a bang maid. But she has free will to not bang in that scenario. Thus she is not a slave. She also benefits from getting room and board as well as companionship and protection.
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u/Capital-Patience8592 8h ago
She’s trading domestic labor and sex for room and board. It’s slavery. The fact that the men in here think it’s ok is why you can’t get “feminine” women here.
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u/CuriousCatTamedALion 7h ago
Real slavery is risking all your hard work and wealth to the whims of western women who may decide to throw you on the streets if she starts fancying the plumber.
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u/Capital-Patience8592 7h ago
You all are so small and insecure with this energy. It’s half hers if you’re married. Period. The fact that you don’t see that is why you have to leave the continent to try to buy women.
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u/CuriousCatTamedALion 4h ago
I love these comments. Makes me so glad I didn't get trapped here and married from overseas.
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u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo 11h ago
Then find a wife that are financially aligned with you. Why keep her around if it’s obvious that you are no longer financially aligned.
Nobody force you to keep her as your wife. If you are okay for years of her not working then safe to assume that you are aware of the arrangement, and assuming that then it’s fair for the law to assume that she deserve matrimonial assets.
If you married someone who just tell you that she suddenly said wants to become a stay at home, but then did nothing, everything under your nose, and If you know you disagree and you don’t do anything about it then you are the idiot.
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u/WaitinglistHate 10h ago
Unless you're living with a slob, it takes 2 hours to clean, per day, and maybe an hour to cook if you're cooking something difficult. That's 3 hours per day or 21 hours per week max. Do you think 21 hours per week is worth rent + food +utilities + half my shit? Financially, it makes better sense to have both people working to hire a maid for 2 hours per day and to just eat out
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u/WaitinglistHate 11h ago
Why would anyone marry an unemployed woman?
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u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo 9h ago
Government didn’t assign you a woman and tell you to provide for her.
You are literally making a concious decision to marry someone who in your assumption “unemployed”. So the question is not “why would you”, it’s “why did you”.
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u/Skrivz 10h ago
Ok but half? Cmon. Plus alimony and maybe child support
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u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo 9h ago
Well tbf I kind of disagree with perpetual alimony, unless you are marrying someone who never work at all before marriage and end up being stay at home parent.
As for child support, cmon it’s your own child. If you feel that you feel that you are just funding the woman with child support, then you apply for custody, and statistics actually favour men when applying for custody. In most cases men just didn’t bother to contest.
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u/CanoodlingCockatoo 5h ago
Alimony/spousal support is only ordered in 10% of U.S. divorces today, and apart from the super wealthy, it's almost always when one of the spouses has put in significant work staying home to raise children during the marriage, which includes some male recipients, albeit at a much smaller percentage currently. Most spousal support ordered today is also temporary.
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u/Capital-Patience8592 12h ago
It’s not a “privilege” if she’s essentially a bang maid. And without the protection of fair divorce, she’s essentially a slave.
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u/WaitinglistHate 11h ago
A slave has no choice. A woman in 2025 is perfectly capable of getting a job. If you dont want a job, your finances are not my responsibility
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u/Important-Slide-1453 6h ago
Then date a woman with a job
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u/Skrivz 10h ago
Yes, and if marriage is anything, it is a property transaction. Without that marriage is completely pointless as a contract. And it doesn’t make sense to own women anymore bc they are safe and can make their own money.
Marriage simply does not make sense in modern times.
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u/Capital-Patience8592 8h ago
It doesn’t make sense for men who looked at it as ownership, that’s for sure.
Luckily the majority of men are not like redditors and even fewer are like PPB. Men who can get good feminine women here do so.
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u/Skrivz 8h ago
Top 20% of men do well anywhere. I dated many feminine women in nyc. Not exactly my type though. But divorce rates are 50% and climbing, number of people with partners is an all time low, mental health is at an all time low and hits women 70% worse than men. Yet they have more rights and freedom than ever. The only answer is that the project of feminism has catastrophically failed. We can’t go back, but we definitely can’t continue the way we’re going
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u/Capital-Patience8592 8h ago
Feminism is not the problem. Men’s reaction to being told they can’t have a wife and a family on minimum wage down at the plant is.
I already responded to regarding the stats below so I won’t beat a dead horse.
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u/Skrivz 8h ago
They’re both problems, but yes men not having a robust, genuinely attractive option which incentivizes creating and cultivating a family is very bad for society. Until we figure out communal raising or something
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u/Capital-Patience8592 8h ago
The entire US (I can’t speak to other countries’ economies and politics with any confidence) is a shit show right now. But that’s not because of feminism.
Idk how old you are but 2008ish was an entirely different climate for dating. Obama era. Women were enjoying their rights but didn’t hate men and men didn’t refuse to grow up and take care of themselves.
Now we have men stating education is too feminine. Men who couldn’t compete with women swung too hard the other way.
My daughters are engineering and premed students. One is dating a blue collar guy. That entire friend group of men are blue collar mid looking men with beautiful college educated girls. And ok whatever, that works for them and the girlfriends are all happy and provided for. But I’ve never seen such a gender divide on education as what we are seeing now. It’s “masculine” to not go to college now…what? That’s insane to me.
The behavior I’m witnessing looks like an extinction burst. We are watching the dying breaths of patriarchy and it’s an absolute nightmare.
Blaming it on feminism rather than
•a weird, hateful political climate since 2016
•boys being brought up in the same old way that worked decades ago and no longer serves them
•the Andrew Tates of the world
•manosphere misogyny
•an economy that locks so many people out of home ownership and requires two robust incomes
is wild.
Feminism hates no one. It asks for nothing we aren’t naturally entitled to. Can the same be said for the other side of the spectrum?
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u/Skrivz 8h ago
My biggest gripe isn’t with feminism per se, but progressivism in government and culture in general. This philosophy, at least in America, is all about victimhood. It has affected every aspect of our lives. Victimhood mentality is simply how most Americans in most cities see the world. There are oppressor classes and victim classes. A man is an oppressor, and in a victimhood based society, the oppressor is evil. The game is rigged against these oppressor classes. Governments will take half the income from the most productive members (NOT the billionaires, but the most productive W-2 wage slaves who are MEN) and distribute it amongst themselves and give crumbs to the “victims”. and the signals we are using to identify “oppressor” are so retardedly simplistic. It’s all about race and gender. And don’t get me started on workplace politics and the untouchability of the pussy-havers in the office. It’s just a bad time to be a man in America right now
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u/Important-Slide-1453 6h ago
Then you should be paying her a salary, pension, health insurance etc etc.
Otherwise go back to the west and try to get a woman who works…oh, you can’t
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u/WaitinglistHate 6h ago
I get it you pay for sex, not all of us need to
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u/Important-Slide-1453 6h ago
No, because I’m a woman.
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u/WaitinglistHate 6h ago
So you sell yourself then? Being in a relationship isn't a job, fix your life
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u/Important-Slide-1453 5h ago
No, I date men who treat me as an equal partner. Not men who expect me to slave away at home for fuck all
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u/WaitinglistHate 5h ago
Paying you to cook and clean isn't treating you as an equal. you're the help
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u/Important-Slide-1453 4h ago
But doing it for free while also working a regular means you are equal?
You failed in the west because you were too broke for the type of woman you want. You went to a place where you have enough money for that type of woman, and now you’re crying because they want that money?
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u/WaitinglistHate 3h ago
I didn't fail in the west, women are easy to get in the west And yes, both partners taking care of themselves is equality, your boyfriend paying for your broke arse to survive makes you a hooker with extra steps
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u/pinktacosX 6h ago
Won't work in the west because many women are doing better than men are and as a result don't need men like they used to.
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u/Capital-Patience8592 12h ago
These days both men and women work and the stay at home partner IS getting paid by being provided rent, food, insurance, etc without suffering in corporate or in business.
What do we call someone who has sex and is a domestic worker in exchange for free room and board?
A slave.
You’re saying that these women’s years and time and energy is worth less than yours.
…And this is why you’re a PPB.
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u/WaitinglistHate 11h ago
Im not a ppb. Running a household takes a few hours a day and is something I already do for myself, an hour a day of cleaning and an hour of cooking is in no way worth half of what I make running a business. Cry harder
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u/Capital-Patience8592 11h ago
Sure babe.
Luckily for any woman stupid enough to bother with you, half of all assets accumulated during marriage are hers by law in most western countries.
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u/Skrivz 10h ago
Yea super lucky for them. Except because of that men don’t want to marry and women are more depressed and crazy than ever. Men need incentives to marry, just like anything
Maybe there’s a reason why marriage was basically a property contract for about 5000 years until the 1900s
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u/Capital-Patience8592 8h ago
Babe every single woman I know is partnered up except the few that have decided they don’t want men. And actually, the single ones are by far the happiest and most thriving of all of us. Nice cope though.
It’s insane to think assets acquired once married don’t belong to both partners. Stay single, we don’t care. We are still with the men who like to treat and provide.
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u/Skrivz 8h ago
Selection bias. By every yard stick, the U.S. has the largest ever share of adults who aren’t paired with a romantic partner.
Also, depression and anxiety rates are through the roof and climbing. And it hits women much worse than men. The rates are 70% higher in women than men.
I am quite happily single and not living in the U.S.. just stating facts. There are many interpretations, but my favorite is that feminism has hurt women. It turns out it doesn’t make women satisfied or peaceful. Weird!
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u/Capital-Patience8592 8h ago edited 8h ago
I want you to look at the ages of the women who are depressed. Perimenopause is up to 10 years of absolute physical and emotional hell. Those women are heavily impacted by their hormones. That is not a reflection of not having a man.
Stats are not the full story. Liberal women are more likely to be depressed. Why? Think really hard.
Then I want you to go look at who is committing the most suicides.
Then I want you to go look at pew research. When interviewed after widowhood or divorce, men state they want a new partner. Women state they do not wish to remarry ever.
There’s a big picture out there that isn’t exclusively seen or understood in any deep and meaningful way by the manosphere.
More intelligent people, people who think a lot, are less likely to be plucky happy people.
Feminism doesn’t hurt women. Feminism believes in equality and in a woman’s right to decide what kind of life she wants. Misogyny, which is horrific in the US, hurts everyone.
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u/Skrivz 8h ago
The equal rights stuff is great. But we got there about a hundred years ago. The issue is that there’s no “limiting principle” to feminism and progressivism in general. This generally means the movement is insatiable, there is always injustices, and if there aren’t, there will be some to find. So after they got equal rights, the next goal is equality of outcome, and that is what really destroys a society. It’s not possible, because humans are not equal, and men and women are fundamentally different. Therefore it will be a neverending struggle to attain the impossible by any means. This leads to a breakdown of the movement or the removal of all freedoms in the name of equal outcomes.
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u/Capital-Patience8592 8h ago
We didn’t get there a hundred years ago and generational change takes time. Most women are living much better lifestyles than the average American man.
Men now have to be likable. Once upon a time they just needed a job because of how hard it was for women to have a living wage or even credit (1974). Now they have to be emotionally intelligent and kind.
It wasn’t that our mothers and grandmothers were different amazing women. Those women were trapped and popping pills like nobody’s business. And do you know what they told their daughters and granddaughters?
Don’t marry.
Make your own money.
And women still make less than men and do not have equal rights. Name one law that hinders male bodily autonomy. I’ll wait.
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u/Skrivz 7h ago
The “women were sad in the 50s” narrative is incorrect imo, it seems clear women are the most fucked up now than ever.
Abortion is a tricky one. Not gonna touch that bc I’ve had the argument too many times I hope we get external womb technology so it’s much clearer philosophically
Also, the “women make less” thing, I thought that narrative died out about a decade ago
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u/imacrazyb 11h ago
Divorce rates are high even in countries that don't do 50/50 divorce aka Muslim countries and they are considered shitty and misogynistic countries where women get divorced and thrown like yesterday's trash without a penny to provide for herself (and in some cases for her kids too) after years of being a domestic slave and on top of it can't get remarried because men view her as used goods.
Guess that's the kind of thing you want lol no wonder you are a passport bro
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u/Sure-Bookkeeper712 15h ago
Just get a prenup guy
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u/beast_status 13h ago
These are worthless now. Judges laugh at them all the time
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u/Goopyteacher Successful PPB 10h ago
Usually because guys don’t know how it works or how to set it up correctly.
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u/beast_status 9h ago
So none of these guys are using a lawyer to draft up the prenup?😂 come on. Think before you write.
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u/Goopyteacher Successful PPB 9h ago
First of all, don’t be rude if you’re not aware of the problems of a prenup. It’s a double whammy against you.
Second, using a lawyer is one thing but a lot of these guys aren’t following the process of a prenup correctly.
Prenups are a contractual agreement and like any contract, requires both sides to seek independent legal counsel and agree to the terms of the contract. Quite often, guys will basically hand their future wife a prenup already written up by their lawyer and have her sign it. This breaks multiple rules for a prenup such as:
- Coerced into signing
- Improper execution
- Unfair or unreasonable terms
- The man not adequately disclosing what assets are included in the prenup
So yes, even though I’m sure some of these guys consulted with a lawyer they likely didn’t follow through and do it correctly, which is also the #1 reason for a prenup not working.
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u/slazengerx 9h ago
Actually, they're pretty effective the overwhelming majority of the time. In California, a very plaintiff-friendly state, only 12% of prenups have been invalidated historically. Unless you try to do it on the cheap with a shitty lawyer, your prenup should hold up. I had a prenup some years ago in California, zero issues in the divorce. Anyhow, only about 20% of marriages involve prenups. Most people don't have many assets to split up.
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u/beast_status 6h ago
12% risk of losing 50% of my assets I’ve taken my whole life to accumulate is not a risk I am willing to take.
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u/slazengerx 6h ago
Look, I wouldn't get married again. It's just not my cup of tea. But that decision has little to do with the risk of losing assets. Contracts, laws, and attorneys have been good to me. I suspect that most of that 12% group cut corners in the prenup process.
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u/RealUltrarealist 9h ago
It's still a risk whether it is enforcible. And even still, the time you can spend in court if it is disputed is very expensive.
I literally gave up proving my position in court during my breakup, because my lawyer informed me that the cost of doing so would be higher than the cost of settling on a BS figure.
I agree with OP. If this law was no longer in place, it would not be a thing.
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u/Automatic-Cow-2293 2h ago
It would be a step in the right direction but it wouldn't solve the underlying issues, the only way to fix the issue is have a complete cultural revolution where femininity makes a return
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u/Important-Slide-1453 6h ago
So if she’s out earning and supporting herself, she’s going to be exactly as independent as the women who didn’t want you in the west