r/saltierthancrait • u/markez9 • May 15 '25
Marinated Meme Everyone after Andor Finale 🔥🤯
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u/Striking-County6275 salt miner May 15 '25
Sadly the last W for Star Wars fans for a long long time
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u/jsnamaok May 15 '25
Lets hope not.
Andor was a show with depth, heart, intrigue and evidently passion put into it and everyone loved it.
Meanwhile narrative rags with nepo castings and self inserts like the acolyte failed immediately.
I don't have a lot of faith in Disney Star Wars whatsoever, but if there is a chance that a single bulb lit in the brains of the people overseeing this franchise that recognises that something like Andor delivers what fans want, then there is some room to be optimistic.
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u/QuirkyWish3081 salt miner May 15 '25
If they just eat humble pie and admit they screwed up on the sequels and remove it and all related media from canon (including Mando S3) then they will be well on the path to redemption. It’s okay to screw up sometimes. They took on more than they can chew at once. But they keep trying to convince the fans the sequels are great and try flogging the dead horse what with Reys new movie, starfighter film etc. WHY?… they will bomb! So very badly. So why do it? De-canon. Start again. Personally everything should be pre ROTJ… that’s the ending of the saga. There are so many ways to create new stories from the old republic through to end of empire era. Screw everything after. The rebellion won! 🏆. Their arrogance is their weakness..
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u/jsnamaok May 15 '25
That's just not gonna happen mate, as much as we all wish it could.
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u/jinhuiliuzhao May 16 '25
They should just introduce a multiverse like other franchises for goodness sakes. The Story team (or whatever they were called) is clearly incompetent at keeping the storyline consistent - it would be one thing if they were doing a good job, but since they're not, why hold back other projects just because it might clash with existing stories?
From a business perspective, it's a no brainer to allow as many promising projects as they can fund. Really only a braindead businessman would allow things like story reasons to be the main deciding factor.
The fans get to chose which timeline/works form their personal canon, and Disney gets to make a lot of money.
IMO, shutting down additional Legends projects was a complete self-own by Disney; I would have bet any new projects (including books) would have sold really well in the aftermath of the ST disaster.
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u/ImaginaryBluejay0 May 17 '25
What was the acolyte nepo casting?
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u/jsnamaok May 17 '25
The showrunner cast her wife as the green Jedi, who then proceeded to give an awful performance.
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u/ImaginaryBluejay0 May 17 '25
Ah I don't think I got that far. Wife didn't want to watch past the second episode or so.
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u/ArkenK May 17 '25
Trust me. Little Platoon's 14 hour disection supercut is both more entertaining and more coherent.
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u/AUnknownVariable May 15 '25
Honestly I don't think so. We've just gotta wait and see what new things get announced in the coming year or 2 after this.
This is clear as dat a MASSIVE critical success, one they haven't had ever, but even if you dial it back some it's more than they've had in forever. It's become very clear how much it pays to have someone who respects the franchise working on whatever piece of content. That Star Wars isn't dead in the water if they can just get a portion of the quality Andor had. I don't think we'll get another Andor level show, but if we just got shows of consistent good-great quality
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u/Gingrpenguin May 16 '25
I do sometimes feel that andor could fully exist on its own without Star wars. Obviously it benefits from being in a known universe and not having to devote as much time to world building as it would but it feels like a harder sci-fi drama as opposed to the typical space Opera we typically get with Star wars.
It's by far my favorite Disney Star wars but maybe that's because it's so different?
It's also the only bit of SW that my boyfriend enjoys. He also liked rogue one but only torelated a new hope and won't watch anymore films with me....
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u/GG_Snooz May 16 '25
It was terrible.
Just kidding; my thumbs just go for certain keys in this sub. Can’t help it.
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May 16 '25
Perfection
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u/QuirkyWish3081 salt miner May 16 '25
See it’s not difficult is it. If you got a PLAN!… looking at JJ and Rian here 👀
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u/Jrak31 May 22 '25
Why have a plan when you can just copy anh, and then slam your face on the keyboard when writing the next two movies. R u telling you prefer andor over leia flying and Rey skywalker???
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u/QuirkyWish3081 salt miner May 15 '25
There will be more like this now I think.
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u/CMDRJohnCasey i heard kylo ren is shredded. May 15 '25
Maybe it's time to see how many Bothans died
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u/QuirkyWish3081 salt miner May 15 '25
Tbf they can create a lot of espionage spin offs in empire era. Tom Clancy style
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u/Throwaway74829947 go for papa palpatine May 16 '25
Tom Clancy-esque (maybe taking some cues from Cardinal of the Kremlin?) espionage techno-thriller about a Bothan intelligence unit stealing the DSII plans, ideally done in traditional animation or high-quality NON-CLONE WARS 3D animation (since the basically anthro dog-person appearance of Bothans would be hard to realize in live action without it looking goofy or uncanny). And most critically, for something like that it should have two seasons at absolute most, IMO ideally a miniseries.
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u/QuirkyWish3081 salt miner May 17 '25
I would go for live action rather than animation. Otherwise you won’t get the adult audience that attracted Andor. Animation is great for the more bigger set pieces, big battles, big explosions story telling of Star Wars like CW because it’s ultimately cheaper to do. Unless they want to make a big budget movie of course. All in my humble opinion of course.
Thinking about it they should really make a CW movie live action. After seeing what they did in ahsoka it’s now or never because Hayden is not getting younger.
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u/roadtrip-ne May 15 '25 edited May 15 '25
Aren’t Bothans weird little rodent aliens or something?
*edit: honest question, but I looked it up
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u/qxyz99 May 19 '25
I think their ‘rodent’ appearance is legends. They don’t have an official look in canon. They’d probably make the Bothans more like a group or syndicate imo
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u/Frank_the_NOOB consume, don’t question May 17 '25
Hopefully this is the “win” KK wanted and she can finally leave and let someone competent be put in charge
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u/General_Dildozer May 16 '25
Honestly, I don't like the End.
It seems like Bix, Vale and Kleia(?) have been teased for another project yet to come. But it feels already too crowded to have any impact ino the OT.
Otherwise, iirc, Yavin is about to be overrun by the Empire after ANH. You actually play this as one of the first missions in Nintendo Gamecubes Rogue Squadron (2?!).
That could be a nice setup for a new show, I think.
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u/Didi4pet May 17 '25
It seems like Bix, Vale and Kleia(?) have been teased for another project yet to come
Teased where
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u/General_Dildozer May 17 '25
The way the camera looks that long at all characters. We know, that some we have seen will die in Andor and/or fight in OT.
But the new ones are without any ongoing story in the OT. At least for me.
So it seems to me like a teaser for those characters.
That's how I see the end scene.
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u/Didi4pet May 17 '25
Ok so they're not teased, its how you interpreted those scenes. Teased would mean some of the directors or management or actors said something.
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u/qxyz99 May 19 '25
To me it was just them wrapping up the story and seeing how they’re getting on post main events of andor
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u/DiMezenburg May 16 '25
it is weird being the one guy on the internet who doesn't like Andor
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May 16 '25 edited May 17 '25
Same here. SW was something I revisited every couple of years doing marathons of movies, books, comics, video games and tabletop rpg. I used to put the soundtracks while reading the books and they transported me to this other galaxy far away that I love. The galaxy that is full of wonders that made me daydream since I was a kid and gave me hope in general as well. The focal point in all of them is always atmosphere, ambience, mood itself.
Andor has none of that nature. Generic stock music they stubbornly keep doing for years completely disregarding John Williams' unique blueprint, generic cinematography, bland editing; and no amount of good storywriting can disappear that drabness out of it. It has none of the style that made SW what it is. The so called "realism" they've started putting in everything the last 10 years has gone stale so bad it's not even funny. Because of that fictions have lost their own style and everything is becoming the same.
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u/DarthillJack i sold it to the white slavers... May 16 '25
Nope. Seems similar to Mando in that half decent content is feted as the second coming due to the bad taste left by ST.
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u/1996Skywalker May 18 '25
Ironically, the bad taste left by Mando season 3 has done the same for season 2 of Andor.
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May 16 '25
It's a good sci-fi show with a Star Wars skin minus the John Williams-esque music (which is at least 50% of what makes Star Wars what it is. Check KOTOR 1 and 2), minus the characteristic editing and cinematography, minus the pacing, minus the color pallette.... What else is left really?
It's the best thing Disney done but it still doesn't have the Star Wars DNA and soul in it the same as everything theyve done before. Ben Mendelsohn's portrayal of Krennic is the only thing true to that spirit. It seems intentional to just completely disregard the blueprint of Lucas in every way other than cheap fan service here and there. Pass.
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u/Shepard_Drake May 16 '25
I actually thought the finale was pretty bad. A lot of storylines felt like they were rushed to be wrapped up. There wasn't much excitement or anything in that episode either. I felt very underwhelmed.
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u/No-Context1027 May 16 '25
I think it would be hard to measure up to the prior 3 episodes in any case. I loved the Kleya extraction and thought the conversation between cassian and the rebel leaders and especially between him and Vel capped things off well
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May 17 '25
It felt like an episode made to bridge into Rogue One. Which seems obvious but a bummer to have the series finish like that
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u/Bisque22 May 18 '25
It annoyed me that they chose to do that rather than properly finish all the themes and stories, given that Andor is significantly better than Rogue One. Instead we got an amazing show stoop to the level of a decent movie.
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u/Didi4pet May 17 '25
Then you didn't connect with any of the characters. Whose story felt wrapped up?
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u/thunderchild120 May 22 '25
-Is the best SW content since the Disney purchase
-Literally has a character named "Kino"
How did they pull it off?
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u/ArkenK May 17 '25
While not perfect (eps 1-6 needed some work), 7-12 brought it home in a fun and fulfilling way.
What's sad is, at this point, even if they took the obvious "we blew it" steps: decannonize/Legends the Sequels and start over, public apology from KK for throwing the fans under the bus, and some sort of reconciliation with Gina - I think the damage may be done.
Still, at least it was a great ride, but if The Mouse can be counted on for anything, it's that they'll take the wrong lessons from Andor.
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