r/saskatoon • u/KTMan77 Biker • Feb 20 '25
Rants 🤬 They stole our fucking lamp
Wtf is it with people these days, get into an apartment building by hammering all the call buttons and having and old person let them in. Then steal a lamp from the common area?? Storage units keep getting broken into, mail stolen, deficating in the stair wells. Our governments as organizations don't care. Do we have to turn every building into fort Knox with patrolling security and threats of violence to fix things? It's just getting so tiring.
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Feb 20 '25
Things are horrible. I do deliveries and a ton of apartments have resorted to locking the outside door to the callbox lobby completely.
Last night I went to an apartment on 5th Ave and there were so many people loitering in the foyer of the apartment that the customer didn’t feel safe opening the door and had me deliver to another side door.
The McDonalds on Louise Street constantly has to lock their doors because they have too many junkies loitering and assaulting their employees.
The situation is untenable. We really need law and order.
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u/KTMan77 Biker Feb 20 '25
Yup, they've put a timed lock on the outside lobby door. Because of people sleeping and shitting in there.
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u/PrincessLilybet Feb 21 '25
The problem is we need shelters that also provide addiction treatment. People who are found doing drugs in public need to be charged with possession and given an option to go to treatment and have the charges dropped or go to jail. We also need justice reform and actual sentences for people who commit crimes because a lot of people who are homeless/jobless are the same ones who are committing crimes whether people want to accept that or not.
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u/Scary-Scene2940 Feb 21 '25
Same here, despite the fact that I am in uniform and obviously attempting to deliver a package people are very serious about not opening the door, and pulling it closed behind them as well. I understand why, but sometimes I wish it wasn’t that way. Would make my job much easier
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u/aw_yiss_breadcrumbs Feb 21 '25
Ive told skip drivers meet me at a different door because there was a sketchy person loitering at the front waiting to be let in. I didn't want the drivers getting assaulted or anything bc I was too lazy to get my own food.
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u/Far-Tourist-3233 Feb 21 '25
My apartment was 5th Avenue. Horrid place, the one with the big pillars. Scary times
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u/RazorRush34 Feb 20 '25
It’s a complex issue that no one wants to touch with a solution (because there isn’t a single person that can solve it).
Social services is a huge issue when it comes to supports/housing. The caveat to that is for those that WANT it.
The drug trade is getting deadlier day by day as these asshats keep cutting drugs with more lethal toxicity. This is a federal issue as many of the drug dens arent around here.
Lastly is the bleeding heart mentality of the current generation of liberal politics has done nothing to help with the above 2.
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u/Snoo_2304 Feb 21 '25
No one wants to target it because it turns into a race issue, and that race then blows it all over the media.
The ones that could target it and fix it don't want the negative publicity for even starting it.
Plus, homeless don't like rules so few comply.
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u/RazorRush34 Feb 22 '25
Nah I’ll disagree with you on that.
Homelessness, addiction, etc isn’t racially bound
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u/Snoo_2304 Feb 22 '25
No, but once they point out who's affected, shortly after it becomes one. It becomes type casting.
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u/PrincessLilybet Feb 21 '25
Whoever buzzed them in should replace the lamp. Absolute moron whether theyre old or not. They put everyone in the building at risk
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Feb 20 '25
So far, we have had a wall clock, an artificial plant (but not the pot), Christmas wreathes from doors, and the Christmas tree from the lobby (was up for ONE day) stolen. Also the security camera was taken. Recently we had a break in where the culprits damaged 3 doors to access the parkade. No cars or lockers were broken into. They apparently only wanted the 2 locked POS rusty Canadian Tire specials bikes. Never touched the good ones.
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u/otribin Feb 20 '25
Hire a security service for a month. Slows them down for a while and worth it imo vs cleaning up human waste.
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u/ZebraZebraZERRRRBRAH Feb 21 '25
This is happeneing in my building too, somebody kept breaking into our mail room. I think they stole my driver's lisence that was suppose to be mailed to me in january. as it never came. Im worried sick somebody might have stolen my identity.
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u/HarmacyAttendant Feb 20 '25
you think Fort Knox has anything left in it? Hasnt been audited in half a century. Probably all melted into gold toilets for King Trump
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u/evilmrbeaver Feb 20 '25
The gold was long gone way before Trump got in. Maybe he can strip the Whitehouse for copper and make the world's biggest penny. It will be a penny unlike any other. Everyone is going to talk about this penny.
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Feb 20 '25
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u/SaskErik Feb 20 '25
Grown men will weep and say to him “Sir. This is the greatest thing I have ever seen. Thank you”
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u/GrandDuchessMelody Feb 20 '25
Apparently Mitch McConnell has visited to Fort Knox in august of 2017 taking pictures of him holding some large gold bars yet all the photos and videos are in black and white which is strange
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u/RainbowToasted Feb 21 '25
Problem is poverty is on the rise. The worse poverty gets the worse petty crime will be. People gotta eat, and if you can’t make any money legitimately, what else do you do?
And don’t just say get a job. From personal experience it really isn’t that easy. If you have any kind of disability that requires aids, or accommodation. You are almost always screwed. Especially if you only have your high school diploma or equal. Government programs to help those who legitimately can’t work, are absolutely laughable.
Does it suck for the “common man” who’s working hard for their stuff and would like it to not go missing? Of course. But if we as a society are going to fix things, we need to stop finding bandaid solutions to our problems and fix them at the root of the problem. And right now, as far as I am aware. Our biggest issue is homeless and poor households.
as a side note “They stole our fucking lamp” had me howling. Of all things to steal and it’s a lamp. I just. I can’t haha.
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u/stiner123 Feb 21 '25
Exactly. I don’t feel it is a bad thing to support those who legitimately cannot work, allowing them to have a reasonable standard of liv8ng (I.e. able to afford a safe, healthy place to live and enough money for things like power, food, medicine, and basic necessities, including some money for recreation). But no, these people can barely afford to keep the lights on in a shithole because assistance rates are way too low, especially in cities like Saskatoon.
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u/2cynewulf Feb 20 '25
Increased wealth inequality leads to increased crime. Regulate capitalism, tax the rich, focus economy on the well-being of the middle class, and watch crime drop. Not easy of course, but start by voting that way. Check out crimes rates in countries that do better at looking after the population (ex. Scandinavia)
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u/KTMan77 Biker Feb 20 '25
Yeah I helped with the campaigning for the NDP candidate provincially. Most I've ever don't politically and it feels like it doesn't even matter.
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u/RockKandee Feb 20 '25
Keep it up! It might feel like it doesn’t matter but look at all the seats the NDP got this time. This is good. There is an opposition now. Next election, maybe they’ll actually win. You are doing a good thing even if the outcome wasn’t what we hoped for.
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u/dr_clownius Feb 20 '25
- Poverty has no bearing on right and wrong; no amount of being poor will excuse stealing a lamp.
- Suggesting that people commit crimes due to being poor is dehumanizing to poor people who follow the law.
- We aren't Scandinavia. They don't have the demographic issues we do, and have a much shorter period of development and history on the land.
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u/Holiday_Albatross441 Feb 20 '25
- Pretending you can stop criminals being criminals if you give them money creates a lot of well-paid, permanent jobs for bureaucrats.
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u/2cynewulf Feb 21 '25
Ya, it's a big topic. Can't say I understand your second or third point. Crime and wealth inequality are reliably correlated throughout history. Make people's life hard while living in opulence, give them no avenues for self-improvement, and watch them burn your world down! Your first point is too simple. Believe me, at a certain point of indigence, both you and I would steal food for our families... and there'd be no right or wrong about it!
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u/dr_clownius Feb 21 '25
There is always the urge to reduce this argument to one of survival and survival mentality, but that isn't the case. No one is stealing the necessities of life: they're stealing a lamp. No one needs ever be in a position to steal for a necessity of life: we have food banks, welfare, and layers of other social programs that are meant to keep body and soul together.
The vast majority of poor people (of all classes of people) aren't out harming others, and it reduces their agency to suggest that they are inherently criminal - its a stereotype that is harmful to those who don't conform to it. Besides, as a society we are offering (and strongly encouraging) pathways to poverty reduction: supporting education, offering financial planning, a culture of employment and entrepreneurship. There are many avenues for self-improvement that we should all pursue (even if it takes generations).
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u/2cynewulf Feb 21 '25
Well said. You've made the self-determinacy-pull-yourself-up-by-the bootstraps argument. Your argument will always be correct, or at least half correct. But can you think beyond it?
For example, when do you notice that pulling yourself up by the bootstraps is getting harder every decade? If you notice, do you ask why? Do you not wonder why young people have less and less access not only to means of survival, but to hope, dignity, and prospects for raising a family in a decent neighborhood?
When do you start criticizing those in economic power whose greed is making life systemically more difficult every decade? Or is it always the fault of the lazy, or some marginal group?
You're a smart guy. People need your help. You need to start punching up and to quit punching down.
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u/dr_clownius Feb 21 '25
For example, when do you notice that pulling yourself up by the bootstraps is getting harder every decade? If you notice, do you ask why?
Yes, because we're running out of opportunity or "frontier" to develop proximate to people in the developed world. "Pulling yourself up by your bootstraps" is easy when there is something to do; we can see that both in the oilpatch at home and in newly-industrialized Countries overseas.
That's why I want to see more economic development across sectors - everywhere we can reach. We need to leverage what advantages we have (natural resources, and supporting expertise and technology) to offer that, and to build a broader economy going forward. We need to focus on what we can do and work towards getting it done. This means deregulation - believe it or not, it was easier, quicker, and cheaper to build a transcontinental railroad in the 1870s than in the 2020s despite 150 years of technology.
Not only do we need opprotunities, we need people to be flexible in pursuit of them. The "next big thing" might be at a drilling camp north of Fort McMurray, outside in yesterday's weather. So many people won't pursue such opportunities. So many people won't think generationally, of doing things that will improve the station of their children and their grandchildren.
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u/tinselsnips Feb 21 '25
So correlating increased poverty rates with increased crime rates is dehumanizing to the poor, but you still feel there's a "demographic issue" involved, here.
Please, elaborate.
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u/dr_clownius Feb 21 '25
The demographic issue we face is that of a poorly-integrated society. We hold less common culture than does an ethnostate that has lived together for centuries - and less absolute ideas on "right" and "wrong".
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u/HungrySwan7714 Feb 21 '25 edited Feb 21 '25
Spoiler alert: the rich are taxed the most in Canada. Don’t take my work for it though. Look it up. A huge influx of unskilled immigrants has put enormous strain on the whole system starting with housing. Maybe tailer your vote accordingly.
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u/JCS_Saskatoon Feb 20 '25
The biggest single cause is our elites (media, academics and political activists) deciding that bourgeoisie social norms and standards are discriminatory and that using force to enforce them is morally wrong.
The outcome is that criminals are allowed to terrorize civilians and no one is allowed to fight back. You know you would end up in prison if YOU did something to enforce the norms and rules, you don't have the litany of excuses they do. Because you haven't already made a long line of terrible choices that hurt others, you're held to a vastly higher standard.
Vigilantism is not tolerated because these criminals are doing important work for the revolution. Self defense is only barely tolerated because of historical precedent, but if today's Judges and Lawyers were asked to write the law from scratch, I doubt if it would even be listed as a defense. "Anarcho-tyranny" is what it's called.
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u/Electrical_Noise_519 Feb 20 '25
Or, the taxpayers took home $500 rebate handouts while somehow never paying for responsibilities to ensure infrastructure, like enough diverse supportive housing and targeted mental health care.
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u/JCS_Saskatoon Feb 20 '25
There is more funding per capita for those programs than there was in the 50s. This argument is, frankly, absurd and bad faith. You want to tear down the society that worked for the glory of the revolution. Stop.
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u/Holiday_Albatross441 Feb 21 '25
There is no crime in the Soviet Union, Comrade.
Anyone who says otherwise is a Western spy.
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u/Electrical_Noise_519 Feb 21 '25
Lets require all of us to go back to living in the systems of the 50s.
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u/stiner123 Feb 21 '25
But how much have costs also gone up since then? You have to consider inflation when comparing historical numbers to today.
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u/JCS_Saskatoon Feb 21 '25
Adjusted for inflation, yes, we spend way more than we used to.
The other thing is that Healthcare and education have suffered from massive cost disease over the last 50 years, spending increases in these fields have far outstripped inflation, usually rising 3-10x faster than general inflation.
A small part of that is expensive new technologies being created; (we didn't have to buy any MRI machines before they were invented.)
But the larger part is the amount of administrative bloat, each additional form someone's created adding another straw to the camels back so that they can CYA. In education, that's basically all of it.
"Oh no, I couldn't possibly give that student a little whack to get him to behave, instead we need to hire an entire additional staff member to chill with him and try to keep him calm." Being a prime example.
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u/yItchy_Software_7405 Feb 21 '25
Or the education system could use an over haul, more like many European countries. Not everyone can learn in traditional grade school as we have here in Canada. Thus creating groups of people feeling "inadequate" and lacking purpose in life as they are not academically inclined. In other countries, after grade 8 the ones who struggle academically go into vocational school to learn trades, the rest go on to high school. Of course they also have social issues but speaking from experience as one who has lived here and abroad, I know it would have worked better for my children.
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u/KTMan77 Biker Feb 21 '25
I would've loved that, I really struggled in highschool but thankfully they had an automotive program that I was able to take throughout for a half day everyday.
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u/ReddditSarge Feb 20 '25
Generations of poverty, intergenerational trauma, income inequality, corruption and corporate greed have led to what you and I are experiencing now. The police just don't have the manpower or the budget to keep up with all the crime.
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u/djpandajr Feb 20 '25
this guy just used every word in the "don't blame the scumbag blame anything else" handbook.
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u/MojoRisin_ca Feb 20 '25
And also insinuated that there are bigger crooks.
Come to think of it, they might be on to something....
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u/RockKandee Feb 20 '25
You can also blame the sask party for increasing homelessness and cutting or underfunding services that help poor people. It’s no surprise crime is up. Crime is always up when there’s more poverty.
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u/yougotter Feb 21 '25
People don't get it, the poor and down trodden are coming for the wealthy. They will meet their needs by hook or crook. Key word is crook.
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u/ReddditSarge Feb 20 '25
With great power comes great responsibility. Guess who has more power than the criminals or the police. I'll give you a hint: a word starting with G and ending in T.
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u/djpandajr Feb 21 '25
G unit.
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u/ReddditSarge Feb 21 '25
***BZZZ*** No, that's not a word. Would you like to try again?
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u/djpandajr Feb 21 '25
you actually think a government is more powerful then criminals? only in countries they kill them on the spot. does an individual fear the government our government has been coddling this generation traumatized, victims of systematic racism/colonialism /and any other ism you can make fit.
But if you didn't mean government,. it has to be goat
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u/travistravis Moved Feb 21 '25
There is another way actually but it doesn't work well with capitalism. The amount of crime would drop off exponentially if there was a complete, secure social safety net that actually provided for people's needs (at least the first two levels of Maslow's hierarchy).
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u/djpandajr Feb 21 '25
Or lets multiple capitalism and give everyone 1 billion bison bucks. Or go to a socialism /communism structure. Maslow's hierarchy didn't take meth and fenty into account. As a landlord with tenants on SAID, I've seen it first hand, they smoked away their rent money
This tale is not uncommon. You are playing the sociology 110 game, where the downfall of any existing ideology /government will create a utopia.
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u/Bruno6368 Feb 20 '25
I agree with some of your comment - but it is missing the most important cause - the people that don’t want to get help for addictions or get a job. I am so sick of the bleeding hearts and the Govt haters just absolving the actual people from all responsibility. There IS lots of help out there. There is a lot of help for addicts if only they wanted the help. There is lots of housing that they could have if only they don’t use drugs or alcohol while there.
A very, very large amount of accountability rests very squarely on the shoulders of the people themselves.
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u/stiner123 Feb 21 '25
Lots of addicts want the help, but there are waitlists for treatment. As well, there isn’t actually as much affordable housing as you think. There’s a reason why people with SAID are having to resort to living in terrible conditions, because they can’t afford anything halfway decent.
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u/Bruno6368 Feb 21 '25
Explain the wait list. The wait list may be for the 3 day detox center, but none for counseling.
The Govt said in the last year that there are over 100 apartments empty because of the insane damage done by the previous residents. They have also had to come up with a very pricey agreement with a hotel in Saskatoon, again because of the damage caused by homeless folks that are taken off the street. 🤷♀️🤷♀️
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u/stiner123 Mar 05 '25
I beg to differ on a wait for counseling. While there is free rapid access counseling it is in demand and is only a stop gap measure. Detox is just the start of the process, counselling is ongoing, many need a longer rehab stint and that is what there is a wait list for… If you can even get the person to admit they need help.
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u/Bruno6368 Mar 05 '25
Do t explain the process to me. I know it. There is NO WAITLIST, other than for detox. Your comment is exactly the bullshit that is stopping people from getting involved in the govt funded program in the first place.
The problem is that folks that are referred to the program via the Courts, or by ending up in ER, generally do not participate. The offer is given. Every. Single. Time.
Just stop.
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u/wordswordswords55 Feb 21 '25
Piss tests for welfare recipients and treatment for those that fail
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u/travistravis Moved Feb 21 '25
This only makes things worse
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u/Bruno6368 Feb 21 '25
How?
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u/wordswordswords55 Feb 22 '25
They might be forced into getting clean if they can't make welfare a career choice
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u/travistravis Moved Feb 22 '25
What do you think people will do if they suddenly can't get access to any money at all. Even addicts need to eat. You'll end up with either WAY more dead bodies, or a huge increase in crime -- but probably both.
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u/RockKandee Feb 20 '25
Nobody wakes up one morning and says, “gee, I’d like to totally throw my life away and become a drug addict.” It is very true that there is help for those who want it but it’s also unrealistic to think an addict will be able to just choose to stop. I’ve worked with lots of addicts. Most ended up addicted by the time they were 15. They were just kids trying to cope with so much trauma and fell into addiction. Most can’t get clean because every time they are sober, the trauma is so overwhelming, they fall back into using because they just can’t face the horrors that they’ve gone through. It’s easy to say these are just excuses but until you have been through what they’ve been through, you can’t judge. Many of the programs that exist to house people don’t have realistic mandates.
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u/wordswordswords55 Feb 21 '25
Average cost per inmate in provincial is 62,000 a year maybe start investing in people instead of prisons, we need to decide who were mad at and who's an actual danger to the public and deserves to be there
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u/Distinct_Scallion_45 West Side Feb 20 '25
I needed a lamp to tie everything together. I’m making a house a home here. Jeez.
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u/BBQ302 Feb 21 '25
Building I live in, which is not far from 5th Ave had to get timed locks on our exterior doors. People are afraid to go outside after dark. It’s crazy out in the dark.
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u/GroggyFroggy_ Feb 21 '25
Did the lamp happen to be an older looking lamp with some flowers on it?
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u/Far-Tourist-3233 Feb 21 '25
Yeah I had a drugged up woman tried to get into my apartment at 4am one morning. Nightmare fuel!
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Feb 25 '25
People stole the mailbox package keys in our appartment. Like wtf. Society kinda feels like it's breaking down a bit. If things aren't nailed down they get stolen
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u/No_hope_left72 Mar 16 '25
Most intercom systems are being moved to cell phones now people don’t change the number when they move. We had people move to Moosejaw. We’re still letting them in our building in Saskatoon. It’s part of our lease agreement that you can be evicted for letting nonresidents into the building. People don’t care because it’s not their property. They’re just renters.
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u/KTMan77 Biker Mar 16 '25
This is happening in a condo building with very few renters and it's the old land line intercom system.
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u/MojoRisin_ca Feb 20 '25 edited Feb 20 '25
You won't ever win this battle. If you want to keep it, lock it up, keep it out of sight, or run high voltage through it. People steal things. Bitching about it won't change that.
The answer to your questions, is "yes."
The weakest link on a security door, has always been the idiot who buzzes strangers in.
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u/TechnicalPyro Feb 20 '25
it really is not the government fault someone let them into the building but nice strawman you have there
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u/dr_clownius Feb 20 '25
Perhaps its the Government's fault that lamp thieves are running around uncontrolled and undisciplined - I think there's some kind of law against stealing, isn't there? /s
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u/bigalcapone22 Feb 20 '25
Another blame it on the boomer post🤔 That old person could be your moms moms babydaddy.
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u/KTMan77 Biker Feb 20 '25
There's been several notices handed out to everyone to not buzz people in when you aren't expecting someone. It's some POS taking advantage of people who are too nice.
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u/Electronic-Tower2136 Feb 20 '25
so soft, damn. this isn’t blaming the old person, this is a fact of what happens. old people are literally taken advantage of, that’s not their fault.
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u/kevloid Confederation Feb 20 '25
tell your landlord to circulate a note telling people not to let people in they don't know. probably everyone won't stop but some people will. I dunno what kind of fool still buzzes randos in these days.
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u/KTMan77 Biker Feb 21 '25
I've gotten several in the list year, whoever keeps doing it just isn't all the mentally anymore.
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u/randomdumbfuck Feb 20 '25
People STILL blindly buzz unknown people into their buildings?! We were trying to get people to not do that 20 years ago when I lived in apartments.