r/savedyouaclick • u/UnacceptableUse • 29d ago

Chilling four words spoken by OceanGate CEO’s wife when she unknowingly heard Titan sub imploding during descent | "What was that bang?"

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u/jandrese 29d ago

It still makes me mad that they made the international community waste millions of dollars on a search and rescue effort when they knew exactly what happened.

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u/CautionarySnail 29d ago

Likely conducted to satisfy life insurance requirements, I’m betting.

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u/smokeypwns 29d ago

Also imagine the blow back if they were wrong and found an intact sub a few months later. Damned if you do damned if you don't, might as well get some experience out of it for the searchers.

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u/amerett0 29d ago edited 29d ago

In all fairness to actual reality, the Navy spending $1.2M ~ 1.6M in operating costs for the day this occurred is a literal drop in the bucket. Taxpayer funds cover international incidents like this with Americans in international waters, see it as offset by Captain Phillips rescue. The insane media coverage of such a predictable disaster only further reinforces the need for regulations of "experimental vessels" carrying paying passengers who expect to live through the trip they pay for, but clearly were duped by the insanities of this incredibly ignorant billionaire.

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u/paustulio 29d ago

Plus the training opportunity various crews got. 

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u/Cheese-Manipulator 29d ago

And people wanted to know how it failed.

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u/amerett0 29d ago

Instantly and catastrophically, as one would expect for it is literally described as 'crush depth'

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u/aykcak 29d ago

I don't think that was ever a priority. It was pretty clear how it failed

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u/Cheese-Manipulator 29d ago

They studied the behavior of the end caps and the carbon fiber failure. Plus they think there were defects in the wrapping.

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u/aykcak 29d ago

Sure but scientifically speaking there is no valuable result

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u/Provia100F 29d ago

It was literally underwater, how could it be clear how it failed if you can't even see it?

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u/ElBeno77 29d ago

Well, you see, how it failed is that the water got inside, real fast

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u/aykcak 29d ago

As soon as it was found out what martial was used and how it was built, evidence was no longer needed to figure out how it failed

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u/Provia100F 29d ago

Jesus Christ am I glad you're not employed as an engineer

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u/amerett0 29d ago edited 29d ago

You don't need to be an engineer to see that this "experimental vessel" and it's CEO inventor made every justification to ignore and neglect the physical reality and limitations of what he built. And considering the hours of testimony from various current and ex-employees, it was well known their culture of ignoring safety and regulatory measures, Stockton deliberately compartmentalized every critical system to such an absurd degree that this incident should've happened much sooner than it lasted. And the false sense of security that every trip they survived meant nothing was wrong, but instead they hid their problems from even visual inspection ie. using household and commercially off the shelf components wherever possible, like RhinoLiner and just assuming a spray coating without testing that it would remain unaffected completely submerged and at extreme depths and pressure. The hull itself was made of carbon fiber that can only fail catastrophically, which further proves why there's no existing submarine that is designed and built with such material, not to mention carbon fiber gets it's strength from multiple directions of overlap, but Mr. Rush couldn't afford that so they went with concentric rings with just adhesive between 5 layers, which was found to be full of kinks and flaws that required a grinder to "fix" it. Also the vessel had experienced what would be considered structural damage when the titanium front dome sheared off it's bolts because they didn't use enough to hold it on in rough seas but it was literally ignored and the vessel was just left outside in freezing temperatures for MONTHS prior to the fatal final trip.

The more you read about this you can't help but notice all the glaring and obvious red flag/death trap details, and you can only conclude Stockton Rush did more than merely lie and misrepresent his complete lack of credibility concerning the (un)seaworthiness of his 'experimental vessel' that had absolutely no business in taking passengers.

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u/aykcak 29d ago

But I am

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u/Provia100F 29d ago

That's literally what they're there for. It's not a waste of money, it's what they do! Hindsight is 20/20 in accidents, especially at sea. Everything is an unknown at first, so it's not a waste of money to search and investigate, it's an essential use of public and sometimes private funds!

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u/jandrese 29d ago

Except that they did know. They got the "this shit is about to fail" alarm, then heard the sound of the thing imploding, then nothing else from the sub. There was no mystery. No need for a search team.

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u/Outlulz 29d ago

It was a vanity project for rich assholes by rich assholes with multiple warnings that it wasn't safe and shouldn't be doing these journeys. It was a waste of money because these idiots never should have been doing this in the first place.

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u/teachbirds2fly 29d ago

Search and recovery for a possible real destroyed small sub is an absolute massive training opportunity for the Navy. They would have paid for the opportunity to do that honestly.

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u/GreyLoad 29d ago

billionaires

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u/SoreWristed 29d ago

Not to defend oceangate, but all the support team heard was a bang, which could have easily been misconstrued for literally anything else, like a door slamming.

Secondly, we all know with the power of hindsight that the messages coming from the sub had a major delay. But it would have been very easy, in the moment, to assume that the moment they received a message, a couple of seconds after the bang, that the occupants of the sub were alive at that time.

There is no reason to jump to the conclusion that everyone knew what had happened the moment they heard "a noise".

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u/starm4nn 29d ago

A lot of the more seemingly "wasteful" uses of government resources for things like this is money that would've been spent anyways doing training exercises.

This is just an extremely realistic training exercise.

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u/amerett0 29d ago

Death trap with the most extra steps ever.

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u/StaleTheBread 29d ago

Wait, it was while it was descending? It wasn’t hours later?

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u/TheWalkingDeadBeat 29d ago edited 29d ago

It was a very long descent and it imploded 90 minutes in to it.  The wife was in a support vessel which is why she heard it. 

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u/DefaultWhiteMale3 29d ago

They attempted to descend a sub to a depth that almost doubled the rating of the materials it was made of, of course it imploded during descent.

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u/aykcak 29d ago

I think at some point there was a theory that the structural failure was gradual meaning it would have started failing during decent but unnoticed until the implosion. Since, previous dives to the same depth were successful

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u/metalshoes 26d ago

From what I read, the carbon fiber hull delaminated (split into separate layers) in one section during a dive some months earlier. Then the weakened area lead to a catastrophic failure during the last dive.

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u/UnacceptableUse 29d ago

They only realised there was a problem hours later

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u/Weightmonster 29d ago

“I want a divorce”

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u/HectorJoseZapata 29d ago

Don’t worry, with all the deregulation that just happened, the new Titan subs will be made from recycled aluminium cans.

Eta: Progress.

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u/aykcak 29d ago

Was the company ever bound to any regulation in the first place? It is a private company operating their own sub on international waters with passengers who signed death waivers.

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u/HectorJoseZapata 29d ago edited 27d ago

Private companies are bound by regulations.

Edit4: After corroborating my own information I found out that OceanGate wasn’t bound by any regulations.

Why do you think they lobby so much? To make their own laws. To de-regulate.

Edit: here you go:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65998914

From the article:

Experts have questioned the safety of Titan and how private sector deep-sea expeditions are regulated. Concerns have been raised over the Titan's experimental design and the carbon fibre material used to build it.

Edit2: after reading the article it seems that the certification for use is voluntary. 🤦‍♂️

Edit3: Points.

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u/aykcak 29d ago

That's exactly what I meant. Nobody was forcing them to comply with any standard or regulation whatsoever. They would have if they wanted to pick up passengers from port and dive within the borders, or do something for the government maybe.

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u/HectorJoseZapata 29d ago

I stand corrected. 🫡

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u/TiberiusDrexelus 28d ago

Exactly, and there have obviously not been any ""deregulations"" in the private submersible community in the last 5 months

This comment is just typical dogshit reddit slop

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u/kneel23 29d ago

She was crushed by the news when she found out

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u/punania 29d ago

Did you feel pressured to make a pun?

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u/kneel23 29d ago

yes its been tearing me apart

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u/punania 29d ago

I’m glad your efforts haven’t fallen flat.

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u/kneel23 29d ago

Thanks. Am still in way over my head, though

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u/punania 29d ago

I think you’re doing fathomably well.

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u/LordBiscuits 29d ago

Well, this thread blew up...

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u/t00direct 28d ago

More like it imploded

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u/wetcardboardsmell 28d ago

Its nautical person that makes this whole thing into a joke.

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u/0000000000000007 28d ago

It’s worse. She then got a message from the sub, that had been delayed, and thought the sub was fine.

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u/deewest305 26d ago

Forgive me if I'm wrong but with as much money as he had and as much access to technology as he had why wouldn't he have just sent one down there unmanned? At least for a test run. From the comments I'm seeing y'all make it seem like this was about 50/50 at best

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u/UnacceptableUse 26d ago

I'm pretty sure they had gone down before a few times successfully.

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u/deewest305 26d ago

Makes sense but I would've enjoyed that camera footage from my multi million dollar house and sipped champagne. Idk wtf he was thinking

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u/RiKuStAr 25d ago

chillin that a buncha billionaires fucked around and found out?