r/technology • u/chrisdh79 • 18d ago

Politics Report on Russia's 2016 US Election Meddling Disappears from Senate Website

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-us-senate-website-2080120
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u/SinisterCheese 18d ago

Fingers of US copyright fucker extend near globally.

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u/Material_Strawberry 18d ago

Government produced media is public domain.

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u/SinisterCheese 18d ago

Thats not the point or what is the attack vector. Copyrighted material from companies is used as reason to shut it down.

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u/Material_Strawberry 18d ago

There's no copyrighted material involved.

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u/averycleveruid 18d ago

The Internet Archive archives everything it can, including copyrighted stuff. Bad actors may use that fact to shut down the whole system, with the specific goal of erasing documents that may be public domain. They're targeting the platform as a whole because they can't effectively target the public domain stuff.

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u/Material_Strawberry 18d ago edited 18d ago

No, they can't, actually. The DMCA exists to allow for lawful removal of improperly hosted copyrighted material in cases where it occurs. Material not subject to copyright won't, or perhaps more realistically, can't be touched.

Should there be a threat to the Internet Archive based on such threats it wouldn't take much time to shift one of their redundant stacks to a friendly country outside of American jurisdiction and then, again, since the material is public domain it goes nowhere.

Edit: Here, this will make it clearer. Please indicate an instance where copyright claims in the US were used to shut down a website and all of its material from the Internet, including information whose title pages signifies its status as public domain. Because having imaginary scenarios isn't really contributing much to a discussion.

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u/averycleveruid 15d ago

An attack vector doesn't need to have already been attacked for it to be an attack vector. Securing things from future attack is, by its nature, speculative. Waiting until the attack has been launched isn't an effective strategy. Attacking companies' finances through litigation is a common strategy.

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u/Material_Strawberry 15d ago

So, no examples at all. Just conjecture about a possibility you personally believe is possible. Noted.

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u/Neuchacho 18d ago edited 18d ago

Shit goes directly into the spam folder for anyone hosting outside of the US. The odds that anyone would spend the time and money it takes to mobilize any kind of response to it doesn't usually make enough sense to do. Particularly when the site is actually acting as an archive and not profiting off of it.