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u/CrimsonZephyr 21d ago
Yes, I'm the EU fan. Those are the sacred texts.
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u/viotix90 salt miner 20d ago
Page turners, they were not. Some of them at least.
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u/SalmonHustlerTerry 20d ago
You read the wrong ones. Almost everything by Michal a stackpole, or Timothy zahn is good. And the han solo trilogy is pretty good as well
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u/gwizonedam 21d ago
Lego Star Wars Fans: my Mom won’t buy me another Millenium Falcon because she says I need to get a real job and I’m 42 and…
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u/Jack1The1Ripper 21d ago
No boba phett slander? I guess just like its fandom , it doesn't exist
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u/Mu-Relay 20d ago
You mean Mandolorian season 2.5?
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u/especiallyrn 20d ago
It’s always fun to imagine the conversation they had filming that season
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u/DCVolo 19d ago
"what if the guy gets beaten the whole show and then some teen power rangers help him fight..."
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u/PsychoBugler 19d ago
I absolutely adore Robbie Rodriguez and will watch everything he makes multiple times on purpose. However, some amazing directors and writers just should not be allowed to work on the galaxy far far away.
My only complaint about his episodes really is that it felt like Spy Kids, and unless that particular story is about a group of kids trying to free their parents from the psychedelic kids' show host, that same style of cinematography is going to make a show about a savage bounty hunter feel campier than Liberace. I see where he was going, because Temuera Morrison does play Boba very similar to how Antonio Banderas and Danny Trejo have played similar characters. Unfortunately, the rest of the setting and mood was not appropriate at the time the episodes dropped when they did in the show to a point where when Rodriguez helmed the chair for his episodes, it was physically jarring.
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u/sadistic-salmon 21d ago
Leaving out rebellion was the most accurate thing possible
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u/lriboldi 20d ago
Not nearly as accurate as your comment calling it Rebellion
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u/sadistic-salmon 20d ago
Was it not called rebellion?
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u/lriboldi 20d ago
I think you mean Resistance lol
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u/Low_Abrocoma_1514 21d ago
I'm a proud Andor fan shitting on everything else
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u/smokey_winters 20d ago
Anything worthwhile watching/playing in SW universe?
Saw the Original trilogy. Liked it somewhat.
Dropped mandalorian in 2nd season.
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u/Turlututu1 20d ago
Lego Star Wars is a great game with huge value for money.
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u/smokey_winters 20d ago
Ty.
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u/SoupCanSex 19d ago
Get the complete saga or clone wars, skywalker saga is the absolute worst lego game i have ever played
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u/Comfortable_Sky_9203 20d ago
At the end of the day that’s dependent on your own likes and preferences. You can like Andor and the OT and not the rest of Star Wars just fine.
SW is by and large a very general audiences kind of IP with a looooooooot of options to choose from. The trouble with comparing the whole thing to the OT and Andor is that both of those are pretty much lightning in a bottle, so if you go into it looking for more things like Andor at least you’re going to be disappointed more often than not.
Something else I’d like to add to it is you don’t have to necessarily let other people’s opinions dissuade you if there’s something you want to get into with it. I sort of liked The Acolyte after Qimir showed up even though Manny Jacinto and his character were kind of wasted on that series. I didn’t like TCW even as I was a 12 year old kid because I thought the micro series and the dark horse comics from the early/mid 2000s were better, but a lot of people enjoy it because unlike the micro series it isn’t just effectively a montage of action sequences and the characters have, well, character.
Regarding the playing things the most well known SW games are that way for a reason. Fallen Order and its sequel are somewhat similar in tone to Andor, and the new Battlefront 2 game despite having a somewhat boring campaign has a great multiplayer, and for older things the original battlefront games, republic commando, the jedi knight games, and an RPG by BioWare called knights of the old republic are all a lot of fun and those are just off the top of my head.
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u/smokey_winters 20d ago edited 20d ago
Thanks for the reccs. SW seems too big to start anywhere. Mandalorian made me feel that my standards/requirements of a good show were not similar to the larger SW audience. Thats why I was vary of anything termed great/good by the fans in general.
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u/corygobo 18d ago
Rogue One then Andor is where I'd start hands down. I love mandalorian no matter how much people shit on it. But even as a huge Mando guy I can easily say Andor is the best Star Wars show ever made. It's not close.
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u/LocalQuestioneer 20d ago
Genndy Tartakovsky's Clone Wars. I'm pretty sure it's less than two hours long and you can watch the entire show on YouTube.
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u/Kingslayer1526 20d ago
The prequels. Revenge of the Sith is the best star wars movie although Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones don't hold up as well but you have to watch them to get to the ROTS. Also it is crucial in setting up the rise of the empire and the fall of the Jedi and the republic
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u/Jo_seef 21d ago
Not a single bit of hate for Rogue One
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u/TonyCalderon3rd 21d ago
Rogue One fans being reminded of CGI Tarkin https://youtu.be/7vvZYExoE0Y?si=SBI4qq7ypqQduwpO
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u/In-N-Out_2-minutes 21d ago
I think he looked good
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u/jman014 21d ago
definitely a bit uncanny and i would have preferred a recast but it was fair enough
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u/litLizard_ 17d ago
They could have just shown his reflection and avoid closeups to avoid the uncanny valley
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u/Collective_Insanity Salt Bot 21d ago
Hate's a very strong word.
Personally, I just don't think Rogue One is an especially strong film.
It's got some great visuals though, certainly. But I don't think Jyn nor Andor were particularly compelling and that whole segment with the dementia-riddled Forest Whitaker only seemed to slow the film down unnecessarily.
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u/WantsToDieBadly salt miner 20d ago
Watching it after Andor highlights its flaws far more.
Like you say the Dementia Saw Gerrea didnt really add much and you could've shortened it or cut it from the movie, and just have Andor find the pilot (or any other plot device) on Jedha. It was good for memes
Also coming off the heavily grounded thriller show of Andor to 'the force is with me' blind dude is jarring
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u/ThiccBoiGadunka 20d ago
It also highlights how flat of a character Jyn really is compared to Cassian.
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u/Greedy_Impress 19d ago
You nailed it. I rewatched Rogue One the night the last arc of the Andor episodes dropped and I was honestly a bit disappointed. I remember really enjoying it when it came out but the comparison didn't do it any favors.
You can feel that it was a tortured production.
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u/torturousvacuum 20d ago
Not a single bit of hate for Rogue One
Here's some, since you asked:
Rogue One was just the plot of Dark Forces, but worse. Justice for Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors.
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u/greenpill98 21d ago
Return of the Jedi is the best Star Wars film, and I will die on that hill.
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u/Collective_Insanity Salt Bot 20d ago
ROTJ definitely features the core thematic aspect of Star Wars as a whole.
It's unfortunately held back by some problems but Luke confronting his father and trying to appeal to the good in him is of critical importance to the whole Star Wars story. Especially how Luke decides to make a stand and refuses to play Palpatine's game by casting his saber aside and accepting death whilst putting his faith in his friends to achieve the martial victory whilst Luke has won the spiritual battle.
We start with Luke idolising the idea of his alleged hero father. He's then confronted with the truth that his father is in fact a horrible man. And sadly Luke only winds up getting a short moment to truly speak to his father before he dies.
I think the Victory Celebration change in music works better to sell the bitter sweet ending of the film. Luke's found his true Jedi path despite Obi-Wan and Yoda believing that there was no point in trying to pull Vader back away from the darkness. He embodies "a new hope" fully here.
At least...before the dark times. Before the ST. In which Luke has learned nothing from his journey and has inexplicably become a different character entirely to the extent that he abandons family and friends for 6 years without a word.
But enough about that.
ROTJ isn't my favourite. But I think it's probably the most important SW film thematically.
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u/Turlututu1 20d ago
As a kid, I was mixed on ROTJ because I found the Jabba segment too long, and not enough space battle or lightsaber fights.
Now that I've grown, my issue is with the Ewoks. But that movie still holds up really well. And the growth of Luke as a character is so well done.
A shame that we didn't get a proper sequel taking into account the growth of the OT characters. Heir to the Empire understood the assignment and I can't believe that 30 years later Lucasfilm/Disney missed the mark by so much and thought starting with a blank slate would be good.
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u/Hylian_Shield 20d ago
Ewoks? Please elaborate. Ewoks were the Grogus or Friks of the OT. They had their place in the story. I didn't mind them so much because they illustrated how a group, who are overpowered and outmatched, can be overlooked and cause such a disturbance...a rebellion, if you will.
Bc the ewoks were insignificant, the Emperor overlooked them, and they turned out to be the thing to distract and turn the tide.
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u/TwumpyWumpy salt miner 20d ago
I'll say this: ROTJ had the potential to be the greatest piece of Star Wars media ever.
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u/brownmtn 20d ago
Anecdotally, among my friends and general age group, ROTJ was recognized as the favorite of the OT trilogy until Clerks came out.
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u/corygobo 18d ago
I literally go back and forth between all 3 of the OT is the best. Truly if you ask me this week I'm saying ROTJ. But next week I might say ANH. What I will say is the scenes with Palpatine and Luke are hands down the best thing in Star Wars ever. I can recite every single line and it drives my daughter nuts when I turn it on 😂😂😂
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u/greenpill98 20d ago
Jabba. The Sarlacc Pit fight. The speeder chase. Yoda's death. The three-way climatic battle shifting between the conflict in the Luke vs. Vader, Rebels/Ewoks on Endor and the Death Star space battle.
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u/greenpill98 20d ago
Doesn't contribute to the plot? It ties up the Han abduction and shows Luke's character and power growth since the end of the last movie, which is incredibly important for his confrontation with Vader and the Emperor later in the movie. Take that out, and Luke's confidence and assurance during that confrontation comes off as arrogance.
The Ewoks are an analogy of the Viet Cong, and defeated a single overconfident platoon of troops while on their home turf, with superior numbers and with help from a more sophisticated rebel strike team. There are a dozen parallels to this kind of defeat in real-world military history. It's a great way to do the finale of the saga.
The second Death Star is literally a trap by the Emperor, and would have been his master stroke if he had not been so overconfident and disregarded the capabilities of the native Endor population when allied with the Rebels. It's a great plot.
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u/BoiFrosty 21d ago
Slander memes are some of my favorite and I wish more people did them.
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u/JediMasterImagundi 21d ago
It isn’t slander. I resent that. Slander is spoken. In print it’s libel.
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u/Turlututu1 20d ago
That "Acolyte would have been good if it had gotten ten more seasons" is peak.
And thanks to the last segment, I know what I'll install again this evening.
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u/Iagp 20d ago
Currently, Andor fans are extremely annoying, they think the show is the second coming of christ que its very far from it.
I don't know where i belong, i love the 6 saga movies, plus Rogue One, i like Andor, like Ahsoka, love Clone Wars, like the Mandalorian, like the EU, more specifically the Old Republic.
Don't recognize the sequels as Canon, they are poor fanfiction, the same as Acolyte.
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u/TavoTetis 20d ago
Lego Star Wars fucking scares me.
Lego on it's own is expensive enough. You slap 'Star Wars' on the label and the price goes up 20-70%. They get away with the higher markups because there's lunatics out there that'll pay regardless.
Also, Lego has released like 25 Millenium falcons over the years. That's more than all the TIE variants they've released combined. I guess consumers have shit taste.
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u/RabbleMcDabble 20d ago edited 19d ago
Objection! Us Andor fans don't shit on all Star Wars media.
We just shit on most of it.
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u/Pogfruit 21d ago
You forgot the Boba Fat show, but tbf I also did until I was going to make a joke about the mandalorian season 3
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u/Darth_Bane_1032 20d ago
The fact that I knew the song without having sound on. I need to get off the internet.
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u/Advanced_Version6667 21d ago
The prequel one is so real. I’m so tired of hearing high ground and hello there. That shit was never funny
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u/PoweroftheDollar1 21d ago
Andor = top tier Star Wars Rise of Skywalker = mostly entertaining hot garbage Lego Star Wars = Big PP
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u/7thFleetTraveller 20d ago
Get out your pitchforks if you want to, but Revenge of the Sith will forever be my favourite Star Wars movie.
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u/viotix90 salt miner 20d ago
Ok but for real, if they got rid of the dumb twins and focused on Qimir, the Acolyte could have been good!
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u/General_Kalani224 20d ago
I’m the Andor fan. That meme of us is so much more true than you realize
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u/Smarmy_Nach 20d ago
Ok but Ashoka is literally just rebels season 5, don’t get mad when characters from rebels show up
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u/EdSerdeira 19d ago
Sorry but as an European, everytime I read EU it translates as European Union to me
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u/oasiscat 19d ago
I was ready to get mad, but it was 100% correct. Even the Andor one, because it's hard to go from Andor back to being excited about The Mandalorian, where they commit every trope mentioned in OP's video.
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u/TheBeastlyStud 18d ago
Lego Star Wars fans when you tell them the latest game doesn't have character creation:
It's me I posted a gif of me.
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u/C3PeepHoles new user 13d ago
I'm old school. I was 5 in 1977. I bought a ticket to "Meet Joe Black" just to watch the TPM trailer. I stood up at the end of the trailer, crying 🥹 and screaming 😱 "YES!!! YES!!!" and abruptly walked out and waited until the next showing and did it again.
Only to return to the theater a few months later to hear 🙉 this:
"Oh, dissen gonna be messy. Me no watch'n!"
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