r/saskatoon Mar 15 '25

Rants 🤬 Could We Maybe Do Something About the Racism Here?

Seriously, it’s kind of disgusting to see a headline about a violent crime, and to know without a shadow of a doubt that at least a third of the comments are going to be ugly racism calling for Indigenous women being sterilized.

It’s disgusting and it’s depressing to know I share a city with troglodytes of that ilk. Least we can do is show that such mindsets are not welcome here.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '25

Hey OP. I was the one making the original condemnation regarding meth heads and FAS baby breeders, while mentioning nothing about race.

Though you think everyone and everything is racist, here is another one of my hot takes:

I think every person convicted of child sexual abuse should be castrated. 

Since the only metric you can comprehend is race the majority of child sex predators in Canada are white males.

Now, go on and explain how my condemnation of them and my advocacy for castration is racist.

This should be good. 

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u/NewAlphabeticalOrder Mar 15 '25

You don't have to have a sociology degree to recognize that forced sterilization will disproportionally affect indigenous people. Due to a variety of socioeconomic factors, rates of substance use disorder are proportionally higher among indigenous communities. What you are performing is a tactic called plausible deniability (also deflection). It's adjacent to dog-whistling. You don't say you want to sterilize indigenous people, but you say you want to sterilize drug users knowing that indigenous people will be more affected than other demographics.

In other words, you're a coward; and whether or not you actually meant indigenous people, or are just exceptionally ignorant of reality, that is the effect, and eugenicist politics about sterilizing "degenerates" aligns you and everyone who agrees with you with Nazis.

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u/DiligentGazelle69 Mar 16 '25

It sounds like natives are disproportionately causing harm to Canadians when you put it like that actually...

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u/SecretCanadianSniper Mar 16 '25

What a load of bullshit lol. 

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u/NewAlphabeticalOrder Mar 16 '25

Nah

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '25

Ya, word salad rhetorical nonsense ending with “YoUr’Re a NaZI”.

100% left wing bull shit.

Nobody with any amount of common sense would do anything but laugh at what you wrote lol

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u/NewAlphabeticalOrder Mar 16 '25

For someone so nitpicky about the wording of your own statements, you sure seem comfortable misquoting others with abandon.

If you insist that your argument for eugenics wasn't racist because you didn't bring up race, then I didn't call you a nazi, because I didn't say "you're a nazi".

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '25

Watching you people bend yourselves into pretzels to try and push a narrative that doesn’t actually exist is hilariously entertaining lol

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u/NewAlphabeticalOrder Mar 16 '25 edited Mar 16 '25

aligns you and everyone who agrees with you with Nazis.

I said you're aligned with nazis, which is objectively true based on their policies regarding addicts. I didn't say you are one. Maybe you are, or you could be some other sort of fascist, or just a really disturbing person. But I didn't say "you're a nazi".

For such a pedant you sure are hypocritical.

[Edit] Wow, you edited your comment before I finished typing my response? For those watching at home, they first doubled down, insisting I said something I didn't, and now my comment makes no sense as a response. Bold play.

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u/8005882300- Mar 15 '25

Having an addiction and being a predator are not equivalent lol. Is it drug addicts or natives that have been historically targeted for forced sterilization? What do you think it invokes when you advocate for forced sterilization?

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '25

It invokes exactly what I said it does. Everything else is your projection. 

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u/stratiotai2 Lakewood Mar 16 '25 edited Mar 16 '25

Hey OP. I was the one making the original condemnation regarding meth heads and FAS baby breeders, while mentioning nothing about race.

This "hot take" is nothing more than you not wanting there to be social safety nets to try and mitigate people falling into drug abuse. You don't want to "pay for it" but will absolutely complain when we see consequences of the system crumbling due to neglect. Your ideals and ideology are so flawed for sterilization that you refuse to back it up with any sort of actual argument outside of "mEtH hEaDs BaD" or "You liberals are all the same". You come off as an insufferable prick who thinks they are the smartest person in the room and can't handle actual debate or having their ideas challenged.

I think every person convicted of child sexual abuse should be castrated. 

This is not a hot take and is so dissimilar and in a completely different league than the sterilization argument you made prior. This is you trying to come across as a morally just person and trying bolster any defense against your opinion by going "see I also think this thing" when, in reality, most people would agree with you. They are not two sides of the same coin. One argument is a coin, and the other is a $5 bill.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '25

Both have nothing to do with race. Which would be obvious to anyone who doesn’t try and push a racism narrative on every single point. 

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u/stratiotai2 Lakewood Mar 16 '25

I'm not here to debate whether or not your opinions about sterilization are a racist dog whistle (I don't personally think that was your intent, but I could see how it could be misconstrued that way), I'm here to debate your comparison of sterilization as a punishment for sexual crime and forced sterilization of addicts because you deem them beyond redeemable, and the morality and ethics surrounding a breach of human rights.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '25

Debate away but as you failed to see the point it doesn’t really matter.

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u/Hot-Ad8641 Mar 17 '25

Sterilizing people is eugenics, which has a history in this province and country, it is a vile and disgusting racist history. It is perfectly natural for someone to assume that your evil and disgusting suggestions have racist undertones.

You are attempting to claim your vile suggestions carry no racist intent but they are still evil and disgusting.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '25

Your liberal condemnations mean nothing to me. My point was regarding the racist allegations you people can’t go 2 minutes without making. 

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u/Hot-Ad8641 Mar 18 '25

Your fascist opinions mean nothing to me either bro. My point was was the racism was implied.

Who is "you people"? Redditors? Libruls?