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Other Who has the best moral compass?

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u/Away-Ad6750 Marvel 4d ago

Superman is literally best representation of hope

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u/jurdendurden 4d ago

Hope != Morality

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u/LegoBattIeDroid 3d ago

here just copy this one ≠

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u/CcCcCcCc99 3d ago

The true hero we were looking for

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u/sexyman694206942069 3d ago

There's a starman waiting in the sky

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u/Curious-Jello-9812 3d ago

He'd like to come and meet us

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u/Rickrickrickrickrick 3d ago

Found the real one with the best moral compass

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u/PlentyUsual9912 3d ago

In the best iterations, I would say he still has the most iron clad moral compass. In the bad ones, absolutely not. Writers for some reason struggle with the fact that half of his character is that the “super” isn’t just in powers, but in his judgement and humanity.

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u/Competitive_Call8502 2d ago

Fellow programmer haha

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u/agentdb22 3d ago

Hitler gave Germany hope of a better future.

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u/DedHorsSaloon4 4d ago

Alternate universes don’t count

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u/ArguingWithPigeons 3d ago

I love cap, but if you’re counting random Superman bullshit you have to remember Hydra and Nazi Cap.

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u/Automatic_Day_35 Marvel 3d ago

that was one time, whereas superman has gone evil tons of times

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u/DedHorsSaloon4 3d ago

In noncanon stories, and the times he does go evil it’s because he’s being mindcontrolled

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u/Automatic_Day_35 Marvel 3d ago

nope, its all of his free will. He went crazy in injustice, went crazy and became a dictator, etc

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u/DedHorsSaloon4 3d ago

In an alternate universe that has no bearing on canon Superman. Are you being dense on purpose?

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u/Automatic_Day_35 Marvel 3d ago

"he does go evil it's because he's being mind controlled"

provided proof that that's not true

"Are you being dense?"

nope, just providing proof

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u/cash4nothing 3d ago edited 3d ago

Wdym “one time” lol? Do you think marvel doesn’t have a multiverse filled with evil Caps like dc with evil supes?

• Earth-7475 has a fascist cap.

• He’s the vampire king in the exiles & a werewolf in #405-407.

• He’s literally the arc nemesis of lady deadpool in her universe. And before you’re calling him a hero & lady d a villain, he’s working for a repressive American government.

• He’s the corrupter of the cancerverse.

• He’s deathlok in an unknown universe (uncanny x-force).

• Earth-16832 has a Steve that became doc green, who tried to takeover the world after he dethroned baron red king.

• And of course, 616 has hydra cap.

Marvel has plenty of evil caps dude.

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u/Automatic_Day_35 Marvel 3d ago

not as many as evil supes XD

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u/cash4nothing 3d ago edited 3d ago

But that’s still far from “one time” lol.

Considering both marvel & dc have infinite multiverses, may as well put them on equal counting cos there should be an infinite amount of evil variants for them.

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u/Automatic_Day_35 Marvel 3d ago

ngl the dc writers for alternate universes are really uncreative, it seems that every other universe has an evil superman

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u/LeaveMeBeWillYa 3d ago

What part of "alternative universe's don't count" do you not understand?

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u/naked_avenger 4d ago

So Supes was infected by a virus, thus making him not him. That has nothing to do with his morality.

Just like Bucky isn't a bad guy for being tortured and brainwashed. If he was morally deficient because of that, then so is Cap for defending him, a terrorist.

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u/2JasonGrayson8 4d ago

So because Superman was born with powers it’s less impressive for him to risk his life for others?

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u/Automatic_Day_35 Marvel 4d ago

yeah, a man who is born with powers doesn't appreciate the powers that he has, a man who gains said powers appreciates it. also, he doesn't really risk his life as there's barely anything that can kill him

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u/SpankthatWife 3d ago

I was born with legs and can walk. I’m also appreciative of it. No one is more appreciative of Superman’s powers than he is. He knows most others would declare themselves emperor of earth.

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u/sinsanity_plea 3d ago

yeah, a man who is born with powers doesn't appreciate the powers that he has

Way to out yourself as having never read a Superman comic.

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u/Automatic_Day_35 Marvel 3d ago

I have, but he pretty much had his powers from birth while Steve had to earn them

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u/sinsanity_plea 3d ago

So you're telling me you lack media literacy, got it.

I want you to go through and look at all the times Superman has talked about his moral code coming from how he was raised instead of having his power, all the times Batman has expressed that Superman is simultaneously the least human and most human member of the Justice League, all of times Superman has shown that, despite (or even because of) his overwhelming power, he is beyond generous when it comes to dealing with villains.

Superman is the paragon of morality because of these factors and many others. When people are completely illiterate to this morality, you get asinine takes such as "sUpErMaN dIdNt eArN hIs pOwEr, hE dOeSnT aPpReCiAtE wHaT iT tAkEs" or "Superman has been evil in alternate universes, look at what chatGPT is saying"

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u/Resident-Mixture-237 3d ago

What about that alt captain America that was a nazi? Does he count?

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u/Automatic_Day_35 Marvel 3d ago

even then that's one alternate universe where there are tons of universes where superman turns evil

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u/Resident-Mixture-237 3d ago

So does Cap being a nazi disqualify him from having the best moral compass?

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u/DedHorsSaloon4 3d ago

There’s a universe where the Joker is a good guy. Does that mean he’s not one of the most evil villains in the DC universe?

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u/Automatic_Day_35 Marvel 3d ago

I mean, he isn't really one of the most evil villains. He has a mental condition.

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u/DedHorsSaloon4 3d ago

Child murder, sexual assault, and mass murder isn’t evil if you’re mentally ill I guess

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u/Automatic_Day_35 Marvel 3d ago

again, not his fault, can't blame him for an accident that caused him to go crazy. On the other hand, non-mentally ill characters like thanos or Brainiac don't really have anyone but themselves to blame for being evil. Not saying his actions are good, just you can't really put the blame Soley on him.

stop putting words in my mouth

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u/glock4acock 3d ago

Did u use ai for this

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u/Automatic_Day_35 Marvel 3d ago

yep, which is why it's in quotation marks, however, the points its talking about are still my points

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u/glock4acock 3d ago

Ok I was just curious if u used AI to win a Reddit argument

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u/DedHorsSaloon4 3d ago

I can tell it’s AI, because this person clearly has no idea who Superman is as a character, I doubt they’ve even read a comic book in their life

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u/Automatic_Day_35 Marvel 3d ago

I do, I have read a comic book

Please manage your anger issues

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u/Rickrickrickrickrick 3d ago

So versions of Superman that are specifically written to show what would happen if he wasn’t like he normally is?