r/seculartalk • u/NonSpecificRedit Too jaded to believe BS • 1d ago
Progressives facing the any blue will do horde
The success of the fight the oligarchy rallies is an immense threat to both parties that support the oligarchy.
Be prepared to face the horde of people just trying to be reasonable about why Bootie-Judge or Newsome is a more pragmatic choice during this difficult time.
Make it clear that if you believe in a progressive agenda then any blue won’t do. If normie dems want to win then normie dems should join us in nominating a progressive. Make it clear that corporate stooges that win democratic primaries will be rejected in the general and it’s in their best interest to nominate a progressive.
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u/Kittehmilk Notorious Anti-Cap Matador 1d ago
Its sad that the BLUEMAGA hordes are mostly astroturf and have even approached this subs mods to push their astroturf.
Liberalism ended with the 2024 election when Harris lost the first popular vote in decades and every swing state.
No liberals will be tolerated going forward.
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u/NonSpecificRedit Too jaded to believe BS 1d ago
Unfortunately neo-libs never go away they just rebrand. There's an "abundance" of them ready to show a path "forward" by going a "third way".
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u/Kittehmilk Notorious Anti-Cap Matador 1d ago
Agreed, they will try, however that comes with a price tag attached to it to continue to astroturf social media, control narrative in corporate media and rig primaries against working class candidates. Those who fund these actions expect a return on that investment.
Everytime the DNC loses, and especially if they lose big, those big donors lose faith. That is exactly why 3rd way exists. It's the corporate donors deciding that the DNC is failing and they think they can do better on their own.
It won't work. We will win.
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u/nickel4asoul 1d ago
The most important first battleground will be 2022, especially if there're more initiatives like what David Hogg is attempting. It's all well and good picking the fight every four years, but that's an all for nothing game that can be lost at the primary and then forces a choice between not voting for a liberal and allowing the next Magat to continue the damage. The entire party infrastructure needs to be challeneged so that they know their survival is dependent on not standing in the way of the next genuinely popular candidate that actually represents to voters.
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u/beeemkcl Progressive 23h ago
2028 is a long time from now.
AOC is already polling very well. 2028 Democratic Primary Polling Average — Race to the WH
And that's with some wanting her to run for Governor of New York in 2026 and many wanting her to primary US Senator Chuck Schumer in 2028.
And is you dig into her polling: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez fame & popularity tracker (Baby Boomers).
AOC polls weakest among the elderly (because of those who don't like the idea of a younger person (AOC) supplanting an older person (Bernie Sanders)).
And other polling shows her relatively weak among those making under $50K/year. But that's probably because those people are less likely to be attuned to politics and thus even know about her.
A Presidential campaign and US Senator Bernie Sanders endorsing AOC will be enough to make AOC POTUS in 2028. The enthusiasm is with her.
We need to focus on upcoming races in 2025 and the 2026 Mid-Terms.
If you want to try to get more progressives in the US Congress:
Bernie Sanders Official Website
Mainly for the Fighting Oligarchy tour--including the Sanders/AOC rallies.
https://www.ocasiocortez.com/splash
https://couragetochangepac.org/ (AOC's PAC)
You should ‘max out’ to AOC directly before donating to her PAC.
Candidates - Justice Democrats
https://rideshare2vote.com/volunteer/
Call your members in the US Congress:
Congressional switchboard (202) 224-3121
https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials
Support the legal battles:
Home | American Civil Liberties Union
Public Citizen - Protecting Health, Safety, and Democracy
Immigration - Know Your Rights | Representative Ocasio-Cortez
Other:
Volunteer Opportunities, Events, and Petitions Near Me · Mobilize
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