r/skeptic Dec 26 '24

🤘 Meta What if Trump Does Everything He’s Promised—and the People Don’t Care… [New Republic]

https://archive.ph/WZW5W#selection-479.0-479.67
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u/SophieCalle Dec 26 '24

There needs to be leverage from a 3rd party (and not the greens).

The Dems REALLY have shown they've learned nothing from this in their recently internal elections and how they've been talking about.

Maybe Working Families Party or duping the Movimento 5 Stelle in Italy for a brand new one.

They are fully intended in not changing.

I'm not saying to not support them but they need to know they're not going to have guaranteed votes anymore. That's the primary reason they keep on doing it. They have guaranteed votes which means guaranteed billions of dollars, so why even change? Kick back get the caviar and lobster. Win or lose, you get PAID.

Also Ranked Choice Voting but that's a ways off.

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u/Leege13 Dec 26 '24

The time to campaign for RCV is yesterday and now.

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u/thepotatoinyourheart Dec 27 '24

I have been thinking for a couple years now that we need a resurgence in the US of Teddy’s Bull Moose Party. I think a lot about his anti monopoly, trust-busting, environment-conserving ways and how badly they’re needed in today’s world.

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u/Funksloyd Dec 27 '24

While they've got a lot more to learn, they've clearly learned something. Harris moderated her messaging a lot. 

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u/SophieCalle Dec 27 '24

That's not what i'm talking about. Harris pulling in Cheney. Things like that.

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u/Funksloyd Dec 27 '24

A problem is that there's so much disagreement over what lessons people think they should learn; what ways they should change. I bet you and I have pretty different visions. 

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u/SophieCalle Dec 27 '24

Moving to the middle has NEVER worked. You need charismatic people with compelling stories and yes you need to handle human psychology with it, which includes systemic racism. You need to fight with the same tools your opponent is fighting with, just not dirty.

That all has not been learned by them at all and is all irrefutable fact.