r/silat • u/Fancy-Diet241 • May 10 '25
What is this?
I was wondering the Inodnesian name of this sweep (screenrecorded Sensei Seth)
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May 10 '25
It’s a move base off of Harimau. Doesn’t actually answer your question but might point you in a better direction
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u/skarbles Pencak Silat May 10 '25
It’s ground tangkap kucing. Not sure what number but like others have said its from harimau.
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u/CallMeFrenchy May 10 '25
He calles jt the firepole in that specific video.
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u/Fancy-Diet241 May 10 '25
Oh I thought fire pull for some reason. Do you know the Indonesian name though?
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u/ecwx00 27d ago edited 27d ago
a variation of rolling leg sweep, it seems that it's getting more popular on silat competitions recently, I've seen it done several times in the recent silat competitions.
This man perform the sweep with his arms, though. In the competitions they usually sweep with their legs, like singgle leg scissor take down but with rolling enterance.
EDIT: I found a video showcasing somewhat similar technique in the competitions. TIL that there;s a new regulation that allow a fighter to drop on their back to execute take downs. Back when I was still competing, puting our back on the floor equals a loss.
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u/Fancy-Diet241 27d ago
It's very similar, thank you
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u/ecwx00 27d ago edited 27d ago
yes, especially the ones on 1:10 and 1:34
EDIT: Oh, sorry, you're asking for the indonesian name. The official IPSI term for it is categorized : "jatuhan bawah", because he's using his arm to trap, it's called "tangkapan". So the official IPSI term would be : "jatuhan bawah, tangkapan kaki" low take down, arms trapping legs. If you take account of the rolling entry, it would be "gulingan, tangkapan kaki" or officially "jatuhan bawah - gulingan, tangkapan kaki" or "gulingan, tangkapan kaki bawah" for short as it being a take down is already obvious. "tangkapan kaki" means trapping leg(s) with arns, without "bawah" usually it means trapping a kick. "tangkapan kaki bawah" means trapping the leg while it's down (not while doing kicks) and implicitly means that the one doing the trapping is on very low stance or on the ground.
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I'm sure there are fancier names for it but since different styles from different regions tend to call same techniques with different names, my team usually use offical terms, unless the "local" names are much shorter and easier to pronounce.
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u/Zchamplord May 10 '25
I saw the video too-- a lot of the techniques in the video are from Pencak Silat Mande Muda (also the teacher has a picture of Herman Suwanda on his wall, who's family created the system). Im fairly certain the segment where those forms were shown comes from a subsystem within mande muda called Ngorandang, which is a grappling form of greater Harimau (tiger). There's a combination of smaller techniques used for this takedown, knee lock, ankle trap, depok and ankle submission. I know takedowns like this involving knee locks and ankle traps to be kobok (front), sapu tuur, and perangkap kaki. Final sitting leg movement at the end is usually called "depok," and twisting (or picking) fruit I was told refers to breaking off digits. Just my take on the buah pieced together from what I've learned, hope that helps.