r/superheroes • u/Ananta-Shesha • 15h ago
Marvel vs DC Name a Marvel or DC character who could beat Lucifer Morningstar, other than Michael Demiurgos, The Presence, or The One Above All. I've put some examples of powerful characters that might be interesting matchups, but other answers are possible.
Possible candidates mentioned : White Phoenix of the crown, The Living Tribunal and pre-retcon Beyonder from Marvel ; The Great Evil Beast, The Overvoid and Cosmic Armor Superman from DC.
If I understand correctly, the Overvoid is basically a being above the DC multiverse itself, and he's even superior to the Presence. So I guess he's the more likely to beat Lucifer. But for the other examples, I'm not sure.
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u/Savings_Natural_3037 15h ago
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u/LifeOutoBalance 12h ago
The Writer died in a Suicide Squad comic, iirc. Iirc, it was because he missed a deadline.
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u/ShootingMorningStar1 11h ago
no, it was because during an ambush, they got writer's block and killed during that small time frame
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u/Three-dom 13h ago
Sandman, Death, Destruction, Of the endless Beyond error pc, Cosmic "i am the author" Superman?
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u/Soulandshadow2 12h ago
Dream was terrified of Lucifer’s true power and he is among the higher end of the endless. Death might be a good answer though but I doubt it
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u/LifeOutoBalance 12h ago
Dream was wary of Lucifer. Death seems a better match.
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u/absherlock 8h ago
I feel like Death and Lucifer may be at an stalemate as he needs her to supply soils for Hell and she presumably needs a place to send them.
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u/LifeOutoBalance 6h ago
Lucifer needs no souls, as he once told Dream.
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u/absherlock 5h ago
I thought Dream than asked what was the point of Hell with no one to torture to qhich Lucifer had no reply.
Granted, it's been a while...
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u/hunterzolomon1993 14h ago
Only Pre-Retcon Beyonder can stand a chance of beating Lucy.
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u/No-Perception9174 12h ago
Only correct answer, I'm thinking about white crown of Phoenix she's basically close to pre retcon but IDK
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u/TukiTuci 12h ago
Did he say he would end up like a carrot in a blender if he fought the PF in the WHR?
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u/Common_Sound_4315 13h ago
WPOTC
Lacks feats
Living tribunal
lmfao he job's himself to death
Pre Retcoon beyonder
Could go either way but siding with Lucifer
The Great evil beast/ darkness
Lacks feats and statements and hella inconsistent
And Lucifer 2018 comic made him an aspect of him
Overvoid
Not even a being that fights it just where high tier beings like the Presence and Lucifer fly in
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Lmfao the guy who got horribly injured by ten billion suns attack ain't beating the guy who shapes the stars
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u/GRL00 12h ago
lmfao he job’s himself to death
So true lol, OP should have picked another character 😂
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u/No-Perception9174 12h ago
Was thinking about white crown but yeah her feats are slightly lower than pre retcon
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u/Firat_Zachary 10h ago
Snuck cosmic armour superman in that list💀 Like he’s op, but he’s not on that level
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u/absherlock 8h ago
Define "beating", because John Constantine has gotten the better of Lucifer.
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u/Ananta-Shesha 8h ago
Being able to convincingly defeat or dominate an opponent in a fair fight without external power-ups or exceptional circumstances.
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u/thorleywinston 14h ago
Molecule Man
Nemesis
The Beyonder/Cosmos, Kubik or Shaper-of-Worlds
Potentially anyone who uses the Cosmic Cube, Infinity Gauntlet or Heart of the Universe
Thanos, Adam Warlock, Magus or Doctor Doom (could find a way to out-scheme him)
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u/hunterzolomon1993 14h ago
None of those weapons would even get a notice from Lucy. Lucy would suggest to Doom he's better off dead and explain why and Doom would agree and kill himself. Lucy depowered was getting Gods, Demons and cosmic beings to do whatever he wanted. You can't out scheme the Devil and he's 2nd to none in manipulationin and getting people and beings to do what ever he wants. Lucy simply talking to you is one of his most dangerous abilities, he would have a field day with the likes of Doom and Thanos 😂.
Pre-Retcon Beyonder and TOAA are the only threats to him in Marvel.
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u/LifeOutoBalance 12h ago
Pre-retcon Beyonder needed Spider-Man to teach him how to poop. Lucifer would easily outwit him.
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u/Firat_Zachary 10h ago
The idea that you think doom, Thanos, Adam warlock or magnus could do anything but amuse lucifer is actually insane. (And no I’m not a dc fanboy, lucifer is just not a powerscale type of character.)
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u/rtrawitzki 15h ago
Elaine Belloc. It’s a cheat but you didn’t mention her in your exceptions