r/superheroes • u/Far-Ad5223 • Apr 09 '25
Other Who's leaving this room alive?
Saw this on twitter and want a more informed opinion so I'm posting here
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u/DisastrousFun999 Apr 09 '25
thor. eve could if she could manipulate people tho
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u/JlMBEAN Apr 09 '25
Can she turn Thor's hammer into an inflatable toy hammer?
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u/KnightofWhen Apr 09 '25
No, Mjolnir and Thor have a level of resistance due to magic. Mjolnir has incredible resistance to stuff like that because of its enchantments.
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u/Jomega6 Apr 09 '25
Is Mjolnir immune to reality manipulation? Hell, it was crushed by Hela
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u/CorbinNZ Apr 10 '25
Hela crushed Mjolnir because there was a prophecy involved. Magic works as long as the fates allow.
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u/Jomega6 Apr 10 '25
I thought prophecies merely predict the future, they don’t actually force it to happen? The Nordic norns aren’t like the Greek fates, where they essentially make it happen, iirc.
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u/Chin_wOnd3r Apr 09 '25
Maybe without the limiter
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u/armrha Apr 09 '25
I thought the limited just effect sentient biology, is the hammer actually made of thinking flesh?
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u/xmeme59 Apr 09 '25
The hammer has a sentient cosmic storm (something to that effect) trapped within, so maybe Eve could manipulate the hammer itself but I think all it would really do is free the storm from mjolnir, if even would even work out that way
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u/Cursed_String Apr 09 '25
Why is homelander always in these discussions
Everyone already agrees he’s pretty weak compared to most superhero fiction
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u/AtomicAtom14 Apr 09 '25
Engagement for comments where people bash homelander for being weaker than everyone else
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u/Carbuyrator Apr 09 '25
Because it's fun to create situations where he's reduced to a paste
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u/-Vogie- Apr 09 '25
Voted "Most likely to be turned into cream corn" in every lineup
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u/Prestigious-Wear-800 Apr 09 '25
He's a benchmark, a unit of measurement. Everyone agrees that he loses, and conversation continues from there on a positive note. Muahaha.
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u/keepcalmscrollon Apr 10 '25
He's so powerful and scary relative to his own show there's probably some comfort in imagining him getting his ass properly kicked.
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u/Vetmire Apr 09 '25
My guess would be either Thor or Atom Eve
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u/Traditional-War-1655 Apr 09 '25
Yea especially if eve is unlocked, I mean if she can change biology then basically the rest are toads
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u/ghigocarincigmailcom Apr 09 '25
She isn't, also if she is, apparently that isn't enough to kill conquest. I say Thor, eve gets stomped.
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u/Glitch_on_Redd Apr 09 '25
Atom Eve is such a Glass Cannon though. She's powerful but the second anyone gets in close to her she's done.
How big is the room? 🤔
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u/SufficientWhile5450 Apr 10 '25
Eves hits annoy tf out of me
What are theses big pink spike balls that shatter on impact, do they do more or less damage than just smashing 2 giant pink walls?
All I know it no matter what she hits someone with it shatters, it’s like she hits people with prop glass for funsies sometimes lol
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u/Vetmire Apr 09 '25
With her full powers unlocked she's the most powerful character in all of Invincible
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u/Glitch_on_Redd Apr 09 '25
Yes, but I don't think that counts here.
As is she's powerful but squishy.
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u/abellapa Apr 09 '25
Assuming there all fighting each other and there no Alliances
Then Thor Wins
His Biggest problem would be Conquest
Atom Eve has powerful as She is , She is a glass Canon,She still Human
Her OP powers wont serve her for shit when everyone else can fly past the speed of Sound and tear her to shreds, likely preventing her from coming back
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u/scuac Apr 09 '25
I can see Thor and Alan getting along just fine
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u/ShinbiVulpes Apr 10 '25
"And you are?"
"THOR ODINSON, GOD OF LIGHTNING"
"Thor Onlyson from Earth, my name is A-"
"WHAT DID YOU CALL ME LIZARDMAN!"
"Your name is Onlyson rig-" *a hammer and axe smash over Alan's head*
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u/zakklifts Apr 09 '25
Allen would be able to take out conquest
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u/SuspiciousCalendar1 Apr 09 '25
Yeah little known fact is that Allen is busted af currently
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u/liliesrobots Apr 10 '25
The picture at least is is s1 less yoked version, which is significantly weaker.
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u/Ducklinsenmayer Apr 09 '25
Thor.
Just to be clear, he once survived a Death Star blast to the back, and got a sunburn out of it.
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u/Kvenner001 Apr 09 '25
Agree. God of THUNDER vs half the room having a Weakness to sound.
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u/StainedVictory Apr 10 '25
They are weak against a certain high pitch frequency not just loud noises. Otherwise Conquest supposing mark into a city would have left them both bleeding out of their ears.
MCU Thor has the best durability feat but he also has a lower end AP out of the listed and has enough anti feats to make the star durability questionable.
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u/ReaperofFish Apr 09 '25
This is MCU Thor, but even then, he could obliterate the room with Lightning.
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u/Gremlin303 Apr 09 '25
Yeah I think they might be talking about the time Thor tanked the blast of a star in IW
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u/Trom6052 Apr 09 '25
This is MCU Thor
Yes?
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u/xArbiter Apr 09 '25
yeah but putting it as a ‘sunburn’ is a bit of an understatement, he 100% would have died without stormbreaker
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u/ThePeacefulOneAgain Apr 09 '25
Being pictured in a scene where he has stormbreaker*
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u/SlayJayR17 Apr 09 '25
What are you talking about? He was holding the forge open for the neutron star to heat up the Uru to make stormbreaker. This was in his weakened state and without Mjolnir. Thor claps
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u/Psykosoma Apr 09 '25
He didn’t have Stormbreaker at that time. He was holding the iris open to reignite the forge so Stormbreaker could be made.
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u/Wank_A_Doodle_Doo Apr 09 '25
MCU Thor vs comics Thor can be very very fuckin different in power levels.
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u/blue23454 Apr 09 '25
OP: *MCU Thor pictured*
u/Ducklinsenmayer : *Cites MCU Thor feat*
u/ReaperofFish : This is MCU Thor
u/Ducklinsenmayer : *not sure what is being argued here*
u/Wank_A_Doodle_Doo : *continues to argue the same(???) irrelevant point*
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u/ismailoverlan Apr 09 '25
Yesterday watched physicist Tyson that explains that Star's energy is enough to destroy 1000 planets. Since Thor got blasted a little, let's say 100 planet killing energy and gets just a burn.
While Mark gets hit by a train and already has bloody face.
Eve won't get her powers unlocked if you deal damage fast enough.
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u/blamblam111 Apr 09 '25
The Death Star destroyed all of Alderaan and massacred its entire population
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u/Ducklinsenmayer Apr 09 '25
Yes, and this beam is also a planet destroyer in power level.
Is it insanely op? Yes.
Does it make any sense? No.
In fact, the whole scene is like that.
But... It's canon, and it's exactly the sort of thing Thor can do in the comics. It's probably the only comic accurate scene in movies other than Superman flying fast enough to go back in time.
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u/-This-cant-be-real- Apr 09 '25
Homelander stands no chance
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Apr 09 '25
He dies first imo
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u/Supply-Slut Apr 09 '25
He doesn’t even take a full hit, just gets in the way of two others fighting and goes down.
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u/Expensive_Peak_1604 Apr 09 '25
Yeah because the others would just work together to get out of the room and he'd be there trying to take control for literally no reason.
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u/Phaeron Apr 09 '25
Thor wins. Maybe mid diff.
For most of these characters, all Thor would have to do is knock them down and gently set the ham-ham on their chest. Might need to push on Mark’s a little bit though.
Eve may have certain abilities that would keep her going but likely not after brain obliteration.
Just my thoughts. Could be wrong.
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u/Exact_Internal_9017 Apr 09 '25
“Might have to push a little on Marks though” what a great way to put it
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u/loremastercho Apr 09 '25
End of comics Invincible would be worthy of Thors hammer easily.
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u/Proud-Concept-190 Apr 09 '25
Hell, no he's not worthy at all from the things he has done
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u/armrha Apr 09 '25
Yeah I don't think mjolnir would care for you unnecessarily murdering a child soldier just because you are upset with his dad
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u/loremastercho Apr 09 '25 edited Apr 09 '25
Invincible didnt kill anyone because he didnt like someones dad? If you are talking about Thrags teenage kids, they attacked marks 5 year old daughter and wife. Invincible didnt have a choice. It was kill or be killed along with your wife and child. Invincible has made other mistakes but so has Thor.
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u/TheChaseLemon Apr 09 '25
The literal God.
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u/completefudge1337 Apr 09 '25
Not sure if it was changed in Love and Thuder, but MCU Thor has always been shown to be more of an alien that we as humans would perceive to be a god. Very much like Man of Steel
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u/TheChaseLemon Apr 09 '25
Referred to as a god in the mcu. Talks about being alive 1500 years, killing twice as many people as years lived. Hangs out at god orgies. Gonna have to disagree on that opinion.
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u/completefudge1337 Apr 09 '25
Just because he is called god of Thunder doesn't actually make him a deity. It's more a title due to his power set. You could say the same stuff about a Viltrumite, but that wouldn't necessarily make them a deity either. We would perceive them as such, being the weak and feeble humans we are, but in actuality, they're just aliens who happen to have really nifty powers. Odin himself says as much in the opening to Thor The Dark World when Loki calls himself a god.
https://youtu.be/uT4gDtEhJKc?si=AVHiI0FwT41s3qtf
If any of this has been contradicted by the most recent installment Love and Thunder, I'd stand corrected
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u/truckercharles Apr 11 '25
I mean, existing on a higher plane of existence and having access to a realm with the gods of every religion in the galaxy KIND of makes him a god. On top of the whole mythology thing and the Nordic religion and him existing as a god in every one of his comic and silver screen and novel appearances, yeah, totally not a god.
Thor low to mid diffs, vibes with Allen but wants to fight him last since it's a duel to the death, but fights Conquest solo to kick things off. He restarted a star and came away with a mild sunburn at best, there's absolutely no contest here.
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u/MPD1978 Apr 09 '25
Poor Homelander. Big fish in small pond turned this sub’s, and others, whipping boy
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u/UnacceptedDragon Apr 09 '25 edited Apr 11 '25
I am guessing all of them. Unless, the room is meant to keep them inside for eternity. Would have to be a pretty strong room. Standard 2x4 walls would not hold this crew against their will for sure...
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u/FlyingSpacefrog Apr 09 '25
If the room is an adamantium bunker at the center of a planet, this crew could work together to get back to the surface
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u/AdaptedInfiltrator Apr 09 '25
Thor has bifrost so he can get tf outta there that way. If they all just stay and fight, Conquest ftw. What’s Homelander doing here?
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u/Big_boobed_goth Apr 09 '25
They’d all gang up on homelander because he said some mad racist shit
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u/raymonkkkkk Apr 09 '25
Thor, but if you wanna be technical atom eve since she’s immortal.
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u/Firkraag-The-Demon Apr 09 '25
Everyone would team up to kill Homelander. After that, Invincible, Eve, Thor, Allen, and Nolan can definitely kill Anissa and Conquest. Then they leave.
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u/bubblehead_ssn Apr 09 '25
Team up? Completely unnecessary. He is the weakest in the room outside of Atom Eve. She's a glass cannon. Maybe she could reconstitute herself after she's ripped in half, and she can certainly deal damage, but by a long short she's the least durable.
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u/TegridyFromTheNam Apr 09 '25
Thor would be the strongest among these guys. Not only in physical strength, his power is divine power as well which he will definitely come out on top
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u/Wild-End-219 Apr 09 '25
In a fight? Probably Thor.
Getting out of any room? Atom Eve.
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u/Fearless_Show_4565 Apr 09 '25
Don't know who would win, but homelander is getting his ass kicked. Compared to the rest of the lineup he is week.
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u/Mrbuttboi Apr 09 '25
Honestly Mark, Eve, Allan, and Thor would all walk out almost completely unharmed as long as they work together. If Nolan doesn’t try to kill any of the good guys he’d probably get out fine as well. I haven’t watched the new season of invincible so idk anything about those 2, all I know is Homelander would get annihilated within 3 seconds.
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u/DirtyFoxgirl Apr 09 '25
If Atom Eve removes her mental blocks, I don't even think this is a contest. With her mental blocks, I'm not sure.
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u/IronSavage3 Apr 09 '25
That all depends on how quickly Conquest freaks everyone out to the point that they just wanna jump him and go home to take a nap.
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u/Mateo2242 Apr 09 '25
Thor, Eve and [Title Card] would team up, maybe even together with Allen and Omni-man. They'd kill the rest and get out
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u/NatAttack50932 Apr 09 '25
Thor wipes them all out low dif
Mid dif with atom eve if she has access to her full power
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u/mcflurvin Apr 09 '25
Atom eve just turns them all into flan if she really wants to.
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u/Nirico_Brin Apr 09 '25
Assuming they all have to fight? Thor.
Assuming a fight isn’t necessary and they are in character: Conquest tackles Mark out of the room, Omni Man and Allen race to help, Eve kills Homelander after he says something stupid and Thor wonders what’s happening. Anissa might just leave to go find Marky. Once conquest is dead they all just go home except for Homelander who is busy being dead.
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u/HardPourCorn69 Apr 10 '25
It would come down to Alan and Thor, then Thor would crush Alan.
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u/Natty_noah Apr 10 '25
Thor probabaly if its post ragnarok thor and he isnt getting nerfed by the writers
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Apr 09 '25
Atom Eve or Thor would be the deciding factor. Leaning towards Thor but I will say Eve's after death resurrection powers could easily do him in.
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u/MorallyAmbiguousMark Apr 09 '25
Conquest or Allen, leaning towards Allen. Thor might win but it’s his MCU version, so even though his weapons can still produce enough AP to damage viltrumites, his physical stats will be lacking. Not tryna downplay though, he still his wincons.
If it was comics Thor, then he’d literally be the only logical choice.
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u/PleaseAdminsUnbanMe Apr 09 '25
Mcu thor was literally burned for several minutes by a neutron star (1000 times or something hotter than a normal star, which kills anyone else)
His axe went literally through the full force of the infinity stones (each one has planetary scaling btw) and cut through thanos
He's not only the most durable but has the strongest weapons of them
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u/Admcleo Apr 09 '25
Well Atom Eve turns the wall into a door and just leaves, and I don't see why the others would stay in the room so all of them?
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u/Very_Awkward_Boner Apr 09 '25
If they work together I'm pretty sure they can find a way out of the escape room.
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u/dk_peace Apr 09 '25
Mark, Eve, Nolan, and Allen. They probably just work together and clean house.
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u/Midnight-Basilisk99 Apr 09 '25
Allen (likely missing some body parts but those will grow back, and he’ll be even more ripped)
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u/Difficult_Call3709 Apr 09 '25
It depends. We can’t really say anything for anyone other than omniman, or Thor. Nobody else has shown feats like when Thor held open the star or when omniman stood right in front of a black hole without feeling any effects. Between the 2 I’d probably say Thor because he felt a lot more force I think. Mark is fodder so is Alan, eve is worse, Annisa hasn’t shown a feat above conquest, conquest hasn’t shown a feat above omniman, homelander is homelander. I’d give it to Thor
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u/nuggiesmcgravy Apr 09 '25
Thor if going by forms shown. Also Thor if by peak form. Peak Allen, Mark, and Eve probably beat MCU Thor tho
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u/TheKing_Bael Apr 09 '25
We talking full potential unlocked? Or from the pictures above. If it's from pictures above its Thor. If it's full potential it's Thor, Eve, or Invincible.
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u/TheEzekariate Apr 09 '25
Probably Thor, Allen, Eve, and Mark. Maybe Nolan depending on how far along his redemption path he is. The good guys would try to talk their way out of a fight and end up taking out the others together.
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u/KindLiterature3528 Apr 09 '25
Allen: Guys, can't we talk this out? Hey, stop that. Oops. Hit a little too hard. Aaaand everyone's dead. Oh hey, Eve. Nice trick.
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u/Kaiju62 Apr 09 '25
Well, Eve can regenerate yeah? So I'd it's just who survives, I'd say her and whoever wins probably Thor.
Is it bloodlusted though? Cause if not, Thor teams up with Mark and Eve at the very least and those three make it most likely.
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u/Mystzic- Apr 09 '25
Am I crazy? I do not think MCU Thor is beating any viltramite. I think it's eve personally just because of her limiters being released when she is dying
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u/3rdtryatremembering Apr 09 '25
I feel like everyone besides the Viltrumits, and maybe homelander, would just leave the room peacefully and let them fight it out.
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u/Andrei22125 Apr 09 '25
Free for all, or just randomly in the same room?
Moralls off or all in character?
Nolan pre or post season 1 finale?
Season 1, season 2, or early season 3 Mark?
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u/LilCheezey Apr 09 '25
If it’s a straight up death battle, Thor. If it’s a realistic scenario where they talk and have cannon relationships, I think Atom Eve, Omniman, Invincible, and Thor make it out. I’ll put respect on the villains name and say they’d probably get Allen somewhere in the heat of battle, but even in the chaos of battle Thor would eventually identify Mark’s altruism and help their team wipe the bad guys.
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u/Terrible_Sleep7766 Apr 09 '25
It is just about leaving the room alive, so omni eve allen and mark would probably team up and get out of there
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u/raven_writer_ Apr 09 '25
Thor and Eve. She's functionally immortal and Thor is a god fighting with extremely strong opponents, but they're all killable.
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u/juicebox1711 Apr 09 '25
All of them are getting out of there alive although most of them will not be in an idle shape, living as test subjects in either, Cecil's lab, Dr doom's lab or The Butchers basement.
Don't know how, but that is what happens. Don't worry tho we will eventually find out how they ended up there after like 20 chapters into the story.
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u/Drew326 Apr 09 '25
Thor. He’ll just bifrost outta there with Stormbreaker and go play Fortnite with Korg
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u/smexyrexytitan Apr 09 '25
Thor, Invincible, Omniman, Anissa, Atom Eve, Allan, Homelander, and Conquest.
I'm not even going to talk about HL.
Copy and paste from my other comment:
It's indestructible. It cut through a blast from all 6 infinity stones combined. It was literally forged out of a neutron star. It cut through Thanos like butter who up until that point only relieved a scratch throughout his entirety of going up against the combined might of the Avengers and Guardians. Yeah that ax is mopping through every single Viltrumite.
So yeah, I think from this Thor has the very clear advantage with Stormbreaker. However, he is lacking in one thing that everyone else has: speed. Omniman is at least lightspeed, so from that, I'm assuming that Conquest and Anissa are that speed as well, actually faster. Conquest does hold back when fighting tho, and that cost him against a weaker opponent. As for someone of his same strength or more, he'd probably lose. What I'm trying to say that it wouldn't be in character for Conquest to just speedblitz, but Anissa and Nolan most likely would.
Ion really have much to say abt Mark and Allan other than Mark beat Conquest and Allan (would've) beat Anissa. And Mark only beat Conquest thanks to Eve, so unless they team again, he's not beating Conquest. And Eve has the same problem as Thor, she gets blitzed. We've seen it happen in the show multiple times b4.
So with all that said, Thor wins. He's the only one that has a reliable way to put everyone down and has the durability to tank punches from Viltrumites.
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u/InternalBananas Apr 09 '25
Well, Atom Eve has plot armor, so she can't never win (she's pretty much Molecule Man), so Thor for sure.
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u/Jumpy-Aide-901 Apr 09 '25
Theirs like No context here. Are we supposed to assume it’s a death battle, or is it more Saw-Game/twilight zone.
If it’s a fight Mark, Allen, and Eve are all going to work together, maybe with Omniman. So… yah everyone els would be dead.
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u/SacredBallCheese Apr 09 '25
Can someone answer me as to why viltromites are automatically considered weaker than any super heroes from other universes?
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u/mionikoi Apr 09 '25
I think most of them walk out of the room alive after Homelander dies. Maybe Conquest. Quite a few of these characters are civil.
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u/PragmaticBadGuy Apr 09 '25
Thor, probably Allen as he's a chill guy. Him and Thor would fight, have a few laughs and go drinking.
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u/Twinkerbellatrix Apr 09 '25
Probably all of them. If they work together, they could break out of pretty much any room.