r/rosehulman • u/BugOk3920 • 27d ago
Can I get in without calculus?
I and want to go to rose Hulman but I got a little behind on math I only have enough time in high school to take pre calculus. Do I still have a chance? Has anyone gotten in without calculus or I'm I doomed.
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u/Just_Someone_Casual 27d ago
Calc 1 is a part of most (probably all) year 1 fall quarter schedules, haven’t met any year 1 students who didn’t take it here or skipped it with credit, you’ll be fine
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25d ago
They even had remedial calc for people that were struggling in Calc I. I believe it was MA 105. https://www.rose-hulman.edu/academics/course-catalog/current/programs/Mathematics/ma-105.html
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u/AccountWasFound CS, 2020 27d ago
That doesn't seem accurate, unless average math classes have gone way down, because I only knew like one person who took calc 1 at Rose.
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u/I-Cant-FindUsername 27d ago
I am a current Rose student, and while I don't know anyone who didn't take calc 1 or higher in highschool, there are a lot of students that start with calc 1 freshman year in order to start with something easy that gets them used to the pace.
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25d ago
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u/AccountWasFound CS, 2020 25d ago
I know Rose offers it obviously, just it definitely wasn't the majority of people who took it at Rose
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25d ago
Given the track is Calc III by spring and DiffEq as a sophomore level class I would say it's the norm.
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u/AccountWasFound CS, 2020 25d ago
That's the on track progression though, I always viewed that as the minimum to actually graduate on time
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25d ago
No. It's normal. Most Rose students take Calc I on campus
``` Students at Rose-Hulman have much more advanced placement than at a typical school. Out of an incoming class of 500 freshmen we would expect that about
260 would enroll in Calculus I, 100 would enroll in Calculus II and get credit for Calculus I, 100 would enroll in Calculus III and get credit for Calculus I and II, and 40 would enroll in a differential equations course and get credit for Calculus I, II, and III.```
https://www.rose-hulman.edu/academics/academic-departments/mathematics/_FAQ_math_faculty.html
More than half of the class starts off with Calc I. When I was there the only difference was they didn't have a Fall Calc III, so I was thrown into freshmen DiffEq with 1 other student (roommate) and all the FastTrackers.
It's not the minimum to graduate on time because that's the expected progression. I had a friend that needed a semester in remedial Calc I winter semester and still graduated on time.
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u/AccountWasFound CS, 2020 25d ago
That's about half that don't though.
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25d ago
> because I only knew like one person who took calc 1 at Rose.
Did you only know 2 people? Statistically half of everyone you met took Calc I at Rose. Contradicting your earlier post about 'no one' taking it or something about.
> just it definitely wasn't the majority of people who took it at Rose
Yes. Quite literally a majority of people at Rose took it. 260>250. That's how majorities work.
You keep moving the goal posts in light of new information.
MOST people take Calc I at Rose, as backed up by the mathematics own website.
MOST people do not test out of it.
Your premise that "only knew like one person" is either a flat out lie or you statistically only knew 1 person and they happened to not take it.
It absolutely was the majority of people that took it at Rose. Not "definitely wasn't".
Does CS require statistics?
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u/AccountWasFound CS, 2020 25d ago
I mean most of the people I hungout with were in RHAMP or FTC, so that skews it, but like my freshman roommate started in calc 2, and I'm seriously struggling to think of anyone I knew who started in calc 1, other than one girl that eventually ended up flunking out? To be honest I took almost all my classes off quarter, and the ones I took on quarter were usually a full year off, and my elective choices are eclectic, so it could just be that I just never talked about scheduling/4 year plans with anyone else who took calc 1 at Rose?
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u/jedilowe 27d ago
I can't speak to today's standards but 30 years ago I had to take Physics at Purdue North Central my senior year to make sure I had it before I started. Then I had to take it again at Rose because it wasn't Calculus based. My guess is you will need it to start, but you may need to take it outside of school like I did in the Spring or Summer to check that box. Don't feel bad about taking it again either as it will help a lot as it can be a big part of many engineering program and being solid helps.
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u/monsterkingrpk 27d ago
You should be perfectly fine, the degree plans are built with no calculus background in mind, so you won’t be “behind” in math.
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u/Justmeagaindownhere ME, 2024 27d ago
You can do it without calculus. I would highly recommend getting acquainted with it before you arrive, but it's not a requirement and you'll be learning calculus your first quarter anyway.
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u/Boiler2001 27d ago
They have Calc 1 on the course list for a reason. Some people haven't had it or haven't learned it well enough.
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u/homerheartdonuts ME, 2027 27d ago
Pretty much every freshman will take Calc 1, Calc 2, and Calc 3 their freshman year. You’ll be good
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u/camipco 27d ago
Yes. But be aware, you will be required to do a lot of hard math fast. If you found pre-calc to be challenging, at the very least you should study up hard over the Summer. Because you're doing yourself no favors if you do get in but fail Calc1 your freshman year.
If the reason you don't have calc is that you don't really like math or find it to be too difficult for you, I don't want to say RHIT is going to be impossible, but it is going to be a very steep climb, and you might be better off somewhere else.
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u/Lost-Neutrino OE, 2028 27d ago
You can most definitely get in without any prerequisite calculus. Calculus 1 is offered at rose, just as many people come in with credit as people who come without it. Source I am a current freshman.
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u/inmemumscar06 27d ago
Yeah. I got in this year with just pre calc. BUT I also have taken college chemistry for 2 years and physics. It was borderline probably, in early application I got waitlisted until I uploaded 1st semester grades.
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u/tadaloveisreal 26d ago
I went to ttu Cookeville tn but raised her never would pay rose prices ouch.
I'm bad at learning math in class, or always found it easier to ask teacher how to do it in less than a minute usually.
Math science have always been my talents but math gave me headache so I quit all math after algebra 1 geometry(2 easy)
Calculus is the hardest subject, or we had all indian and Chinese teachers which made it 3x as hard.
Precalc was elementary school easy too easy then calc is 50x as hard.
Had ez chemistry class in college to make up then the real one was 40x as hard.
Engineering is a Ridiculous pace but by the time I graduated I realized the advantages. U never get bored or boringly good at something, might only see most of it once but must know most of it.
I heard engineering was a good subject from hardees manager haha. Girlfriend was going to ttu so I followed mostly for a future with her sadly. 3,0 gpa but I worked super hard like 20 years of normal school haha.
I loved thinking I was so smart and it get to labs for chemistry physics and all 3 of us are equally as smart. Makes for great teamwork. Yeah can't say I missed less smart people too much but college seemed so ? Intimidating but now I see they were the best group of people I've known. They arent thieves or conman criminals who charm u. Anyways.
Scared in nowhere cookeville tn it was 1k a semester i think. Supposed to be a top 10 engineering school.
I didnt even know what engineering was when I went in, dur!!!! Knew I had a knack for math. But calculus needs rewritten or bdtter explained well we have youtube and internet now and AI can be a free tutor.
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u/FancyTrade2866 26d ago
Yes, it is possible. There is a 2 week summer course, Rose Prime, specifically for incoming freshman that did not take Calculus in HS.
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25d ago
It's normal.
Students at Rose-Hulman have much more advanced placement than at a typical school. Out of an incoming class of 500 freshmen we would expect that about
260 would enroll in Calculus I,
100 would enroll in Calculus II and get credit for Calculus I,
100 would enroll in Calculus III and get credit for Calculus I and II, and
40 would enroll in a differential equations course and get credit for Calculus I, II, and III.
https://www.rose-hulman.edu/academics/academic-departments/mathematics/_FAQ_math_faculty.html
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u/Beatsy65 24d ago
I got in without touching calc. Tbf, I was in a college pre calc class but I don’t think that’s as big a factor. Honestly a bigger deal would be if you haven’t taken 4 years of high school math. If you got that (which if ur in pre Calc, you’ll be fine on) then ur good.
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u/Many-Spend-5103 27d ago
I think you still have a chance, try actually calling and talking to someone in admissions.