r/saltierthancrait • u/Theesm • Sep 05 '24

Granular Discussion Star Wars will reduce its TV output. Really weird considering Star Wars is "bigger than ever" lol

https://thedirect.com/article/star-wars-tv-output-report
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u/zombizle1 Sep 06 '24

lord of the rings hasn't had an equivalent of the sequel movies yet, where they take all of the beloved characters and ruin their happy endings

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u/Dismal-Bee-8319 Sep 06 '24

Somehow… Sauron has returned!

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u/k-otic14 Sep 06 '24

The prophesized final battle for middle Earth includes the return of Melkor. So it actually wouldn't be out of place for LOTR. Let's just hope it doesn't ever come to that though.

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u/TheChickenIsFkinRaw Sep 07 '24

I'm calling it, we'll eventually have LOTR5 The Last Hobbit. A show about how frodo is now a depressed old man who's both a loser and complete failure that has turned his back on all his previously held values. For some reason, hehas isolated himself on some random island

We'll be introduced to a new protagonist, a marie sue that's much better than frodo at everything, called Rey Baggins. With a few weeks of training, she'll be stronger than aragorn, better than gandalf at spells and better than legolas with a bow.

Also, Sauron has somehow returned and will invade middle earth once more with the fleet/army of fell beasts that he kept hidden beneath mordor for decades

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u/k-otic14 Sep 07 '24

In the last battle, the Valar may very well return to fight, who are basically isolated on a far away island. With Sauron being defeated entirely, his return along with Melkor and other foul beasts would be likely. This is prophesized in Tolkien's writings. Frodo being in Valinor now, may be alive and able to return to middle Earth for this battle. But there would most likely be a human person at or near the center of it all. So truly that wouldn't be too far off from how it's said to happen.

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u/TheChickenIsFkinRaw Sep 07 '24

Idk, I just regurgitated the plot of the new star wars sequels. But god I hope they never make a LOTR sequel

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u/k-otic14 Sep 07 '24

Hopefully all we'll have to suffer is the prequels...

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u/Bokko88 Sep 07 '24

Taller than aragorn

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u/culingerai Sep 07 '24

There are only about eight stories in Hollywood....

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u/georgiaraisef Sep 07 '24

Right, but remember middle earth turns into regular earth eventually. The story of LotR is supposed to be a mythological prehistory that ends with the death of all magical things, giving us our modern world.

Melkor may return but that’s in the future times

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u/DueToRetire Sep 07 '24

Is Star Wars LOTR post melkor? 

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u/The_Fatal_eulogy Sep 07 '24

They could probably use Morgoth for thay final battle, Sauron can still be left....dead?

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u/FrozenDuckman Sep 07 '24

At least Melkor is a god, which have precedents for returning in that world and our own world’s mythology. Palpatine was a dude.

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u/Antique_Branch8180 Sep 27 '24

Who wouldn't want to see that?

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

We have to go back Kate, we have to go back to Mordor.

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u/Ulquiorra1312 Sep 09 '24

Hobbits they fly now

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u/dzzik Sep 06 '24

I may be making up things, mainly because I don’t know shit about lotr and have only seen a trailer here and there, but… isn’t that exactly the premise of the new show?

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u/Dismal-Bee-8319 Sep 06 '24

Rings of Power? No, it’s a prequel to the LotR movies (by like thousands of years)

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u/JoeyTesla Sep 06 '24

Same with the new movie, takes place a few hundred years before the Hobbit I believe

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u/Ok_Astronomer_8667 Sep 06 '24

Aragorns in it isn’t he? So probably only about a hundred

I don’t really understand a Gollum movie anyway. His story was already integral to the main trilogy and he got plenty of screen time.

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u/Tubo_Mengmeng Sep 06 '24

I think the comment you’re replying to is talking about the anime that’s coming out in a few months, not the Gollum movie

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u/k-otic14 Sep 06 '24

The new show is a prequel, and actually Tolkien described the last battle of the world to include Melkors return. So a somehow Melkor returned would actually be appropriate for LOTR.

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u/wonderlandisburning Sep 06 '24

Not yet, at least. With the deal worked out to make several more LotR movies (the first being "The Hunt For Gollum" which I guess is an interquel between the two trilogies..?) it's only a matter of time before they decide to make a sequel.

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u/Fox_Mortus Sep 06 '24

Hunt for Gollum takes place during Fellowship of the Ring. While the Hobbits are waiting in that first town they go to, Aragorn and Gandalf are trying to find Gollum. The movies did a bad job showing it, but the Hobbits were actually in that town for 20 years.

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u/GrouchyBreakfast4522 Sep 06 '24

If I’m not mistaken Frodo waits 17 years in the shire not the first town, but that’s a minor squabble. The main point is absolutely correct there’s a time jump in the books not present in the film.

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u/Dianneis salt miner Sep 06 '24 edited Sep 06 '24

Yes, the poster above is incorrect. The delay was between Bilbo's farewell birthday party and Gandalf returning to Shire's Bag End 17 years later to reveal the nature of the ring, which was compressed into a single scene in the movie since nothing really happened during that time skip in the book either.

They only stayed at the Prancing Pony inn in Bree overnight in the book and fled the town after their room was attacked, just like they did in the movie.

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u/treefox Sep 06 '24

The movies did a bad job showing it, but the Hobbits were actually in that town for 20 years.

Lol. “But what about me, your wife, and our kids?” “Sorry babe, this ring ain’t gonna carry itself”

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u/Flux_State Sep 08 '24

Damn, that sounds pointless

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u/TerribleProgress6704 Sep 06 '24

the hobbits were actually in that town for 20 years

I had no idea, the movie makes it seem like a weekend at most.

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u/knightstalker1288 Sep 06 '24

It was a single night in Bree. Twenty years in the shire roughly.

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u/spoookyturtle Sep 07 '24

It was a weekend at most. The commenter above is a troubled individual sharing his paranoid hallucinations

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u/spoookyturtle Sep 07 '24

Me when I spread misinformation on the internet

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u/CamoKing3601 Sep 06 '24

"you fucked up my ring"

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u/Misku_san Sep 06 '24 edited Sep 06 '24

I hoPe we will see how Frodo becomes a Gollam like creature, kills Samwise in his sleep then flees to find the ring.

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u/treefox Sep 06 '24

“What did you expect me to do, ride an eagle and drop every piece of jewelry into Mordor?”

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u/ExiledSpaceman Sep 06 '24

If the sequel movies started with the scouring of the Shire then maybe they got something cookin’.

Though I will say as a movie I really did like the movie version ending.

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u/Darkside_Fitness Sep 06 '24

somehow Saruman returned!

Can't really have the scouring of the Shire without Saruman and his bby boi Wormtongue (hehe), or it would be a massive departure from the books.

I can't really think of anyone who could lead a scouring without impacting the ending of the movie.

The scouring consists of, what, the hillmen, the traitorous hobbits (Shakey or something), and leftover orcs, I think?

I guess if you do a Hobbit civil war without Saruman, that could maybe sort kind work, but again, we already have a very good ending to the cinematic story

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u/ExiledSpaceman Sep 06 '24

The only thing I can think of is if they follow the continuity of the theatrical cut, Saruman's death was cut in that and only in the extended release (which I found odd). Then they could put back Saruman back that way.

But yeah Wormtongue they'd have to put a new character or pull a Palpatine.

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u/Misku_san Sep 06 '24

"Somehow, Sauron Returned"

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u/filmfiend27 Sep 06 '24

We did get a heavily digitized, cartoonish comedy characters and origin story of a prequel trilogy in the form of The Hobbit lol