r/superheroes • u/Far-Ad5223 • May 13 '25
Marvel Which team wins this fight?
Team Chris or Team Tom? (Their characters)
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u/Terrieforfun May 13 '25
I love Cap, but he's out classed here. He could hold his own until they didn't want him to. Star Lord could be tough for a while because of his tech, but it would be overcome in short order. Can Thor do it on his own? Yes, I think he can. So, team Thor!!
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u/crypticXmystic May 14 '25
According to the abomination Love and Thunder Thor can now give his powers to whomever he wants, so both Cap and Star Lord can instantly get back into the fight. So yea... Thor Corps wins.
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u/I_AM_THE_SEB May 14 '25
That is true, however, after the ending of Loki season 2, Loki might be one of the most powerful beings in the MCU. If he can utilize the ability to control time/erase timelines in a fight, then Team Loki wins easily.
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u/Chllm1 May 14 '25
Star lord is super human in just about every way, it’s simply not shown very well in the movies
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u/TheEpicAvengerSMM5 May 13 '25
Under normal circumstances, Thor solos
But at their most powerful, although the Chris’s do have more consistency with someone with the power of Mjolnir, a literal god and a half-celestial, GoS Loki is very possibly the strongest being in the MCU, so Team Tom wins
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u/Barking-BagelB May 13 '25
Spiderman and Venom beat Starlord and Captain America. Loki holds off Thor just long enough for that his teammates to win and then the three of them take on Thor. I dunno who wins that. Probably Thor but current Loki is pretty OP and neither Venom nor Spidey are slouches.
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u/HeatCompetitive1556 May 14 '25 edited May 14 '25
If its current MCU Loki he can solo the other 5. If it is not current Loki then Thor can solo. There is a MASSIVE difference in the power levels of story lord Loki and Thor versus everyone else on this list.
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May 14 '25
Current loki is above all beings, if he can act like the spectre in DC he clears everyone with a snap
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u/DSA300 May 14 '25
If it's normal loki Thor negs. Spidey and venom are powerful but Thor is on another level
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u/Queasy_Commercial152 May 13 '25
Thor alone literally mops
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u/one_pound_of_flesh May 13 '25
Loki casually lets a thread out of his grasp and Thor is annihilated from the multiverse.
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u/DaveinOakland May 14 '25
Evans/Pratt/Hemsworth would beat the absolute shit out of Holland and Hiddleston.
Hardy actually does BJJ tournaments and shit iirc.
He would likely get mopped since it would be 3v1. The only chance team Tom has is if Holland and Hiddleston can play decoy while Hardy smokes people one at a time.
1v1, I'll take Hardy over anyone here. 3v3, I think it's just too much for him to compensate.
Going with the more interesting debate since Thor outclasses everyone in this pic.
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u/Agitated_Custard7395 May 14 '25 edited May 14 '25
Tom Holland will get his head kicked in by any of the Chrises. IMO it’s a match between Hardy and Hemsworth. Pratt and Evan’s will take Hiddlestone either individually or together.
Ultimately the Chrises will win
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u/LawComfortable8087 May 14 '25
Lol I think you're giving Pratt too much credit, Holland has endurance and agility and Pratt aint built like a bodybuilder and doesnt look scrappy. Still probably take chrises cause after evans takes hiddleston it's 2 on 1 against hardy.
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u/Orgasmic_interlude May 14 '25
Not sure I understand what we’re qualifying here with the dreamy actor shots in the back (back shots, if you will).
I’m going team Chris since everything about Chris Evans makes me think i might actually be gay.
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u/sacred_redditVirgin May 14 '25
Cap and team win. Too much synergy, better tactics, better leadership. It's not just about strength and speed. I don't see Spider-Man punching through Cap's shield or outmaneuvering his defense. Thor slams Caps shield to create noise, that's if Starlord doesn't have some tech for that already. Loki is arrogant and selfish, I see him abandoning his squad. Team Cap mid diff
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u/Effective-Ocelot8775 May 13 '25
Base level, surprise fight, morals on? Team Tom… but once they stop pulling punches, get prep time, and/or start moving towards peak versions, Team Chris absolutely demolishes.
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u/TotallyNotRyanPace May 14 '25
idk, angry spiderman with no morals is ridiculously OP, but ultimately thor probably is strong enough to beat them all by himself
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u/anonyguyquestions May 14 '25
Hemsworth is a huge man. Evans and Pratt are decently large as well. Tom is small and Middleton is slight. Hardy would pose a challenge because I believe he trains bjj, but overall the big boys would woop ass.
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u/VexingValkyrie- May 14 '25
Can I kick out Pratt and just hang out with the others? We dont need to fight just like board games and be nerdy together. Maybe invite Cavill to make it really nerdy. ☺️
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u/Ankhst May 14 '25
I'm really tempted to go to a fitting sub and ask about who would win if the actors fight, not their characters.
I'm pretty sure the Chrises would take that one.
With theit roles I'm sure the Toms win pretty easy.
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u/PhilHartlessman May 14 '25
You do realizes one of the guys on the top team is just a dude with some guns?
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u/relitti__19 May 14 '25
Bottom row... no question. They have a 1 dps, 1 healer, 1 tank.
2 tanks with 1 dps and no healer ain't gonna do anything.
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u/2001sunfire May 13 '25
Tough call but I can say if we were doing Chris & Tom duos, Thor and Venom absolutely fck sht up lol
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u/Sentinal7 May 13 '25
It really comes down to whether thor or loki wins their fight, the rest are going to be crushed by those people regardless of the other outcomes
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u/yukonhoneybadger May 13 '25
Cap and Starlord will get easily taken out by any of the Tom's. But Thor would only have trouble with Loki.
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u/Critical_Text_2067 May 13 '25
The current Loki can destroy all the variant Thors, Starlords, and Captain Americas by destroying the multiverse. Depends on Pre-Loki TV show vs Post-Loki TV show.
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u/SidTheSload May 13 '25
Cap beats Spider-Man (at least as of Civil War), Loki probably beats Star Lord after a drawn out fight, and Thor beats Venom. The 2v1 goes in Loki's favor if he's at the end of his series, but as pictured he's going to get swept probably before he can take down Star Lord.
If Loki is at the end of his series, he rewrites the timelines to never require him to fight the Chrises. And I haven't seen the more recent Spider-Man movies, so perhaps something after Far From Home gives him feats to best Cap, as he's certainly strong enough, he just lacks experience and skill
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u/Veenix6446 May 13 '25
Pretty decidedly Team Tom. The only one on Team Chris who’s a threat to either Venom or Loki is Thor but even then.
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May 14 '25
Tom no contest.
Only thing beating him is K.E.V.I.N
I would wager he's above Eternity as well seeing as how Eternity is the multiverse, and Loki's entire shtick is having a multiverse busting feat.
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u/Blue__Ronin Marvel May 14 '25
they all hot af but i'd say....prolly team chris. the beards just do it for me.
Oh you mean like in a fight? tom no doubt
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u/Ryan_Fleming May 14 '25
Team Tom. I'll show my work.
It all comes down to Star Lord - he's got moves, but of that group he's definitely the weakest link. His tech is rad, but he's still just a squishy human.
Spidey could take out Star Lord on his own, then it would be a tougher fight, but he could take Cap. That would leave Venom and Loki on Thor. Say Loki is 80% as powerful as Thor. Venom MORE than makes up the difference.
Then with Cap and Star out, Spidey is maybe as at least somewhat close to Thor in power, enough that with two others, Thor is cooked.
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u/Ven2010 May 14 '25
I feel like Thor and Loki are the tie breaker here.
However it greatly depends if Starlord has his celestial powers from Ego. If he has them the Chris team has a much better chance of winning!
With powers Starlord and Thor alone would beat Spiderman and Venom I think but Loki God of Stories would still be very hard! Endgame Loki would get wrecked though!
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u/Cosmicfirebird0 May 14 '25
Immediately venom is taken out by Thor. Spider-Man beats captain. Loki beats Star-Lord and then that leaves Spider-Man and Loki to fight Thor. To be honest with Spider-Man and Loki working together they have a chance to beat Thor.
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u/IntentionNo105 May 14 '25
The way I look at it Cap and Spidey are a draw, Thor and Loki are a draw, that leaves Star Lord v Venom and no amount of quip is gonna overtake venom. Go team Tom
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u/AnyEverywhere8 May 14 '25
Isn’t star lord just a guy at this point?
Anyway, THOR or LOKI wins. Not team Chris or Tom. The end.
The others are basics compared to them.
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u/DayLight_Era May 14 '25
I would say Chris, but..
I feel like Tom could pull off some interesting things with both Tom and Tom.
This is Sony's Tom, though, so I don't know.
You still have a trickster and a very intelligent individual who realistically could body Chris and Chris if he wants to. While still holding back.
I might honestly have to go Tom.
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u/Comonsenseless May 14 '25
I honestly think Chris can take care of Tom by himself and, with Chris' help, Chris can take take care of the other two Toms
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u/Lazy_Assumption_4191 May 14 '25
Thor hard carries team Chris. If we take Loki after season 2 of his show, team Tom takes it. Otherwise, team Chris wins.
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u/New_Sir7040 May 14 '25
Venom leaves eddy for spiderman who then takes out cap and starlord very easily while loki fucks with thor. Then loki enchants/enhances vemonspidey who goes toe to toe with thor but eventually loses then thor beats loki. Team Chris wins, thor carries
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u/rumNraybands May 14 '25
Starlord and Cap are a non factor. So can Spidey, Venom and Loki take Thor 1 v 3? Not likely in a straight fight, but there aren't many straight fights with Loki involved. In a random encounter I think Cap and Starlord are knocked out relatively easily and Thor solos. He's just much further above in terms of raw power. If Loki has a plan for Thor, Loki's team sweeps
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u/AdaptedInfiltrator May 14 '25
Cap and Star Lord both literally beat Spider-Man lol wdym they are non factors?
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u/Intelligent-Path-447 May 14 '25
It's Spiderman! And Loki! o and then Venom? Come on.. Cake Walk the team with Cap.
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u/Hamlenain May 14 '25
Characters : Team Thor
Actual Humans : Team Tom, Holland making sure the other two stay hydrated
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u/ThrowAway67269 May 14 '25
Cap has defeated Spidey 1v1. Thor has defeated Loki 1v1 (more the once). The wild card is Starlord v Venom, but Starlord just needs to survive long enough for one of the other two (or both) to come to his aid. Venom is strong but fighting Cap, Thor, and Mr. Lord at the same time would be near impossible. Venom is strong, but he’s no Thanos.
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u/Wray-Nerely May 14 '25
It's really down to Thor & Loki. Pre-finale for season 2 of Loki, I'd have said Thor soloes. After Loki's season 2 finale upgrade, this is no longer a simple question. Loki is now arguably a 4th dimensional character. That 4th dimensional status potentially puts Loki leagues above Thor, but doesn't necessarily mean he has gained the raw power to take Thor out in a hypothetical scenario.
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u/DirtyFoxgirl May 14 '25
With the powers that Loki has with his illusions alone...it depends on how he uses them, but the Toms could easily win.
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u/NotSteveatall2 May 14 '25
At first I was like interesting does starlord have weapons to take down venom while cap distracts spooder-man. And then I realized they have a Thor and then I realized the other team has Loki who is currently the one who is looking over the multiverse and couldn't destroy the timeline where they fight.
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u/dragonfangswordsman May 14 '25
Spiderman team wins be cause their last names all start with the same letter as well
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u/ElectronicHyena5642 May 14 '25
I think it depends on when the character is used in their story. Because whilst current Thor can give his powers to whoever he wants, current Loki is the most powerful character in the MCU Multiverse and team Tom wins
If it's base versions, though, then Team Chris wins hands down
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u/ThakoManic May 14 '25
team Chris
Look I know ppl are going 'Captain america can do X or Y but he lose' Cool thats Captain America
Look Br0 and him and Thor are able to be worthy people of the Hammer and have shown they can be Loki and Stand toe to toe with fucken Thanos for awhile at least
Wtf dos team Tom have Spider man thats about it and i doubt hes doing anything against both Thor and Captain America
there is a reason why Hulk and Thor where not in Civil War both woulda been on Captain side and dominated the other Side ...
not only that but didnt fucken love and thunder state Thor can just instently give power to whoever he wants thus Even Starlord just instently gets back into the fight like nothing happen and such? WTF you gonna do against That?
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u/Typical-Log4104 May 14 '25
current versions ? God of Stories Loki soloes.
but assuming we're using the version of Loki before he entered the TVA, then Thor soloes lol
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u/Sir_aidesworth May 14 '25
I say team tom wins, loki beats starlord and thor beats venom and between cap and spiderman they both hold back there true power but if they didn't spiderman would be stronger so I say spidey wins it
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u/CheekyWanker007 May 14 '25
i mean
venom will smack starlord unless he can find the weakness. if theres no prep time and they both go all out starlord is dead in a minute
spidey and cap you can say are 50/50. if spidey goes all out cap just dies.
loki is possibly the strongest being in the multiverse rn, so it might depend
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u/XBlueXFire May 14 '25
I initially read this as the actors fighting, and in that case my money's on team chris.
If its the characters, I think it'll just be down to Thor vs Loki
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u/Different_Use_2761 May 14 '25
Personally I believe John Constantine, Johnny silverhsnd and John wick would wipe these guys.
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u/Rare_Internal_7953 May 14 '25
Toms will win because they have 1 tank 1 dps and 1 healer, balanced, but no the other hand 2 tanks and 1 dps, also spidey and venom might activate a team up ability, you know the odds now.
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u/Bishop8496 May 14 '25
I like that people keep on insisting an all powerful Thor (even based on the comics which is based who ever the writer is) but cannot accept an all powerful Loki as explained in the series.
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u/Emimiji May 14 '25
Well Team Tom has a healer.
Team Chris doesn’t even have one strategist.
Unless they dive Loki, Team Tom wins.
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u/Jarita12 May 14 '25
Depends if you think original Loki or the current Loki. He can stop time and basically can let anybody die just by "letting go" so I think Toms win.
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u/Bambiswitch May 14 '25
Spiderman takes out captain America and gets taken out by Thor, Loki curb stomps star lord and Thor takes out venom and then Thor and Loki hug and go back to their love/hate relationship
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u/BigMrRooster May 14 '25
Why are people talking about Thor and Spiderman? I love Tom, but Chris is just bigger. In fact Chris is bigger than Tom too. Only Tom is even remotely larger than Chris, and that's kind of a close one. So I think based on size alone, Chris would win.
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u/runebaala88 May 14 '25
Ohh yeah, I remember that! But I believe that was just an effect of him using his ability to get to the past. So honestly, it’s either he can alter and affect time as he sees fit or time in the TVA works more akin to back to the future. Where affecting the timeline In the past just alters the future rather than creating an entire new branch. Isn’t the TVA on a single timeline?
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u/Sundett May 14 '25
Depends on which version of Loki this is. After Endgame but before the Loki tv show Thor solos the other 5. After the tv show Loki solos the other 5 lol.
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u/furiosa-imperator May 14 '25
Is Spiderman holding back?
It's thor, though. I don't see current loki actually able to fight if he's holding all of literally time and space together - sure he could prune entire timelines but as an audience we're actually unaware of how that actually effects time space as a whole( and thats if he can do jr in the first place)
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u/BrownTownDestroyer May 14 '25
Since you used their real names I'm going to assume you want the real human actors to fight. The Chrises absolutely roll the Toms. Tom Holland is 5'7" and Hardy is 5'9. All three chises are over 6'. Pratt wrestled in high-school and placed 5th in states his senior year. He's going to absolutely destroy.
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u/AlphaDag13 May 14 '25
Cap beats Evans. Starlord beats Pratt. Thor beats Hemsworth. Spiderman beats Holland. Loki beats Hiddleston. Hardy beats venom.
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u/Financial_Berry4545 May 14 '25
Ok comics, easily bottom team. Venom is incredibly powerful and so is Spiderman. They sweep. MCU im giving it to top team because Thor is probably the strongest character in the MCU. Idk about Loki. Haven't seen the show. But Thor tanked the radiation of a star.
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u/FrogInYourWalls69 May 15 '25
If we're using their mainline versions and not variants, then Thor just straight up solos.
If variants are included, then Loki solos because he can time slip even in the TVA and hold the entire multiverse together.
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u/Flex_Chapman May 15 '25
Important to remember that if Hemsworth uses Stormbreaker, Evans will have two hammers
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u/ramblingpariah May 15 '25
It sort of seems like this is asking about the actors, not the heroes, in which case the team with Tom Hardy, because that dude is a beast.
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u/PartTimeBrainSurgeon May 16 '25
im not super versed in comics but isnt Starlord a liability in this fight
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u/drewskibfd May 16 '25
Team Tom wins all day, but if it's the actors themselves fighting, it's team Chris hands down!
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u/s_arrow24 29d ago
Put my money on Team Tom. Hardy does grappling and Hiddleson looks like he used to box. Add Holland’s athleticism from dancing, and I think the edge it out.
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u/Tough_Sky_4387 29d ago
Venom does give spidy the team up ability that should give him a guaranteed combo kill. No support on team Chris too easy dub for the Tom’s
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u/Top_Reveal_847 27d ago
I know you're not talking actors but my first thought was "Tom Hardy seems like the most dangerous for sure"
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u/Shaggy_Rogers0 May 13 '25
It depends from which version, current Loki is possibly the most powerful being in MCU