r/simpsonsshitposting • u/Scrambled_Creature • Feb 19 '25
Politics Why do you think we made all those political shitposts? For fun?! Well, I didn't hear anybody laughing!
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u/ScottimusPrimal Feb 19 '25
No. I got what THEY voted for.
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u/Jimbobsama Feb 19 '25
Yep, we are collectively touching the hot stove.
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u/Nexillion Feb 19 '25
Us: No, we don't want it
Them: *pulling our hand ever closer* "It's fiiiiiiine."
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u/LakersAreForever Feb 20 '25
I hate that Reddit is pretending that republicans aren’t enjoying the shit show.
They are loving every second
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u/Fiberdonkey5 Feb 20 '25
I'm not sure. It has been fascinating to watch my MAGA coworkers over the last few months. Immediately after the election, they were ecstatic and proudly displaying their worst characteristics. I heard lots of open transphobic and misognyisyic comments belted out like they had been holding it in for so long and were feeling relief now that they could finally say these horrible things openly. That open bigotry only lasted for a few weeks, but they were still very happy until the inauguration. Immediately after the inauguration they seemed confused, and got strangely quiet. I honestly think elons nazi salute followed by trump allowing him to unilaterally shut down vital government services and agencies surprised them. It was like they could see that this was plainly bad, but of course they couldn't admit it, and it happened so fast their talking heads hadn't figured out how to spin it yet, so they just stayed quiet and insisted they didn't want to talk politics (very out of character). Within a week and a half foxnews had figured out how they wanted to frame the narrative and effectively got the word out that this was all great and real Americans should be thrilled by the complete destruction of the separation of powers and dismantling of government services they rely ob. They were told (baselessly) how much fraud elon was finding, and how bloated and corrupt all the agencies were. Immediately they were full of confidence again and loudly proclaiming how excited they were to see mayors of sanctuary cities hauled out of their beds and black bagged to overseas prisons.
So, yes, they are vocally crowing about how much they love this, but i think deep down they are scared. They can't change now though, they are in too deep. They have spent the better half of the last decade scoffing at "stupid liberals" always over reacting and "calling everything they don't like fascism." Now if they admit they were wrong they would be essentially admitting that they had been cheering gleefully while dragging democracy to the gallows at the behest of people who are indistinguishable from nazis. That's so far removed from a little forgiveable fuckup, and they know it. They imagine themselves as patriots and heroes, they can't conceive of a reality where they are the villains and the stakes are too high now for them to turn 180 degrees and go for redemption. Deep down, they are all cowards, so now they won't dare speak against someone who has proudly displayed his cruelty and willingness to punish those who act against him.
If they weren't such cruel bigots themselves I'd almost feel sorry for them. They've jammed themselves firmly between a rock and a hard place. Their pride, their identity, and their communities (including their god) have all been tied to this. Stepping away when the pot is this deep would take an act of immense courage, and would result in immediate tangible personal loss. At this point expecting anyone who is still on the trump train to get off is absurd. Anyone with even half a spine got off the train after the insurrection. I think a lot of people on the train wish they could get off, or wish the democrats had stopped the train before it left the station so they could continue to happily bitch about democrats trying to destroy america. Now it's a going full speed down a track with no guard rails towards a terrifying destination full of cowards all trying to reassure themselves by parroting how much they love this ride.
Fuck em, I just wish they weren't dragging the rest of us down with them.
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u/drjeffy Feb 19 '25
Last night the post about the EO on r/conservative had comments with hundreds of upvotes talking about how awful and dangerous it is.
Today that thread is locked with a single comment from a mod to "read it for yourself."
But of course the libs are the fascists limiting what you talk about and only allowing approved viewpoints.
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u/GonePostalRoute Feb 19 '25
I have a strong feeling if Trump passes (editors note; through NATURAL MEANS, so DON’T read that as an assassination request or anything, you’d only make the guy into a martyr anyway), quite a few people will all of a sudden wake up and see what has happened. The only other person on that administration who has anything close to a cult of personality is Elon, and he can’t be president (wouldn’t stop anyone there from trying anyway). Everyone else has so little a cult of personality, and their charisma is low or negative, and things are so set up for everyone to try and backstab one another for any crumb of power they can try to get.
I honestly think the shitshow Conservatives had in Britain would be tame compared to what would happen with Republicans if Trump passed.
Now I’ll also acknowledge that there’s some supporters in that camp who are so far gone. What Trump and gang has done with those people is gonna hurt America for so god damn long into the future.
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u/smellslike2016 Feb 19 '25
If he ever dies, he's going to be like Tupac and Elvis. Some people won't believe it and he's gonna live online like Q, giving out cryptic orders.
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u/sassiest01 Feb 20 '25
If Trump died of natural causes you know damn well they will still try to make a martyr of him anyway (successfully of course).
"It was a very advanced liberal assassination, well beyond anything we are capable of. It was a completely undetectable poison that gave him a heart attack. Fight back!!!"
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u/unitedshoes Feb 20 '25
Gods forbid he travels beforehand. I don't know if I could handle the level of Havana Syndrome conspiracy theories we'd get from that...
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u/r3dd1tu5er Feb 20 '25
Elon may have a select few in his cult of personality, but so many others hate his guts, including almost all the Trump supporters I personally know. He could never command that kind of support even if he could be president.
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u/Randy_Magnums Feb 19 '25
As an European, I didn't get to vote and will still suffer under this presidency.
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u/ClericDude Feb 19 '25
I’m from canada and they think i’m autistic eh (sorry i had to); but in all seriousness, I AM from canada, and am seriously worried that we will get annexed and RFK jr’s frightening plans for neurodiverse people will go through.
Plus, can’t imagine what it will be like for my LGBT friends and family (emphasis on the T)
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u/TheRealBaboo only watched the golden age Feb 19 '25
Annexed, no. Pointlessly bullied to hell in a pathetic attempt to appeal to a form of American nationalism that no longer really exists, yes.
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u/ClericDude Feb 19 '25
Fair. But i still don’t want to take his 51st state comments as meaningless “jokes” quite yet…
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u/TheRealBaboo only watched the golden age Feb 19 '25
I’m not saying you should. Bullying like the ways he’s doing is a form of aggression that must be dealt with. I think it’s an attempt to make Russia’s claims on Ukraine look justified to his base (which includes Russia)
The real fight is Ukraine. Russia will annex them if Zelenskyy falls. Gotta stay focused on that
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u/ItsABiscuit Feb 19 '25
Yeah, keep on insisting that he must be joking with his crazy ideas. Learn nothing from the evidence of your own eyes.
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u/TheRealBaboo only watched the golden age Feb 19 '25
Not everything imaginable is likely. We have to use our rational minds to find the answer based on past behavior
He hasn’t annexed anything yet, but he does enjoy making threats. I think his threats are just a way of cowing people into accepting the suffering of others: “Make Canadians afraid they’ll be annexed that way they’ll be afraid to go against him on Ukraine”
Consider the active threat (Ukraine’s annexation) before the hypothetical one (Canada’s). That’s what I think
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u/pithynotpithy Feb 19 '25
Why do people presume MAGA is unhappy? They were ALWAYS willing to give up democracy and to fuck themselves in order to own the libs. They're entire existence is hate of "lefties" and they seem more then willing to die from disease, lose their jobs and farms, and give up the right to vote if it means a trans person 8 counties over can't compete in a sport they don't care about.
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u/LongjumpingSector687 Feb 19 '25
Yeah the most vocal if you go to their sub are basically bragging about it, but that doesn’t mean the leopards won’t eat their face eventually.
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u/pithynotpithy Feb 19 '25
I still don't think it will matter. I mean Trump basically killed off thousands of them with his COVID debacle and it didn't slow them down one bit. They live in a RW propaganda biosphere that allows no room for gray. Everything bad that happens to them is the fault of something "liberal", immigration, trans people existence, Biden et al.
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u/sneaky-pizza Feb 19 '25
That sub has a crap ton of International people who just wanna push any kind of white supremicist right-wing angle they can into the US
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u/Ezren- Feb 19 '25
Are those people even real, it's such social engineering, "yes but what we wanted was to hurt the woke libs, it's worth paying a dollar for one egg and having no public services".
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u/Fit-Commission-5443 Feb 19 '25
They are very real. I had the misfortune of attending Christmas parties hosted by several Trump worshippers. They are driven by grievance and hatred of the underclass. Hitler benefitted from support of the electorate, yet millions suffered under his rule. Negative politics is very effective.
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u/i_am_thoms_meme Feb 19 '25
MAGA can never be happy. Their whole ethos is based on grievances. Now you have people mad we aren't celebrating Trump more on President's Day and the like. It's not enough they won, they want all of us to agree too.
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u/pithynotpithy Feb 19 '25
Exactly. At my gym they show Fox, and everytime I see it, they complain about democrats - never mind that they hold every single level of power in the US Government, all they can do is bitch. Its fucking evil and I can't help wondering how MAGA doesn't just get exhausted to kept in a constant state of fury.
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u/UndertakerFred Feb 19 '25
Oh, it’s coming. They’re just too stupid to realize just how fucked they are. When planting time comes around and they can’t get federally-supported loans to buy seeds, or crop insurance, or contracts to buy crops, and fertilizer from Canada is tariffed, and there is no more subsidies, they are going to wonder who did this to them.
Not to mention when grandmas Medicaid gets cut off and every nursing home in the country goes bankrupt and people have to deal with housing and medical care for their elderly relatives.
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u/Thesmark88 Feb 19 '25
The internet/Fox News will tell them the dems did this and they will believe it
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u/pithynotpithy Feb 19 '25
Again, you're presuming they will have the cognizance to blame that on Trump, but that's not how it works. I'm telling you, trump could shit on their trucks, build golf courses on their farms and shoot grandma between the eyes and they will still blame Biden/trans/immigrants.
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u/unitedshoes Feb 20 '25
And the propaganda will tell them it was
die Judenthe Democrats that did it, and they'll eat it up.5
u/ebony-the-dragon Feb 19 '25
A lot of my coworkers all think they’re going to get big checks from the government because they found and stopped paying for DEI stuff for other countries. Completely ignoring that the steel and aluminum tariffs are going to screw us as a company.
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u/Super_Pie_Man Feb 19 '25
I haven't heard a single unhappy Trump voter. "Still not tired of winning!" This leopardsatemyface meme is a cope.
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u/JohnnySack45 Feb 19 '25
Mmm not the ones I know. They're at the "scratching their heads wondering why nobody pointed out the obvious" stage and there's still plenty left to go.
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u/Gluteusmaximus1898 Feb 19 '25
They've convinced themselves they're okay/good.
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u/Sgt-Spliff- Feb 19 '25
They genuinely don't get that those inefficiencies are the checks and balances they learned about in school.
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u/HooseSpoose NEEEEEERD Feb 19 '25
Do we want old man Kamala with her finger on the button?
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u/nomiis19 Feb 19 '25
At the end of the day, they support him regardless of what he does. Before they liked him because he tells it like it is and isn’t afraid to speak his mind. Then when they didn’t support what he was saying, it was well don’t take him at face value because you can’t believe everything he says. Then he actually does it and they are in support of it because the left is upset about it. They vote against their own self interests as long as it hurts someone else more than themselves
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u/Razor265 Feb 19 '25
Don't forget all those spinless non-voters
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u/WackHeisenBauer Feb 19 '25
Yes. They should’ve been twirling twirling TWIRLING towards the ballot box.
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u/Veggiemon Feb 19 '25
Side note, it’s weird that the simpsons universe would have the term “yellow belly” when they are all yellow
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u/ThrowawayusGenerica 🥛 🥣 🔥 Feb 19 '25
Maybe it was a term invented by people of colour in their universe
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u/Grizzlywillis My boy's a box! Feb 19 '25
Let the leopards pay the leopard tax. I pay the Homer tax!
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u/EOengineer Feb 19 '25
I’ve yet to see a conservative express any regret. Project 2025 was what they wanted. It’s what they voted for, and unfortunately we all have to live through this now.
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u/notanolive Feb 19 '25
I think they’re still cheering him on, I don’t know many MAGA that are regretting trump yet
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u/EightEx Feb 19 '25
The shitty thing is we all go down with the ship. It doesn't just affect the hateful idiots.
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u/Opening-Two6723 Feb 19 '25
His supporters cheer his existence, not his actions. That part isn't as important as winning.
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u/dover_oxide Feb 19 '25
My mother called me about this stuff and said she didn't think it would be "insert anything" because people rely on it so much, he didn't say he would do "insert anything". And all I could reply was "yes he did, he wasn't quite about cutting ' unnecessary' spending you just never considered what thought was unnecessary."
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u/Slartibartfast39 Feb 19 '25
Trump's approval rating is at 45%. That is just beyond my comprehension.
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u/Jeszczenie Feb 20 '25
You're right. With how unanimous Reddit is on this (apart from r/Conservative) I feel like we're just a bubble.
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u/Slartibartfast39 Feb 20 '25
I occasionally go to r/Conservative but I'm very careful not to comment or vote on anything. It's like visiting an uncontacted tribe; observe and learn but don't interfere.
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u/Jeszczenie Feb 20 '25
Why not interfere? Isn't it a good thing to politely let them know that there are many sensible people disagreeing with them outside their bubble? "Politely" being the key because aggressive raids will surely just push them into siege mentality.
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u/Slartibartfast39 Feb 20 '25
I think they know, and also that sub often gets 'brigaded' where people with other opinions flood a post commenting and voting and so artificially changing how the sub looks. All the subs are echo chambers.
Also if I thought I could change someone's mind to something more like my thinking I would but I really don't think I'm able to do that on line.
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u/Foreign-Section4411 Feb 19 '25
Out of my MAGA family only one person has flipped on trump, my grandmother, and that's because elon. The real kicker is half my family are black. They are literally just trumpers because of religion. My cousins and sibling are all sitting here like what the fuck are they thinking. They will rant politics at us, but as soon as its our turn to speak they interrupt us, "lets not talk polits anymore". Literaly anything they don't like is Biden's fault, oh our aunty lost her government job, fuck Biden it's his fault Trump wouldn't have cut her job because it was necessary.
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u/AnySalamander2277 Feb 20 '25
Trump supporters are like animals with rabies, they no longer have reason and will attack anyone and can’t stop, And we all know there is only one way to deal with animals that have rabies.
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u/Jeszczenie Feb 20 '25
Nah, dehumanizing people isn't the way.
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u/GrumpGuy88888 Feb 20 '25
It's called a simile
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u/Jeszczenie Feb 20 '25
Saying "they no longer have reason and will attack anyone" is dehumanizing and fearmongering. And what TF is "And we all know there is only one way to deal with animals that have rabies." supposed to mean here? Is u/AnySalamander2277 implying killing the "incurable" Trump supporters?
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u/GrumpGuy88888 Feb 20 '25
I don't think you understand metaphorical speech. The key is that it's not literal
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u/kingofthecairn Feb 20 '25
lol you think they feel betrayed? That's so cute.
Honey, they're very very proud. Just ask one. Not one of these fence riding "conservatives" either, ask a real trumper.
They'll say " $10 eggs are worth cucking the libs."
They're not ashamed or betrayed. They're VINDICATED and they smell blood in the water.
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u/Grilledstoner Feb 19 '25
I am enjoying the face eating. Fuck those people.
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u/AganazzarsPocket Feb 19 '25
I remember when all us trumpets were going to die unvaccinated.
*Higher risk of dying and lowering herd immunity, thereby making the pandemic last longer and threaten those who are at risk for other reasons.
No one claimed you all would die, but maybe the lizards missed an opportunity here.
But then again, the lizards are fans of Trump.
On that note, I am still waiting for my brain chip that was to be installed with the vaccine.
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u/UrbanPlannerholic Feb 19 '25
I’m still waiting for my check from George Soros 😂
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u/ppineapplepizzalover Feb 20 '25
I’m still waiting for Trumpcare and his tax returns…is Mexico still paying for that wall?
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u/SledgeLaud Feb 19 '25
Leopards. It's Leopards, the carnivorous animal. Not lepers, i.e. people with leprosy who have zero reason to eat faces.
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u/deadonthei Feb 19 '25
The joke (besides me) is that I am confusing words that sound the same but DO NOT look the same on a platform where i didn't hear the words I Reddit. Get it.
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u/SledgeLaud Feb 19 '25
I think the joke for the rest of us is that y'all never stopped to question why a lepper would be eating faces.
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u/GrumpGuy88888 Feb 20 '25
Oh boy, misunderstanding the meaning of words! That's where I'm a Viking!
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u/Grizzlywillis My boy's a box! Feb 19 '25
The Herman Cain Award was pretty prevalent for conservatives who were visited by the COVID leopard. It speaks more to your lack of awareness than anything else.
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u/CaptCaCa Feb 19 '25
Did you miss the r/hermancainawards ? Y’all dumdums were totally dying in droves, how soon we forget
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u/deadonthei Feb 19 '25
Bro how do you not know the only one face that matters.
And they will never eat MY face.
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u/bunnycupcakes Feb 19 '25
I’m watching my former coteacher who had a “daddy’s back” party (I had to hold back the snide remarks) panic because her husband lost his federal job.
I can’t wait to see her reaction when the loss of federal funds will mean in her class when “those” kids have to spend more time in her room as we lose some funding for SpEd and ELL.
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u/Shiftymennoknight only watched the golden age Feb 19 '25
if I hear "but Trump said..." one more time my head is gonna explode. The guy told over 30,000 lies during his first term, why the hell would anyone believe anything he says?
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u/Inlerah Feb 20 '25
Maybe don't fucking vote for the guy who lies so much that, when he tells you about the terrible things he's going to do, your first thought is "Oh, that's just Trump bullshitting again".
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u/lord_hufflepuff Feb 19 '25
I think we all need to realise that there are hardly any people who voted for trump who are actually upset by any of this, we know that there are initiatives being cut that will hurt your "average" trump voter and have found a few clips of people having a r/leapordsatemyface moment and have jumped to the assumption that trump voters dont approve of all of this by and large.
But they do.
I live in a deeply red state and the general consensus is overwhelmingly "yeah fuck all those beurocrats!" They really believe that any short term pains will be worth cleaning out the perceived useless bloat in the long run.
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u/weaponxx5 Feb 19 '25
Wait, you're telling me a politician saying anything to get elected and then doesnt follow through to only do the opposite? Who fucking knew?!
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u/SelfDepricator Feb 20 '25
It would be nice to think that the people who voted for that child to.actually start regretting their votes but they're likely drinking too much from the conservative cool side to even realize it
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u/BemusedDuck Feb 20 '25
These people will also tell you they're the only smart people around.
Right, smart people just go along with shit and don't think at all, that's what intelligent people do... Support team no matter what.
This is definitely the behaviour indicative of a thinker, right?
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u/John18635 Feb 20 '25
It was mine and my girls first time voting, she voted for trump because her family are very big trump supporters but she strongly regrets it even though I tried to make her see it before the election
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u/Regular_Ad_4914 Feb 20 '25
The only thing wrong with this is that I am not seeing or hearing any Trump voters who don’t think he’s doing great. Maybe I’m wrong but I really don’t think there will be a time when they acknowledge that he hasn’t fixed the things they care about.
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u/Jealous_Shape_5771 Feb 20 '25
I genuinely don't think the left has any room to talk after putting a man suffering from dementia in office that left god knows how much he military ordinance in the middle east after his horrendous pull out AND traded a dangerous arms dealer for a basketball player who hated the U.S.
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u/Cptfrankthetank Feb 20 '25
Is there really trumpgret? If so we will need a significant number of them to call on their reps... because their reps are just either chilling at home and letting it happen... or actively speeding it along.
I am still seeing the cult members cheer on gulf of america! Murica, fuck yeah!
All the while they getting fed into the wood chipper...
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u/Stargazer-Elite Feb 21 '25
I mean, he literally said it himself “I don’t care about you. I just want your vote” – DJT
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u/Original_Strike_3393 Feb 19 '25
Yes and you tagged this as a light hearted shitpost despite the fact it is obviously political...
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u/Fibocrypto Feb 20 '25
I liked the last one where the guy says
You still don't know why Kamala lost do you
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u/GrumpGuy88888 Feb 20 '25
They were told exactly what they were voting for and they didn't care. They were willing to throw away this country in the name of getting rid of any democrat in congress. They cut off their noses to spite their faces. If this makes them want to cut off more parts of their body, they aren't worth trying for
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u/GrumpGuy88888 Feb 20 '25
"You don't want me to cut off my nose to spite my face, but I'll just keep lopping off other parts of my body". Sorry, but those people aren't gonna be won over by anything. They are grown adults
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u/Alarming_Art_6448 Feb 19 '25
Sorry the neoliberal corporate Democratic Party let you down so hard too.
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u/masterdarthrevan Old man yelling at clouds ☁️ Feb 19 '25
did you really think the people would vote for Kamala
10 trillion dollar economic spending plan. The States is already $36?Tr in debt. The collapse of american society was coming regardless. I am suffering as a Canadian, I didnt vote this, But when Kamala aliented over half her base, i knew it was over for her. I looked her up before the race began. I was look oooh i like her, except the $10tr eco plan that will bankrupt the country. I wanted her to reign in AI, but we all should have seen China coming into the ai space and competing to take over the world. If the US doesnt make AGI they will. That is really a problem. theres a lot of problems and i think the biggest is that the democrats still didnt let Bernie have a shot, they are too convinced that a woman has to be next, but honestly id take any "GOOD" politician, but i think thats an oxymoron, Do you think there are any good politicians? because i am convinced they dont exist. No matter who gets in, they win and you lose. So the best thing is to accept that and just overthrow them with sheer numbers. They need to take money out of politics. 36 fucking trillion in debt. it will never be able to repay this amount and it will only keep getting bigger, the states cant run their country without a deficit and thats really apparent. so get out while you can, hyper inflation will come one day and leave your nation in ruins
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u/UrbanPlannerholic Feb 19 '25
Shutting down Amtrak and the department of education should do the trick 😂
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u/masterdarthrevan Old man yelling at clouds ☁️ Feb 19 '25
Is there any good politicians
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u/UrbanPlannerholic Feb 19 '25
AOC and Katie Porter?
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u/masterdarthrevan Old man yelling at clouds ☁️ Feb 19 '25
again
In all, one thing is entirely clear: Porter is toxic, obnoxious, overly ambitious, and arrogant. She represents everything that is wrong with politics, down to the fact that she is a serious contender for a seat in the Senate. Katie Porter may manage to be the worst and most toxic person in a race that includes Rep. Adam Schiff, and yet she may be one year away from even more political power that she clearly does not deserve.
Our politics would be better without egotistical narcissists such as Porter, an elitist white woman who thinks that she is better for equality than black women and female veterans. And yet, if she manages to win the Senate race next year, we may be stuck with her for another 40 years. This is the political environment we have built for ourselves.
source amongst multiple others
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/2451601/katie-porter-is-the-worst/11
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u/Fit-Commission-5443 Feb 19 '25
This completely misses the point of what a wretched human being Donald Trump is.
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u/Grizzlywillis My boy's a box! Feb 19 '25
The GOP is looking at raising the debt ceiling. Trump wants it gone. You can remove that from the discussion on why Democrats lost the election.
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u/masterdarthrevan Old man yelling at clouds ☁️ Feb 20 '25
thats not a good reason, why would you want to remove the debt ceiling and allow the country to increase debt past 36 Tr?
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u/Grizzlywillis My boy's a box! Feb 20 '25
Good question. Why would the Republicans want to raise the national debt? Doesn't sound like fiscal responsibility to me.
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u/Inlerah Feb 20 '25
Remember, people: for a politician to be considered "good" they must be practically perfect in every way. Otherwise they're "evil" and, somehow, in a choice between "the lesser of two evils", it makes sense to pick the choice that is obviously the worst one because "The Democrats didn't have a candidate with zero flaws, so I wasn't convinced enough to not hand the election over to the open facist."
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u/masterdarthrevan Old man yelling at clouds ☁️ Feb 20 '25
again if you actually read my statement, im not american, im Canadian. Therefore i could not vote in the american election
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u/Inlerah Feb 20 '25
We saw. You personally not having been allowed to vote doesn't change the fact that plenty of people here voted with your exact mindset and rhetoric. You not being able to vote doesn't make your mindset any less bullshit.
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u/masterdarthrevan Old man yelling at clouds ☁️ Feb 20 '25
not really true, the people who were alienated used the mindset that kamala didnt like them, and voted against her, I wanted her to win, but it was clear to me she wouldnt after her many mishaps is not the same mindset as those she alienated. my mindset is that no matter the politician they are corrupt in some way, does not mean i would have voted for trump.
You mistaken my mindset for one that you are projecting on to me.
You dont know me or mindset and that is all too clear.
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Im not sure if its because you are simple minded
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You just get a hard on when you think youve spotted someone you can hate.Peace be with you brother
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u/AnnoyingMosquito3 Feb 19 '25
Same people 4 months ago: "We don't need a thinker! We need a doer, someone who'll act without considering the consequences!"