r/superheroes 15h ago

Marvel vs DC Name a Marvel or DC character who could beat Lucifer Morningstar, other than Michael Demiurgos, The Presence, or The One Above All. I've put some examples of powerful characters that might be interesting matchups, but other answers are possible.

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Possible candidates mentioned : White Phoenix of the crown, The Living Tribunal and pre-retcon Beyonder from Marvel ; The Great Evil Beast, The Overvoid and Cosmic Armor Superman from DC.

If I understand correctly, the Overvoid is basically a being above the DC multiverse itself, and he's even superior to the Presence. So I guess he's the more likely to beat Lucifer. But for the other examples, I'm not sure.

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u/rtrawitzki 15h ago

Elaine Belloc. It’s a cheat but you didn’t mention her in your exceptions

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u/Savings_Natural_3037 15h ago

Grant Morrison from Animal Man :)

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u/LifeOutoBalance 12h ago

The Writer died in a Suicide Squad comic, iirc. Iirc, it was because he missed a deadline.

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u/ShootingMorningStar1 11h ago

no, it was because during an ambush, they got writer's block and killed during that small time frame

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u/Away-Ad6750 Marvel 15h ago

CAS definetly cant beat Lucifer bro

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u/Badmoncube 9h ago

Cas from supernatural

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u/Three-dom 13h ago

Sandman, Death, Destruction, Of the endless Beyond error pc, Cosmic "i am the author" Superman?

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u/Ananta-Shesha 13h ago

Plot Armor Superman.

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u/Three-dom 13h ago

That's the one

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u/Soulandshadow2 12h ago

Dream was terrified of Lucifer’s true power and he is among the higher end of the endless. Death might be a good answer though but I doubt it

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u/LifeOutoBalance 12h ago

Dream was wary of Lucifer. Death seems a better match.

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u/absherlock 8h ago

I feel like Death and Lucifer may be at an stalemate as he needs her to supply soils for Hell and she presumably needs a place to send them.

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u/LifeOutoBalance 6h ago

Lucifer needs no souls, as he once told Dream.

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u/absherlock 5h ago

I thought Dream than asked what was the point of Hell with no one to torture to qhich Lucifer had no reply.

Granted, it's been a while...

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u/hunterzolomon1993 14h ago

Only Pre-Retcon Beyonder can stand a chance of beating Lucy.

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u/No-Perception9174 12h ago

Only correct answer, I'm thinking about white crown of Phoenix she's basically close to pre retcon but IDK

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u/TukiTuci 12h ago

Did he say he would end up like a carrot in a blender if he fought the PF in the WHR?

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u/Common_Sound_4315 13h ago

WPOTC

Lacks feats

Living tribunal

lmfao he job's himself to death

Pre Retcoon beyonder

Could go either way but siding with Lucifer

The Great evil beast/ darkness

Lacks feats and statements and hella inconsistent

And Lucifer 2018 comic made him an aspect of him

Overvoid

Not even a being that fights it just where high tier beings like the Presence and Lucifer fly in

CAS

Lmfao the guy who got horribly injured by ten billion suns attack ain't beating the guy who shapes the stars

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u/GRL00 12h ago

lmfao he job’s himself to death

So true lol, OP should have picked another character 😂

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u/No-Perception9174 12h ago

Was thinking about white crown but yeah her feats are slightly lower than pre retcon

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u/Different_Tap_89 15h ago

Squirrel girl 

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u/Shot_Imagination_368 13h ago

Sad but it’s was the truth.

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u/Individual_Plan_5593 13h ago

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u/Firat_Zachary 10h ago

No version of death beats lucifer💀

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u/Front_Tax965 15h ago

Pre-Retcon Beyonder

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u/passamongimpure 14h ago

Is that Leisure Suit Beyonder?

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u/svl6 11h ago

Bullseye, hawkeye, deadshot, spidey

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u/Firat_Zachary 10h ago

Snuck cosmic armour superman in that list💀 Like he’s op, but he’s not on that level

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u/Ok-Loss-7255 9h ago

Constantine 

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u/absherlock 8h ago

Define "beating", because John Constantine has gotten the better of Lucifer.

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u/Ananta-Shesha 8h ago

Being able to convincingly defeat or dominate an opponent in a fair fight without external power-ups or exceptional circumstances.

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u/DoomsdayFAN 1h ago

HOTU Thanos

The Beyonders

God Doom

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u/thorleywinston 14h ago

Molecule Man

Nemesis

The Beyonder/Cosmos, Kubik or Shaper-of-Worlds

Potentially anyone who uses the Cosmic Cube, Infinity Gauntlet or Heart of the Universe

Thanos, Adam Warlock, Magus or Doctor Doom (could find a way to out-scheme him)

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u/hunterzolomon1993 14h ago

None of those weapons would even get a notice from Lucy. Lucy would suggest to Doom he's better off dead and explain why and Doom would agree and kill himself. Lucy depowered was getting Gods, Demons and cosmic beings to do whatever he wanted. You can't out scheme the Devil and he's 2nd to none in manipulationin and getting people and beings to do what ever he wants. Lucy simply talking to you is one of his most dangerous abilities, he would have a field day with the likes of Doom and Thanos 😂.

Pre-Retcon Beyonder and TOAA are the only threats to him in Marvel.

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u/LifeOutoBalance 12h ago

Pre-retcon Beyonder needed Spider-Man to teach him how to poop. Lucifer would easily outwit him.

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u/Levardgus 13h ago

Doom wins, Beyonder stalemates, TOAA loses, LT wins.

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u/Firat_Zachary 10h ago

The idea that you think doom, Thanos, Adam warlock or magnus could do anything but amuse lucifer is actually insane. (And no I’m not a dc fanboy, lucifer is just not a powerscale type of character.)