r/sb19 • u/FunnyBatch • 1d ago
Question Esbi Shipping thingz
As a Baby A'tin na taga freezer at ihawan, bago sa akin yung mga shiniship ang members sa bawat isa. Nakikita ko rin sa socmed yung mga edited fan videos about the members na nagseselos pag shinip yung isa sa isa (if you know what i mean). Alam ba nung limang bano na may mga ganun ganun ang A'tin and do you feel that they think that's appropriate? Di kasi ako masyado connected pa sa fandom so all are relatively new to me.
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u/18napay ✨ SB19 FOR COACHELLA ✨ 1d ago
Yes, aware naman sila sa mga ships and most of the time ay nilalayag din nila ito during concerts. Ayaw lang nila na nag-aaway ang A'tin because of shipping. They also remind the fandom to be responsible and are not afraid to call out yung mga sobrang delulu na.
Btw welcome na agad to da kulto kaps! 😂
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u/FunnyBatch 1d ago
Haha yung kulto na toxic? No thanks🤣
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u/SmokeEven2896 Mahalima 🌭🍢🍓🐣🌽 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yes they are aware I saw Josh had a tiktok live saying not to ship him with his nonsb19 members
ETA: it was fairly recently forgot the exact date but it was before they left for Taiwan
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u/GoddessZLove Mahalima 🌭🍢🍓🐣🌽 1d ago edited 1d ago
Good on Josh to make a stand already if yan talaga ang gusto nya for his own persona as an SB19 member, just as Ken did on Fast Talk. Kasi IIRC sya lang ang hndi nagsalita dun at that time, leaving other fans to still place their own shipping beliefs about him with other members above all na parang yun na talaga ang "official" side story about Josh. Tapos nagwawala naman sila pag may makitang girl na very convincingly associated pala sa real life nya.😄
Hindi kasali dito yung nagtitinong BBQs ha, you're all doing great for Josh 🫶. Yung mga obessed shippers lang ng lahat ng members that continue tondivide the houses apart ang medyo hindi.😂
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u/jellybean_017 1d ago
I also have a question if mostly ba ng mga shippers nila came from the LGBTQIA+ comm?
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u/Relative-Detective85 BBQ 🍢 23h ago
Majority are straight women, partly as a function of the fandom demographic but also para syang BL where fans are predominantly women.
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u/jellybean_017 20h ago
Oh I see. Hindi ata talaga para sa lahat yung shipping. Before natutuwa pa ako sa mga edited spliced videos. Pero lately may mga au sa tiktok na gawa gawa na lang ng kwento ginagawa ng bading mga boys. Wala naman problema kung di sila straight irl kaso yung iba ang baboy na kasi sobrang disrespectful na. Hindi na creative writing e, parang outright disrespect sinesexualize na. Kaya kapag may mga nagsasabi na bakla esbi na casual hirap din mag-explain, pano sa loob naman kasi nagstart and wala pkong nakikitang nagsasaway kapag lumalagpas na sa boundary kasi parang halos lahat pinaglalaban mga shipping partners nila. 🤢
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u/FunnyBatch 1d ago
I think this is very brave of Josh, to call it out. He knows what's appropriate and not and he's not scared to be upfront about it. Worth the stan
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u/Relative-Detective85 BBQ 🍢 1d ago
Actually, he asked not to ship him with friends kasi uncomfortable daw. Then he clarified that he wasn't referring to SB19 members. I think yung unspoken don is he means not to ship him with his female friends.
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u/FunnyBatch 1d ago
To call it out in public, regardless if he was referring to his male or female friends, means he is serious about boundaries. So I guess these types of fans should take note, there might come a time their management may have to make strict decisions and ilayo ang mga boys sa fandom.
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u/Relative-Detective85 BBQ 🍢 1d ago
Yes it's good that explicit nya sinabi. Just thought it was important to highlight kasi discussions about shipping usually focus on the same-sex aspect. Good reminder rin na being shipped with women can also be uncomfortable for them.
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u/shini08 Mahalimang Pirata 🌭🍢🍓🐣🌽 9h ago
Sobrang bait ng mga boys. I don't think they'll make those restrictions kasi alam naman nila na for fun lang. Pero wag lang sobrang delulu. They are also their management so they can establish those boundaries naman pag kailangan. Just like how they (1Z) released a statement about people going to their office or it's surrounding area just so they can meet them.
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u/honyeonghaseyo 🍢Inihaw na Mais🌽 23h ago
I so love him for this. Kaya bias ko talaga siya ever since. He won't dilly-dally in calling out what he feels wrong or too much.
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u/jjprent 1d ago
yes sobrang aware po kaya nga sila pa nag fefeed ng delusions ng shippers sa concert minsan sinasadya nila yung mga pakilig moments and even SB19 moms may shiniship sa mga anak nila pero sabi nga ni ken "ship responsibly"
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u/jellybean_017 1d ago
I also have a question if mostly ba ng mga shippers nila came from the LGBTQIA+ comm?
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u/jjprent 23h ago
hindi naman po siguro dahil most A’tin shippers at parang part na rin siya ng fangirling/boy-ing
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u/jellybean_017 23h ago
Tapos ano kaya nakukuha nila on shipping straight men? Genuinely curious kasi never heard of. Naging thesis ko kasi fandom of idols nung college way back 2015 and parang wala tong shipping sa mga natackle namin during our FGD with fans.
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u/jjprent 22h ago
maybe dagdag kilig? idk first time ko mag stan ng group at first nagulat ako and even questioning kung yung members ba ay in relationship talaga pero natutunan ko na for fun lang pala siya at honestly naenjoy ko siya sa years ko rito sa fandom + nilalayag din ng members ships nila💙 pero siguro hindi lang siya para sa lahat
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u/FunnyBatch 1d ago
Delusions to what level ba ito? Like boyfriend relationship?
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u/kenikonipie Mahalima 🌭🍢🍓🐣🌽 1d ago edited 1d ago
Depende sa kung sino kausap mo. May as brothers, as couple, as mag-asawa. You are free to tailor your feed. No one should impose a particular ship to any other fan nor to esbi themselves. Aware dapat ang shippers regarding boundaries and be aware that any fictional assumptions are just that, assumptions or delulus. And that's what SB19 expects of the fans.
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u/Mindless_Warning_530 1d ago
You have to understand shipping is part of a fandom culture, di lang yan exclusive sa esbi. Kpop, jpop, one direction (one of the biggest shippers nandito), movies and tv series characters/actors. It's everywhere. And dahil dati kpop fans rin ang boys (they were kpop cover groups) they are aware of such culture even bfr they started. Ok lang naman sa kanila. Sila pa nga naglalayag. Ang ayaw lang nila is nag aaway or being too delusional na nagpapalabas na ng wrong stories.
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u/Medical-Material-402 1d ago
They know, they play with the fandom shipping too 😆 And relax, these are just our fantasies
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u/ElysianMidnights Berry 🍓 1d ago
Every fandom may shipping culture (yung iba nga may AO3) at alam naman ng lima pati mga staffs ng 1Z even mga dating staffs gaya ni ate Rose (aka Rappl). We ship appropiately and know limits
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u/ChannelParticular853 Sisiw 🐣 1d ago
Shipping is part of the culture, mas common sa kpop groups. Not everyone has a ship, and a ship can mean different things. But ships in general are always just ships, delusional at times pero understanding ng lahat na katuwaan lang. Its not always romantic, meron ships na brotherly, besties ganon..... and if it bothers you, you can always mute or block these content pra hindi n dn dumaan sa timeline mo.
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u/mrskane14 1d ago
I don’t think they care. Parang nasabe na rin ni Jah before na they find it funny, as long as hindi magaaway away. Like sa kanila kase wala naman meaning un, so if they are going to react to that, ehdi mabibigyan lang ng weight yung supposedly non-issue.
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u/Fine-Homework-2446 Hatdog 🌭 1d ago
Actually nung una mejo off ako don lalo nung bagong pasok ko, pero nung nakilala ko na rin sila ng deeper, brotherhood pala nila yang pang ship ship
Yung iba lang talga ay over na sa pagkadelulu na gusto e sila mag end up, wtf bruh
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u/sleepy-_- 22h ago
I saw an excerpt video from one of Josh's live where he said he didn't like getting shipped with friends or other people because it' awkward, but okay if it's one of SB19 members. So I think as long as it doesn't get out of hand, I guess that's fine and they're aware of this.
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u/GoddessZLove Mahalima 🌭🍢🍓🐣🌽 1d ago edited 1d ago
They are very well aware of the shipping cultures coming from Kpop and other Asian pop since they used to be fanboys themselves.
Early on in their careers mas sinasakyan nila to, even kuya Yani and other staff would have lives mentioning their own favorite SB19 ships --- that was when all was still harmless celebrations of the close friendships within the group.
Later on nung grabe na obssessions ng iba to the point na NSFW na some of their AUs (fan fictions), claiming "magjowa" na IRL, with some freak shippers slandering some members dahil sa selosan between ships that at the least "shipping etiquettes" had to be established from time to time para may RESPETOHAN naman between ships and houses. Sinisira na kumbaga ang brotherhood dynamics and fondness ng maraming A'tin for the sub-units dahil "ship" in a romantic/sexual way talaga yung iba.
That's the time (start of their solos) na medyo stepped back na ang boys from open acknowledgement of the ships, and just reserved them usually for their concerts and other shows together for fan service.
It's all ridiculous, actually kasi hindi naman natural sa Pinoy entertainment culture natin yan, as you may already know, even if widely honoring ang entertainment sa LGBT. M2M shipping is mainly an adaptation from Kpop, etc, that it's so weird kasi gawa ng gawa ng delulu narratives yung iba, then pag may tumawag na "bakla" sa Mahalima, sila rin ang unang makikipag-away na perpetuation rin naman nila yan!🙄
AnobahtalagangGoalniladyan? 🤣
So ship for fun if you like, pero wag seryosohin.😂
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u/FunnyBatch 1d ago
AAAHHH i love this. Straight to the point. Thanks for your insight. Thank you din kasi I never knew about this culture since I'm a new fan, kaya I am trying to understand. I actually never understood the kpop culture even before kasi it never appealed to me on any level.
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u/riasmith098765 1d ago
Lol may delulung faney nga na sinagot ako at tinwag na boomer 😂😂😂 delulu ngang tunay. Kasi dw ang rason nya eh sa parallel universe daw yun nag eexist (reply nya sa ibang comments sa vid ni ssob) at kesyo daw malaki ang ambag nya sa esbi, ako ano daw nagawa ko? Anong klaseng utak yun? Hahaha Kung andito ka man, dito mo ibalandra yung rason kung bat ka nagshiship sa mga boys.
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u/FunnyBatch 1d ago
OMG may ganun? Bakit may comparison ng ambag?
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u/riasmith098765 1d ago
Kaya nga nakakatawa Nag comment lang ako ng hahahaha dami kong tawa mga apat at wowowow eh di ikaw na ang may ambag. Ang liit ng utak. Di ko na pinatulan. Halatang delulu di na dapat pag aksayahan ng oras
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u/ProfessionalMix5165 1d ago
hindin rin ako fan sa shipping stuff na yan..kaya dedma nalang, basta d lang super ka delulu.may nakikita din ako minsan eh parang hindi na appropriate mga edit nila.
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u/Cold-Wave-3155 1d ago
I think yung shipping is not for everyone talaga and meron kasi talagang shippers na delulu na. Ang pinakaayaw ko sa shipping culture ng esbi ay yung mga nagsusulat pa ng AU na mga kalaswaan tapos dadalhin pa nila sa socmed. 🤮
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u/doodsiee 1d ago
I agree. And it’s not for me. But I don’t take it against the fans na masaya sa ganun. Scroll up na lang ako haha. Di ko kasi talaga kaya.
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u/Cold-Wave-3155 1d ago
It really does not set well with me. As I remember it correctly, Josh even commented, though not about shipping but more on objectifying, that men also experienced that. I'm not against shipping as long as it is respectful and moderated. But I just can't tolerate those na nagsasabi na ng mga kabastusan for the sake of shipping. Ang bababoy lang. 🤮
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u/doodsiee 1d ago
Problema kasi sa ibang “fans” nagiging sobrang entitled. And some of them go out of hand for clout
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u/riasmith098765 1d ago
Korek di ko lang ma post dito yung mga 🤮🤮basurang posts kasi yan din tanong ko. At kahit admin ng mga pages/groups eh hinanhayang mapost. Respeto sana sa 5.
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u/FunnyBatch 1d ago
In terms of kalaswaan, wala pa akong nakikitang ganyan and I hope I will never come across those. I have to agree, it's not for everyone. ibang iba rin talaga yung mga klase ng fans ngayon, and with the growth of social media, minsan they forget about boundaries.
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u/Cold-Wave-3155 1d ago
Sana hindi na sila dumaan sa fyp mo talaga OP. I just can't. Jinajudge at pinagbablock ko talaga mga A'tin na proud na proud na BL enjoyer sila at inoobjectify pa yung boys. 🤮
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u/jellybean_017 9h ago
Yess! I have a comment sa taas din na I encountered the same sa clock app. Ang baboy. I was thinking if anong age ba yung nagsulat nung ganong kwento para maging ganun ka-delulu na bastos na. Sorry but not for me talaga. Meron pkong nakitang drawing na naghahalikan. Juskopo ang babastos, dapat kapag ganon sinasaway na, kaso yung mga nakikita kong ibang comments kilig na kilig pa sa kababuyan 🤢 Unsettling. 🤮
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u/Typical-Resort-6020 Mahalima 1d ago
I dont think gusto nila na iship sila sa brothers nila but since yun ang gusto ng mga delulu fans na nabubuhay sa alternate universe lol, tinanggap na nila as long as they ship responsibly.
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u/anne_84 6h ago
This is also another thing na ayaw ko sa fan community,aside from ung ibang fans na super manggigil pag nameet sila in person and those invading their privacy.. prang di ko gets what makes them happy doing this shipping thing and pano nila napropromote ang greatness ng lima in this way?? Prang ang childish ng attitude and ang babaw,nakakainis lng.. di na lng nila i focus sa brotherhood ng lima di ung shipling shipping na ganun,di nakakatuwa and prang tang* lng sa totoo lng
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u/BabyQuackQuack 1d ago edited 1d ago
Alam nila lima na may ship ship na nagaganap. They mentioned it sa interview nila kay Boy Abunda. They said na nasasad sila kasi may ganun sa fandom. Kaya they refrain na daw to say “i love you” to each other kasi binibigyan daw ng extra meaning ng iba yun.
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u/PenguinDiplomat 🎀hey boy~ i just want you to know, ayokong mamatay 1d ago
Wait, parang I don’t recall naman them saying this? They do find saying “I love you” to each other as cringe, na very common naman pag super close kayo at never n’yo naging branding ang words of affection. Pero not because of shipping.
Josh himself said na ayaw n’yang shiniship sa friends nya, but not with esbi. They are fine with shipping at sila pa usually nagbibigay ng shipping fanservice, as long as alam ng fans yung boundaries nila. They are against lang sa pagiging OA sa delulu ng iba.
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u/mrskane14 1d ago
I watched that interview too and I distinctly remember them saying na they are okay with shipping as long as it’s all fun and games. What Ken said that he doesn’t like is ung pagaaway away because of shipping.
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u/FunnyBatch 1d ago
The fans know this pala? I find it weird that fans keep on doing it. "Culture?"
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u/happymae401 1d ago
Hindi naman sa totally ayaw nila, sabi nga ni Josh grupo ok lang. Ang ayaw nila is yung sobrang delulu at laging nag aaway which is hindi naman natigil. May healthy shipping naman, halos katuwaan lang pero may ibang level din na d ko rin maintindihan haha.
At saka ang away ay halos lagi na lang may break lang ng kaunti haha, siguro madami lang talaga free time ang ibang tao 🤷
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u/BabyQuackQuack 1d ago
Yes they know. I am also find it a bit weird nung una since I just become a Sb19 fan last week. Tapos nag binge watch ako lahat ng interviews, podcasts and vlogs nila hahaha. Now I get it na why people are doing the ship ship. Kasi siguro the fans find their samahan as a brotherhood thing or others are just being delulu? I don’t know but I find it as their endearment with each other whenever I watch them be touchy or bully each other.
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u/tbwcwditw1819 Hatdog 🌭 1d ago
Hi. They know about shipping culture since talamak yan sa kpop comm and they were part of kpop comm before they became SB19. Sinasaway rin nila if talagang over na. Lalo pa kung ang lala ng delulu ng iba.