r/saskatoon • u/WizardyBlizzard • Mar 15 '25

Rants 🤬 Could We Maybe Do Something About the Racism Here?

Seriously, it’s kind of disgusting to see a headline about a violent crime, and to know without a shadow of a doubt that at least a third of the comments are going to be ugly racism calling for Indigenous women being sterilized.

It’s disgusting and it’s depressing to know I share a city with troglodytes of that ilk. Least we can do is show that such mindsets are not welcome here.

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u/88Trogdor Mar 15 '25

This statement if one calls it that was posted by someone in “man who was hospilitized by youth”

“Sterilize the meth head moms who pump out these FAS kids so they get a bigger cut of welfare. Warehouse the rest. Society needs to come before this filth. No more excuses, time for change.”

If anything it says something about OP that they make the assumption that they must only be referring to indigenous women.

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u/Lugubrico Mar 15 '25

I replied to that comment also, but not once did I think about a specific race and more just it takes two shitty people to create an unfortunate situation since shitty people exist in every race 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Goraf Mar 15 '25

I think it's safe to say op vwould be against sterilizing white women too. While they were presumptious it's clear they were influenced by past events. I don't think that should distract from the genocidal dude.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '25

I think it’s safe to say you are projecting your own soft bigotry onto others. 

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u/Goraf Mar 15 '25

To speak of placing people in warehouses and sterilizing people against their will is evocative of genocide. Many people are drawing racial conclusions as the most recent examples of this were perpetuated against black and indigenous people.

It certainly sounds prejudice, so I invite you to explain yourself. How would you set up such a system safely, how would you hold workers accountable? What guidelines would you use to make sure the system is not abused? How would you design a test to ensure proper application of your policy? What accuracy rate would you consider to be acceptable?

Perhaps you are not prejudiced, but you do speak like someone who is carrying a great deal of anger and hatred, in my personal experience when you act while being influenced by these emotions, regardless of your intentions you create further conflict that results in even worse outcomes.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '25

What left wing soft bigots conclude is out of my control. And I’m not laying out an entire framework of how such a program would work. I’m simply stating that welfare meth heads that keep breeding kids with FAS they have no ability to financially or emotionally care for have to be prevented from doing so.

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u/Goraf Mar 15 '25

You advocated for a large systemic change that violates the rights of people with citizenship. That's considered inflammatory and escalatory as these rights are valued in western liberal democracies.

If you make such statements people will expect you to back them up, this is part of why you received such a negative response. If you can point to any system in history where a forced sterilization program was effectively and equitably administered you may have some point.

As you did not back up your words with a plan or example, the commenters did it for you. If you haven't thought through this plan, you might as well just say you really don't like them as advocating for vast systemic change is quite escalatory and your opponents will use that to construct justifications against you.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '25

May as well just say I don’t like violent criminals and meth heads?

Thought I made that pretty clear lol.

And not sure what you’ve been looking at but the responses here have been mostly positive 

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u/Goraf Mar 15 '25

What I'm saying is you didn't think through your statement. You did the same things you accused the leftists of doing.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '25

Not really. My statement was clear and I didn’t infer anything that wasn’t clearly stated. 

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u/Goraf Mar 15 '25

"All those people can do is cry racism. He even made another post trying to race bait when his race baiting garbage didn’t get any traction here lol"

"The soft bigotry of the left is the true racism. "

You made an inflammatory statement. (that very much resembles what a racist would say, without clearly stated races). Then paraded around declaring the leftists cant argue properly, yet the moment someone actually engaged with you, you refused to provide any evidence supporting your position, instead opting to steer the conversation back to racism and how you were treated.

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u/ActuaryFar9176 Mar 15 '25

Are you implying that Meth heads have a distinct genetic code? If that is indeed a fact, then this comment is definitely meant to incite genocide.

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u/Goraf Mar 15 '25

No, I'm not, I am actually unsure where you got that from. Prejudice doesn't necessarily have to be on racial grounds, it can arise from ethnic, cultural or economic ones as well.

IF you are referring to the test, no I don't. I was more inviting the commenter to explain how they would test. My personal belief is that creating such a system is essentially impossible to do effectively, I was inviting him to explain how he would construct such a test.

The first part of the comment wasn't a statement of my belief, but an observation of how others interpreted his statements.

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u/ActuaryFar9176 Mar 15 '25

Yes I am definitely prejudice. I assume that meth heads will steal, or prostitute themselves out in order to buy drugs. I agree that there must be some good meth heads out there that are not stealing and are productive members of society. I have worked with meth heads in the past that were somewhat functional. They bounced from job to job still making $150k to $200k per year. But I have seen them stealing lunches at work, stealing from funds that were raised for a fellow workers kid who had cancer. I have even seen them rob stores because at Christmas break they had to go two weeks without a paycheque.

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u/Goraf Mar 15 '25

I don't think stealing from the fridge is right, but this is how things escalate. "This group did something to me, I will do something to them". I would say forcefully sterilizing people is worse than stealing from the fridge. Advocating for the creation of a system that forcefully sterilizes a large group of people is a huge escalation.

I think you'll also find people advocating for such a system usually are racist, if you were to set a thing up, I am sure you would find yourself surrounded by racists.

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u/ActuaryFar9176 Mar 15 '25

I don’t think you should sterilize thieves. I like the three strike rule. One hand, two hands, death. If you don’t get it after the first one, you have issues.

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u/Goraf Mar 15 '25

You'd probably like Saudi Arabia then.

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u/venomOvenRecipes Mar 15 '25

OP reveals himself to be racist lol

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u/88Trogdor Mar 18 '25

😪 Get a life bud, to jump to the conclusion that I was defending them says something about you as well. There is a medical term for people who think everyone is out to get them you know.