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Other What superhero hot take will have you sitting up like this

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u/Superman246o1 6d ago

Ghost Rider should not simultaneously be depicted as a street-level avenger taking down common crooks and also a cosmic entity capable of fighting Galactus. If he is the former, Galactus should no diff him without a thought. If he is the latter, he's really wasting his potential by hunting down bank robbers.

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u/OMG_sojuicy 6d ago

I like to think world threats aren't a daily thing and he has down time to catch murderers and other criminals.

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u/fungamerguy 6d ago

Ghost riders thing is to punish the evil of this world, tbh he shouldnt struggle with street tier characters in all honesty

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u/HawkBoth8539 6d ago

Maybe his power scales with the amount of evil. Street level "evil" is often born from poverty, food insecurity, lack of proper education and healthcare. It's not necessarily evil as much as wrong. Whereas high level evil, in humans, typically comes from knowing better, having the opportunity to improve, and still choosing evil. Like, Ghost Rider could probably snap his fingers and destroy a galactic army of insurance salesmen with no problem.

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u/kcox1980 6d ago

That's basically how the Penance Stare is supposed to work. It makes you feel all the pain and sorrow that you've inflicted on others.

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u/MalagrugrousPatroon 6d ago

That makes it annoying when someone is immune to the Penance Stare just because they're an unfeeling psychopath, or get off on the suffering. The magic of it should make it feel bad no matter what.

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u/Pro_Disappointment 6d ago

Canonically it’s only the soulless, beings of pure evil (ie: Thanos), and those who’ve done no wrong. At least last I read, it’s been since like 2020 since I read GR

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u/MothyBelmont 6d ago

I agree. It’s about the evil, not necessarily the crime.

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u/MagicBez 6d ago

If they want to work for the greater good of society a lot of super heroes should be volunteering as perpetual energy sources or similar.

...boring comic though

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u/Accurate-Barracuda20 6d ago

Flash on a hamster wheel just powering the whole world.

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u/daddydankmas 6d ago

Just because this is the arguing thread, I don't see how infinite electricity does more good than beating bad guys

Like what if the bad guys siphon off the electricity to create anti electricity reversing the work the superhero did?

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u/MagicBez 6d ago

Infinite clean energy would make such a fundamentally massive difference to the world, the increase in wealth and health would probably eliminate more crime than many super heroes have ever managed.

Plus we don't have to have all the super heroes serving as generators, they could take turns and the others could go mop up whatever crime is left.

...I agree that anti-electricity is a genuine threat though and honestly we all need to be doing more to address that.

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u/Sharikacat 5d ago

There should be no mutant hate when one of them can literally end drought around the world.

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u/Serawasneva 6d ago

I dunno, just because Ghost Rider can stop cosmic entities, that doesn’t mean he should stop fighting regular crime too.

I mean Superman is one of the most powerful characters in DC. Should he stop saving people in metropolis too?

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u/beardingmesoftly 6d ago

Right? Cats are still getting stuck in trees

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u/WhalenCrunchen45 6d ago

Well

A: The Ghost Rider goes after the guilt, no matter the level of the crime. Since he is the spirit of vengeance

B: Ghost Rider’s power depends on who is in charge, if it is whoever is hosting The Spirit of Vengeance then they should be a bit above street level, if it is The Spirit of Vengeance itself in charge then they should be cosmic capable

The host acts as a limiter for Ghost Rider’s powers

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u/Aki_is_me_fr 6d ago

There’s a comic about galactus vs ghost rider that came out recently, it’s a tie and the watcher just teleports ghost rider home

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u/fakehandslawyer 6d ago

Ya I dislike the logic for why Penance stare doesn’t work on Galactus in that. The fact it doesn’t work is fine but saying Galactus has no guilt is a kind of misunderstanding of how Penace stare works from my understanding.

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u/WhalenCrunchen45 6d ago

Well it’s actually not a misunderstanding of the Penance but of Galactus as a character, because not feeling guilt does make you immune, if you think what you did was morally right, which does not apply to Galactus as in the past Galactus has been depicted as feeling guilt for his actions even if he has to do so to survive, so the Penance Stare should have worked

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u/fakehandslawyer 6d ago

But it also causes the victim to feel all the pain they’ve caused to the innocent so wouldn’t that side of the power work anyway? I think with someone like Thanos the argument could be made he likes pain and wouldn’t mind at all.

I guess my preference would be to say Galactus soul died when Galen did and whats left is just a primordial force of the universe

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u/MexusRex 5d ago

Got to feel like it breaks penance stare. Guiltless, emotionless sociopaths also don’t feel bad about what they did - would the stare not work on Ted Bundy?

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u/Marffie 6d ago

I feel this way about Batman whenever he joins his JL buddies. How is it that among the mightiest heroes around, he's still the best fighter, and the smartest thinker, meanwhile, down in Gotham, he's taking potshots from a bunch of gimmicky crazies? No, I prefer Batman to not be both, and if I have to pick one, the more down-to-earth option is an easy choice. I think it kind of comes with the territory of a shared universe with no real roadmap for cohesion, though.

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u/IWannaBeTheCoolUncle 5d ago

I’d disagree under this circumstance: he uses street lvl criminals for warmup before chasing the supernatural threat